I recently bought a Magic from someone in my flying club and crashed it the first time we brought it up. The vertical stab seperated on approach and the plane nosedived onto the field. I repaired the plane but just had a couple of questions. Is there any other landing gear that would work? The landing gear took a beating and is bent up pretty bad. This is my second plane. My first was a Tower Trainer 40 kit that I've been flying for about 2 months now with no incidents. The guy I bought it from has been using a OS 46Fx up front and I was wondering if an OS 46LA would be good to put in it since this is only my second plane?

Do a search in RCU for "Magic 3 D"...Lots of info there....

Dubro plastic gear will work and it's nearly indestructible, but it's kinda heavy.

Seems like the Magic should come with pre-mangled gear; thay all end up that way!!!

Larry

I don't understand why ModelTech can't make better landing gear for the Magic's. The Magic that I bought/crashed/repaired was put together very poorly. It was originally bought as an ARF. When I tore the covering off the wing I found some joints that weren't even glued together. I was very disapointed in the ARF quality. The trainer that I built was a kit and I think I am going to stick with kits.

You should understand that the magic really is just a fun fly plane, not your average Sunday flier. This plane just like some of the new 3d aerobatic planes are suppose to landed at a snails pace. some people actually land them vertically by going into a hover and then transition into a slow harrier until the tail touches and then they let go of the power.
But i do understand that people buy these things and fly them at full throttle the whole flight and then try to land at what seems like half throttle.
Hovering and 3D= Magic
Speed and full on snaps= Something Extra

Hi,

I am doing a test on the Magic Fun-Fly for a Magazine at the moment and I was supplied with a carbon U/C from Carbon Copy in the UK (see http://www.carboncopyuk.com) It is as light as the metal version in the ARTF kit and is way stronger. Take a look.

My friend trashed his Magic gear, so I got carbon fiber sets for both of us., Do a search for MOOSE CARBON FIBER here on RCU. The gear was great and only about eighteen bucks.

-Cheech

The 46LA would be fine. I use a 12.25x3.75 APC prop with this engine on my Magic and it is plenty for flying and hovering with some to spare.

The 46LA is several onces lighter that the FX so watch your CG if the plane was balanced with an FX.

As for the gear, I pulled mine off last week due to the snow. All it needs is full throttle and a gentle toss

Know that's what i'm talking about. Forget that landing thing , float it in for nice and easy landing at your feet.

I decided to pull all the electronics out of my trainer and put it all in the Magic so that I can take it up. I'm not going to wait around for my new flight pack to come in before I take the 'ole "Harry" out for a spin. I decided this the other day because I got bored with my trainer. I'm goin' to put all the new stuff in the trainer "just in case". The plane was balanced w/ and FX but I was planning on redoin' the CG anyway becuase I don't think I have all the guts in the same place as the owner before.

That fuse is pretty narrow, so moving the CG might take some doin'...

The LA should be fine on a Magic...

Do you have a computer radio? If so, once you get use to it you can play with Flaperons, this plane is very difficult to crash (when conventional flying.. ) and might be a good chance to try flaps!

Either way let us know how it works out,
james

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Your missing the point of why we use the APC 12.25 x 3.75 prop on fun fly planes. It may not allow the .40 size engines like the .46 LA to reach there optimum power band for speed, but for hovering and 3d maneuvers it's the most prop you can get away with. You want massive air flow over your control surfaces (which gives you much better control at very slow air speeds) and great pull out torque. If you were to compare this props static pull on the ground with that of the 10 x 6 screaming at 14000 rpm, you would notice the 12" prop pulls way more even at that slower 11000 rpm .
Try it on that magic and you will never go back, just ignore the sound of the slower spinning engine.

Also the 12.25 x 3.75 is a wide blade prop compared to the 12 x 4. Even more air..............

Right on about the 12.25x3.75

I tried several props (not the 12x4) on the 46LA and the 12.25 works great.

My .46FX (with tower muffler) hated the 12.25 but loved the 11.5x4 APC, much more thrust eventhough it is smaller. The smaller prop on the FX reved up significantly higher than the 12.25 inch prop, the increase in rpm more than offset the smaller diameter.

Bottom line is you just have to experiment and find the right prop for your engine and style of flying.

Inorris:

You're right the LA is spinning around 11K and making only .6hp but the thrust is greater eventhough I'm off of the power curve. Go figure

How much power does it take to hover the magic with a La .40 Half throttle? more or less? Did you use mini servo's? and what percent nitro do you use? Thanks, Ricky

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I know that I am not missing the point. I am in agreement with lnorris . The highly touted 12.25x3.75W APC was NOT the best prop on my .46. It put out good thrust but it took a month of Sundays to wind up. I want a good mix of instant power and hight thrust.

I went back to the 11x5. If anyone wants my 12.25x3.75W APC PayPal me the money to mail it to you and it's yours.

-Cheech

I don't have a 40, but my Magic hovers around 2/3 throttle with the .46LA on 10% nitro. I have all standard servos in the plane.

It does not take a month of Sundays to wind up with the 12.25x3.75 prop, only three weeks of Sundays

All the other props I tried 11x4, 11x5, 11.5x4 spooled faster but took very near full throttle to hold a hover with nothing to spare

Geoharry- Thanks for the info. I am currently flying a magic w/ a .46 Fx which is a great combo w/ a APC 11.5 X 4, But I bought my son a magic and was thinking about powering it w/ a .40 La since we already have one, If it has enough power to pull it out of a hover!


Cheech- You have to try an APC 11.5X4 on your .46FX. It is the only prop to run for TR's and hovering and a mac's exhaust.. Ricky

I'm going to try to fly the repaired magic tomorrow. I'm also goin' to try out the flaperons and I'll let you know how that turns out. Tried to fly today but there was gale force winds at the field so better that I didn't.

All of your Magics wear combat boots

My magic flew for the first time last week-end. It is powered by a little old GMS 32 turning an 11 X 3 prop. I have GWS Mighty Micro Servos that put out 75 oz in @ 4.8V and weigh under 1 oz for the tail surface. BB converted S148's in the wing (dang big holee cutouts). Lastly an old S33 for the throttle. I also bolted on the wing and used AAA NiMh battery. Even with the 8 oz sullivan glow tank I installed, it weighs in at 3 lb 12 oz. Runs for well over 30 minutes.

Also went Kevlar pull-pull for extra light weight.

Can you say unlimited vertical at less than half throttle

What a blast to fly

gi guys i use to have a magic and if you want to see me flying it just go to www.ytinternational.co.uk and click on the magic then click picture's im the one in the red jumper.

i have now give away my magic to another block at my club and ive now got a cougar 2000 with a OS 46 FX and that flys gorgous if you want to see more info on my cougar then just click on my site www.freestyleuk.20m.com

Thanks guys hope you enjoy and if you go on www.freestyleuk.20m.com then can you sign my guess book

thanks alot

Dean
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Ok, didn't fly the magic because I busted the left servo rail when I put the servo in. That is the side of the wing that I had to totally rebuild. I guess I didn't do a good job putting in the replacement servo rail but I'll get it right this time. I guess I'll just keep flying the trainer until my new flight pack comes in. CAN'T WAIT TO FLY THE MAGIC!!!!