.50 size Scale Aerobatic (and 3D) planes?
09-17-2007 | 05:27 AM
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.50 size Scale Aerobatic (and 3D) planes?
Hey guys
I'm wanting to expand my fleet a bit; I'm getting rid of a bunch of planes I rarely fly and going to mainly scale(ish) aerobatic and 3D planes. I've looked into a LOT of aircraft, but I very rarely get to fly anything before I buy it so I'd like to get your takes on a few of them. I'm mainly looking for something I could get good result with using a .46FX to .55AX 2-stroke, or Saito .72 and .91 4-strokes.
Here's a list I've compiled of planes I'm looking at currently:
Phoenix Sukhoi SU-31
Phoenix Giles 202
Phoenix Extra 300
Nitroplanes Extra 260
Nitroplanes Zlin Z-50
Nitroplanes Yak-54
Nitroplanes Edge 540
Nitroplanes Extra 330L
The Phoenix planes seem to be geared more toward pattern-style aerobatics, due to the smaller control surfaces, though they're probably capable of some basic 3D (if my 4-Star can hover, I'm sure these can).
The Nitromodels planes generally have huge control surfaces and are lighter weight, which really appeals to me. Problem is, there are very few if any reviews of the Nitromodels aircraft in the reviews section.
Nitromodels has great prices and from what I've heard about some of their other planes, they seem to have decent construction (and lousy instruction). All in all they seem to be a good deal. Phoenix also seems to be pretty decent all around.
Do any of you have experience with any of these planes?
AND BEFORE REPLYING!!
Please stay on topic. Don't tell me that I need bigger planes/profile planes/expensive brands/etc. These will have a very specific purpose in my hangar, mostly due to transportation issues. I like small planes and I like .46 to .55 size engines. So PLEASE don't stray away from topic.
Also, am I missing any good-quality inexpensive ARFs from other manufacturers? I'm looking for only scale or sport scale planes, no profiles, no pseudo-scale (Funtana) types, or anything of that nature.
Thanks for any help!
I'm wanting to expand my fleet a bit; I'm getting rid of a bunch of planes I rarely fly and going to mainly scale(ish) aerobatic and 3D planes. I've looked into a LOT of aircraft, but I very rarely get to fly anything before I buy it so I'd like to get your takes on a few of them. I'm mainly looking for something I could get good result with using a .46FX to .55AX 2-stroke, or Saito .72 and .91 4-strokes.
Here's a list I've compiled of planes I'm looking at currently:
Phoenix Sukhoi SU-31
Phoenix Giles 202
Phoenix Extra 300
Nitroplanes Extra 260
Nitroplanes Zlin Z-50
Nitroplanes Yak-54
Nitroplanes Edge 540
Nitroplanes Extra 330L
The Phoenix planes seem to be geared more toward pattern-style aerobatics, due to the smaller control surfaces, though they're probably capable of some basic 3D (if my 4-Star can hover, I'm sure these can).
The Nitromodels planes generally have huge control surfaces and are lighter weight, which really appeals to me. Problem is, there are very few if any reviews of the Nitromodels aircraft in the reviews section.
Nitromodels has great prices and from what I've heard about some of their other planes, they seem to have decent construction (and lousy instruction). All in all they seem to be a good deal. Phoenix also seems to be pretty decent all around.
Do any of you have experience with any of these planes?
AND BEFORE REPLYING!!
Please stay on topic. Don't tell me that I need bigger planes/profile planes/expensive brands/etc. These will have a very specific purpose in my hangar, mostly due to transportation issues. I like small planes and I like .46 to .55 size engines. So PLEASE don't stray away from topic.
Also, am I missing any good-quality inexpensive ARFs from other manufacturers? I'm looking for only scale or sport scale planes, no profiles, no pseudo-scale (Funtana) types, or anything of that nature.
Thanks for any help!
09-17-2007 | 06:15 AM
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RE: .50 size Scale Aerobatic (and 3D) planes?
For 40/50 sized aerobatics nothing beats the Fliton Extra ... its superb. I hear the Edge is also good. You got plug in 2 piece wing which is great for transportation. Its more costly that the Phoenix etc but you will not regret it.
09-17-2007 | 08:03 AM
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RE: .50 size Scale Aerobatic (and 3D) planes?
I have the Fliton Edge 540 Freestyle. I have the Saito 100 on it. It has WAY more than enough power. A Saito 91 would be the perfect fit for it, seeing as how it weighs like 6lbs. It has a carbon fiber wing-tube, two piece wing and airfoiled control surfaces. It's an amazing aircraft. A pain to build, but a beauty to fly. It's hard to build because it has so many different options. Honestly, knife edge flight requires nearly zero coupling and it stalls straight ahead. It also glides like a trainer and has crazy good control throws, but still flies nearly perfectly at any attitude. Really not many flaws. Even a 3D newb like me was able to do rolling harriers for a couple seconds. It's amazing--doing both 3D and precision superbly. You won't be disappointed if you go the Fliton route, really.
Several friends had the Phoenix Planes, and they are really good quality for the price. They're pretty good precision, and the Extra flew nicely. One friend had the Nitromodels Yak, and it was cheap-quality wood and stuff(cardboard wing-tube holder and thin cowling) but flew quite nicely.
Several friends had the Phoenix Planes, and they are really good quality for the price. They're pretty good precision, and the Extra flew nicely. One friend had the Nitromodels Yak, and it was cheap-quality wood and stuff(cardboard wing-tube holder and thin cowling) but flew quite nicely.
09-17-2007 | 02:39 PM
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RE: .50 size Scale Aerobatic (and 3D) planes?
MadMonkey,
Here's Best Flying Plane For OS.46FX Engine Bare ANY!!!! http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXEDP0&P=ML Phoenix Fun Star. I Have one built and used Tower Super Savers $30 Off Discount to get 2 more. Made 2 Seperate Orders. I also have Showtime 50, X-50 Funtana I just lost, Pulse XT and Fliton Extra 330 Freestyle. All Fly with Engine Size You want use. The Fun Star's after $30 Off Tower Super Savers Club E-mail Discount was ONLY $69.99 Or 1/2 to 1/3 Price of other Birds Yet SUPER QUALITY. Below is Tower Hobby Offer I used.
Order today and save $30.00. Place at least a $199 order and for a limited time we'll take $30.00 off the total. All you have to do to claim your savings is click on ad number 011M2 and it will be placed in your shopping cart. This special offer is not retroactive. Please, only one promotional ad number per order.
Since you are a member in good standing of the #1 Super Saver Club, you'll save even more. Order $199 or more and you could enjoy the $30.00 off as well as receive free standard shipping and handling, normally $8.99. Your total member savings for a $199 minimum purchase would be $38.99. Order today and save.
Fun Star Fast and Easier by far to Build and All Ailerons, Rudder and Elevator Come Fully Installed. See My Review I did for R/c Universe of this Bird. I Used Dubros 3D Control Horns, and some other upgrade components to make this into My Funnest to Fly Bird. Need Add Neon Tape for Visability. I put 3 " Light Foam Tires since one Clubs Runway is Field Grass and larger Rear Tires really help. I belong 2 Flying Clubs. FunStar is a really Great 3D and all around Fun Bird to fly. with allittle wind I can almost do Hover LANDING. I use a APC 11 X 5 or APC 11 X 6 Prop on My OS 46FX engine and it seems give it "Unlimited Vertical" Maybe even a APC 11 x 4 sometimes??? I just love Tweaking this Bird to see just How Much it Really is capable of doing. With a Skilled Pilot it seems do All Tricks Our Club Members are Doing With Their Big Gas 23% to 40% Size Birds they have $3,000 to $9,000 in. Even with all My digital servos, reciever etc I have maybe tad over or under $400 Total in this Bird COMPLETE. I Use JR & Hitec with 7 Channel Scan Select Reciever in All My Birds. It's a AMAZING Little Bird You Can Carry in any vehicle But it is Light and Delicate. I Carry Mine on Rake like one in Photo either in Back My 4 X4 or on Work Bench My Trailer. Now Its Bird I always Grab 1st To Fly richgrow If Have any question you Can E-mail Me [email protected] or [email protected]
Here's Best Flying Plane For OS.46FX Engine Bare ANY!!!! http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXEDP0&P=ML Phoenix Fun Star. I Have one built and used Tower Super Savers $30 Off Discount to get 2 more. Made 2 Seperate Orders. I also have Showtime 50, X-50 Funtana I just lost, Pulse XT and Fliton Extra 330 Freestyle. All Fly with Engine Size You want use. The Fun Star's after $30 Off Tower Super Savers Club E-mail Discount was ONLY $69.99 Or 1/2 to 1/3 Price of other Birds Yet SUPER QUALITY. Below is Tower Hobby Offer I used.
Order today and save $30.00. Place at least a $199 order and for a limited time we'll take $30.00 off the total. All you have to do to claim your savings is click on ad number 011M2 and it will be placed in your shopping cart. This special offer is not retroactive. Please, only one promotional ad number per order.
Since you are a member in good standing of the #1 Super Saver Club, you'll save even more. Order $199 or more and you could enjoy the $30.00 off as well as receive free standard shipping and handling, normally $8.99. Your total member savings for a $199 minimum purchase would be $38.99. Order today and save.
Fun Star Fast and Easier by far to Build and All Ailerons, Rudder and Elevator Come Fully Installed. See My Review I did for R/c Universe of this Bird. I Used Dubros 3D Control Horns, and some other upgrade components to make this into My Funnest to Fly Bird. Need Add Neon Tape for Visability. I put 3 " Light Foam Tires since one Clubs Runway is Field Grass and larger Rear Tires really help. I belong 2 Flying Clubs. FunStar is a really Great 3D and all around Fun Bird to fly. with allittle wind I can almost do Hover LANDING. I use a APC 11 X 5 or APC 11 X 6 Prop on My OS 46FX engine and it seems give it "Unlimited Vertical" Maybe even a APC 11 x 4 sometimes??? I just love Tweaking this Bird to see just How Much it Really is capable of doing. With a Skilled Pilot it seems do All Tricks Our Club Members are Doing With Their Big Gas 23% to 40% Size Birds they have $3,000 to $9,000 in. Even with all My digital servos, reciever etc I have maybe tad over or under $400 Total in this Bird COMPLETE. I Use JR & Hitec with 7 Channel Scan Select Reciever in All My Birds. It's a AMAZING Little Bird You Can Carry in any vehicle But it is Light and Delicate. I Carry Mine on Rake like one in Photo either in Back My 4 X4 or on Work Bench My Trailer. Now Its Bird I always Grab 1st To Fly richgrow If Have any question you Can E-mail Me [email protected] or [email protected]
. Just saying....
09-17-2007 | 10:07 PM
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RE: .50 size Scale Aerobatic (and 3D) planes?
ORIGINAL: richgrow
MadMonkey,
Here's Best Flying Plane For OS.46FX Engine Bare ANY!!!! http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXEDP0&P=ML Phoenix Fun Star. I Have one built and used Tower Super Savers $30 Off Discount to get 2 more. Made 2 Seperate Orders. I also have Showtime 50, X-50 Funtana I just lost, Pulse XT and Fliton Extra 330 Freestyle. All Fly with Engine Size You want use. The Fun Star's after $30 Off Tower Super Savers Club E-mail Discount was ONLY $69.99 Or 1/2 to 1/3 Price of other Birds Yet SUPER QUALITY. Below is Tower Hobby Offer I used.
Order today and save $30.00. Place at least a $199 order and for a limited time we'll take $30.00 off the total. All you have to do to claim your savings is click on ad number 011M2 and it will be placed in your shopping cart. This special offer is not retroactive. Please, only one promotional ad number per order.
Since you are a member in good standing of the #1 Super Saver Club, you'll save even more. Order $199 or more and you could enjoy the $30.00 off as well as receive free standard shipping and handling, normally $8.99. Your total member savings for a $199 minimum purchase would be $38.99. Order today and save.
Fun Star Fast and Easier by far to Build and All Ailerons, Rudder and Elevator Come Fully Installed. See My Review I did for R/c Universe of this Bird. I Used Dubros 3D Control Horns, and some other upgrade components to make this into My Funnest to Fly Bird. Need Add Neon Tape for Visability. I put 3 " Light Foam Tires since one Clubs Runway is Field Grass and larger Rear Tires really help. I belong 2 Flying Clubs. FunStar is a really Great 3D and all around Fun Bird to fly. with allittle wind I can almost do Hover LANDING. I use a APC 11 X 5 or APC 11 X 6 Prop on My OS 46FX engine and it seems give it "Unlimited Vertical" Maybe even a APC 11 x 4 sometimes??? I just love Tweaking this Bird to see just How Much it Really is capable of doing. With a Skilled Pilot it seems do All Tricks Our Club Members are Doing With Their Big Gas 23% to 40% Size Birds they have $3,000 to $9,000 in. Even with all My digital servos, reciever etc I have maybe tad over or under $400 Total in this Bird COMPLETE. I Use JR & Hitec with 7 Channel Scan Select Reciever in All My Birds. It's a AMAZING Little Bird You Can Carry in any vehicle But it is Light and Delicate. I Carry Mine on Rake like one in Photo either in Back My 4 X4 or on Work Bench My Trailer. Now Its Bird I always Grab 1st To Fly richgrow If Have any question you Can E-mail Me [email protected] or [email protected]
MadMonkey,
Here's Best Flying Plane For OS.46FX Engine Bare ANY!!!! http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXEDP0&P=ML Phoenix Fun Star. I Have one built and used Tower Super Savers $30 Off Discount to get 2 more. Made 2 Seperate Orders. I also have Showtime 50, X-50 Funtana I just lost, Pulse XT and Fliton Extra 330 Freestyle. All Fly with Engine Size You want use. The Fun Star's after $30 Off Tower Super Savers Club E-mail Discount was ONLY $69.99 Or 1/2 to 1/3 Price of other Birds Yet SUPER QUALITY. Below is Tower Hobby Offer I used.
Order today and save $30.00. Place at least a $199 order and for a limited time we'll take $30.00 off the total. All you have to do to claim your savings is click on ad number 011M2 and it will be placed in your shopping cart. This special offer is not retroactive. Please, only one promotional ad number per order.
Since you are a member in good standing of the #1 Super Saver Club, you'll save even more. Order $199 or more and you could enjoy the $30.00 off as well as receive free standard shipping and handling, normally $8.99. Your total member savings for a $199 minimum purchase would be $38.99. Order today and save.
Fun Star Fast and Easier by far to Build and All Ailerons, Rudder and Elevator Come Fully Installed. See My Review I did for R/c Universe of this Bird. I Used Dubros 3D Control Horns, and some other upgrade components to make this into My Funnest to Fly Bird. Need Add Neon Tape for Visability. I put 3 " Light Foam Tires since one Clubs Runway is Field Grass and larger Rear Tires really help. I belong 2 Flying Clubs. FunStar is a really Great 3D and all around Fun Bird to fly. with allittle wind I can almost do Hover LANDING. I use a APC 11 X 5 or APC 11 X 6 Prop on My OS 46FX engine and it seems give it "Unlimited Vertical" Maybe even a APC 11 x 4 sometimes??? I just love Tweaking this Bird to see just How Much it Really is capable of doing. With a Skilled Pilot it seems do All Tricks Our Club Members are Doing With Their Big Gas 23% to 40% Size Birds they have $3,000 to $9,000 in. Even with all My digital servos, reciever etc I have maybe tad over or under $400 Total in this Bird COMPLETE. I Use JR & Hitec with 7 Channel Scan Select Reciever in All My Birds. It's a AMAZING Little Bird You Can Carry in any vehicle But it is Light and Delicate. I Carry Mine on Rake like one in Photo either in Back My 4 X4 or on Work Bench My Trailer. Now Its Bird I always Grab 1st To Fly richgrow If Have any question you Can E-mail Me [email protected] or [email protected]
Anybody know about the Nitromodels Edge? It's supposed to be VERY lightweight...
09-18-2007 | 11:24 AM
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RE: .50 size Scale Aerobatic (and 3D) planes?
Beware the nitro planes Yak-54. They carry two different planes. The fiberglass CMP Yak-54 is a tank. Good scale plane but not a 3D at all. The wood plane is not really to scale, it's fragile but it will 3D pretty well. I think the wood one is better... although I still have a CMP. They are really tough planes but you're going to need some major power to make it fly well. I have a ST 61 in mine and wish I had a 90. The wood one a 61 is plenty.
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I agree. I just got the Nitromodels Extra 260 this weekend. It was a little tough to build, but ive decided its all worth it now that it's done. Great looking model.
