RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

Do you have and probs skidding your rudder with longer mains. I made my own rear set up, and I think if I go up on the mains Id have to up the rear as well to keep it from touching. Or maybe I have my rear skid alot lower than the rest. Either way this is an awesome flying little plane, put another 5 flights on it today. Mine tracks like an arrow very impressed. Also did fairly well in the wind. I think I might have to try one of his others planes as well.

RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

I bent up a new tailskid as well. The stock skid is 2mm and very soft wire and the one I installed is made of .055 piano wire and is about 3/4" taller.

RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

For the people having trouble getting the plane to take off.

The plane sits on the gear with almost no angle of attack so your only solutions are
1) hand launch (no fun IMO)
2) extend the stock gear
3) use flaps

I click on the flaps, take off, click them off. Simple.

With only 10 deg of flaps the plane can take off in a couple of feet if you want.

RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

Looking at this tongue muffer, it could easily be made from one of the Du Bro exhaust extensions. You would just need to solder a piece of sheet aluminum to one end, and cut it to the desired length. Then drill and tap, eliminating the hose clamp. A few holes in one side, and you're done.

I might have to try one...

For take off, I'll try flapperons a few times. If it doesn't work, then I'm trying the main gear extensoins.

RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

I use flaperons for take off too. full extension makes it takeoff at a crawl. and besides this way you can get elev to flap mixing.

RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

I just let the plane build some air speed and pull back on the elevator (on 3d rates). It goes vertical, so you have to be ready for it, but it gets in the air - no problem.

RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

9" legs for main gear solve positive wing incedence for take-off.


Anyone interested in one of these? Highest bidder.........


They are old SEMCO line of exhaust mufflers.

RE: RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

Can't wait to start assembling mine tomorrow. Out of town right now, but does someone have a list of how many and what length servo extensions are needed for the Mini 3D?

I know they recommend cutting off the engine mounting rails for engines over .20... I'll be using an OS 25LA and I wonder if adding some carbon fiber strips to the mounting rails might help? Might be a lighter setup than going with a Dave Brown type of mount?

Thanks for your help in advance.

RE: RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

You'll need 4 extensions. I used 12" for each of mine.
I also am using a .25LA and used the existing mount. I just had to open up the space were the motor sits in very slightly.

RE: RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

It depends on where you'll locate your receiver and battery. With a .25LA you might want to consider making a belly hatch to locate them, like a number of us have done (this is different than the instructions, as if you could interpret them anyway :D). It's extremely easy to do and there are lots of ideas above. If not, you'll need 24" extensions for the rudder and elevator to reach out of the nose of the plane.

On mine I have five extensions. Three 12", one 6", and one Y-harness. The "Y" is needed because I have a 5 channel receiver, and I wanted to keep my ailerons on their own channel for future, potential flaperon use. It's extended off the 6" extension to the front and takes the throttle servo and becomes one half of my battery "switch" (mine is according to plans...just two leads hanging out).

I'm just using the stock mounting setup for the engine and I feel it's plenty strong. Others have swapped that out.

Good luck,
Chuck

RE: RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

I finally put mine on the bench and just about have it finished. I too used the 25LA and kept the original mount and installed a tail wheel. I still have to pick up my servos, am planning on HS81MG's or HS85MG's and a HS55 for the throttle.

Of course, the problem I have now is it just keeps snowing around here....... I have finished 4 planes so far this winter and can not go fly[:@]

I had planned to go out to the frozen lake since there was no snow, just ice.....and of course now we are getting snow and it just keeps coming.

Oh well, guess I will have a busy spring doing maidens.....:)

Bill

RE: RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

I have two 12 inchers and two six inchers. I shaved the stock mount to fit the 25LA, it took very little work to get it to fit. I also put a very light tail wheel on it. I used 81 on everything but one 85MG on the elevator. My rudder may yet get an 85MG.

Im also in WI, and under some snow. I'll hit the lake when it gets above 10 or 15 degrees and the snow stops. 4 to 8 inches predicted tonight into tomorrow am. If it's not cold as heck, it's windy and snowing.

Where are you vanman? I'm in the Fox Valley.

c/f- That looks just like my muffler, only mine isn't that long. Mine is almost square.

RE: RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

Tailtwister,

I am in Racine, yep calling for even more snow tonight here too. Don't mean to sound like I don't know where anything is but I am not familiar with where the fox valley is.....

I have just one mod left to do to this thing and that is to bend up some longer landing gear to get a little more ground incidence to it. With tail wheel installed it sits pretty darn flat.

I can not wait to get the maiden on this thing!!!!!!!

Bill

RE: RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

I thnik I might have to break down and put a tiny wheel on mine. I have already wor my tailskid out.

RE: RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

I took a small control rod and bent one up, then epoxied it into the rudder.

It was faster than making a trip to the hobby shop since I already had a tail wheel laying around:D

It makes a big difference so I am told by others that have already put a tail wheel on.

RE: RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

I am assembling mine curently.
-slightly warped fuse (but it cross the atlantic twice after all)
- controls horns screws missing (not a dramatic issue)

I will go with a .15CVA, HS81 like on the video, I will install the stock landing gear because I will always hand launch it, this plane is for exclusive usage in the back of my garden were the grass is hig , so no normal take off possible either with modified gear

That's a great quality product (for the price) in my opinion

RE: RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

The Fox Valley is centered around Appleton, WI. I live just south of Appleton, in Menasha. My club here is Valley Aero Modelers, and we fly in Black Creek, which is about 30 minutes north of here. I live about 2 minutes away from Waverly Beach, which is on the north shore of Lake Winnebago. We fly there, on occasion, once it's frozen. You have to be careful, because Waverly Beach is a huge snowmobile area, and non-resistor plugs throw lots of RF into the air. My Zagi almost bit the dust last year as a snowmobile raced by.

I also hate to sound uninformed, but I'd have to look at a map to find Racine. I've heard of it, but have no clue where it is.

For my tail, I added a second piece of wire to help with strength, and used a small foam wheel that came with a Fundango that I had a couple of years ago. The second wire is mounted to the fuselage, just ahead of the rudder, and I used a piece of nyrod to buffer it.

RE: RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

for my tail I went with the stock wire held in place with a very small piece of fiberglass

I think that the cdrom provide will win the price of the most nimble assembly instruction ever made:D

RE: RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

Tailtwister,

Racine is 20 miles south of Milwaukee.

Glad you said something about the snowmobiles, never thought of that. I will be careful if I go to the lake since there are always snowmobiles and 4 wheelers around.

Like I said earlier, I have a place up north of Green Bay, so maybe I'll get up that way this spring and fly.....

Here is my tailwheel..........

RE: RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

The warped fuse is forgivable and very easy to straighten out.
I ended up replacing all of my control horn screws with some slightly longer ones because I could barely get them all the way through.

If you go with the .15CVA...make sure you keep the plane very light. If you end up much over 2lbs you won't have much vertical. You might also want to consider using a metal gear servo in the rudder. I haven't yet, but that thing gets an awful lot of ground contact due to the short, forward tail gear and low, lengthy rudder. Maybe that won't be as much of an issue if you hand launch, but harrier landings will have some contact. If you're just plopping into some tall grass it might not matter. I've only got 18 flights on mine, but the bottom back of the rudder is getting pretty scraped up and I'm going to end up putting an HS-85MG there.

Speaking of hand launching...take some videos of you doing it :D. I haven't had the guts to do it by myself yet, since it's kind of hard to grab and gets very gooey and slippery after a flight or two.

RE: RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

:D Here is a cheap solution, glue some sandpaper on each side of the fuse were you hold the bird for hand launch. The plane won't slip anymore, but I admit that in case of abuse your fingers could be "sanded to shape":D

By the way thanks for your coments, I'll keep it light

RE: RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

Heres a taboo question...... Anyone dorked one of these onto the ground yet. Kinda curious to how they will hold up. Every time I start my OS 25 I keep thinking about the skinny motor mount rails and those little servo screws, but she holds up like a champ so far, and well be sweet once I get a tail wheel on. I let a guy at the field fly her yesterday, and I think he's sold and about 3 other guys watchin to.

RE: RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

I would not run a .15. It's strong w/ 30% heli fuel, but lacks vertical authority. Seeing the Mini video w/ the .25 FX, that's the way I would go. It also sounds like people are having success w/ the .25 LA.

RE: RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

I thought the videos were with a .15?

RE: RE: Mini 3D from Extreme Flight anyone get it yet ?
 

The video on the web site is with the .15 OS CVA. Wayne G. posted another video on http://www.mw3d.com/ that shows the mini w/ a .25 FX. Both will get the job done, but my .15 CVA setup is not that strong in the hover. It hovers at 65% and the pullout is a little weak. Don't get me wrong, it'll 3d all over the place w/ the .15. I just wish it had more power in the hover.

I'm probably going to upgrade to the .25 FX.