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Breakstuff5050 06-10-2005 11:30 PM

RE: 3D simulators?
 
g3 autimatically haas wind, turbulence and thermals set like average weather (5 to 10mph wind) but you can easily turn it off

sonicboom 06-11-2005 05:40 AM

RE: 3D simulators?
 
I have both Refelx XTR and Aeroflypro Delux. I was an AFD convert but now Im switching to XTR. The graphics are much better, the physics are comparable, AFP have the edge by a whisker in physics, but XTR has an awsome hover facility and feels more like a natural stance when flying.

50%plane 06-11-2005 06:15 AM

RE: 3D simulators?
 
Thanks for all the info AFTER I ordered it.

50%plane 06-15-2005 05:19 AM

RE: 3D simulators?
 
The big brown truck came and left me a christmas package.:D

50%plane 06-15-2005 11:41 AM

RE: 3D simulators?
 
After about two hours on G3 I have noticed that my flying skills have increased a lot. I (with no heli experience before) han fly a basic heli pretty well( keep control, corect mistackes, flip it upside down[Dominion 90]). My fixed wing flying has also improved a lot. The only problem that I have is with the Yak. It is so reallistic that the 3W motor cots off every time I try to fly it.















Just kdding about the yak. It isn't that realistic.:D

Breakstuff5050 06-15-2005 12:10 PM

RE: 3D simulators?
 

woops

After about two hours on G3 I have noticed that my flying skills have increased a lot. I (with no heli experience before) han fly a basic heli pretty well( keep control, corect mistackes, flip it upside down[Dominion 90]). My fixed wing flying has also improved a lot. The only problem that I have is with the Yak. It is so reallistic that the 3W motor cots off every time I try to fly it.
Remember you can download physic models that fly a hole lot more better then stock!!!!





Here is how I think of all the big name sims...

FMS is awesome for basic flying, takeoffs, landings...a beginner sim

Reflex is best for 3D training but can only take you so far...a good second trainer after FMS

AFPD is best for learning all the 3D moves easily and fast...does everything but just a little easier

G3 is here to peak out your skills and to get your skills top notch and once you master G3, you are past ready for real life!


Too bad we cant talk the producers of AFPD and g3 into combining for that ULTIMATE sim, that would be sweet!















50%plane 06-15-2005 02:42 PM

RE: 3D simulators?
 

Too bad we cant talk the producers of AFPD and g3 into combining for that ULTIMATE sim, that would be sweet!
I agree there.:D

STG 06-15-2005 03:01 PM

RE: 3D simulators?
 


ORIGINAL: Breakstuff5050


woops

After about two hours on G3 I have noticed that my flying skills have increased a lot. I (with no heli experience before) han fly a basic heli pretty well( keep control, corect mistackes, flip it upside down[Dominion 90]). My fixed wing flying has also improved a lot. The only problem that I have is with the Yak. It is so reallistic that the 3W motor cots off every time I try to fly it.
Remember you can download physic models that fly a hole lot more better then stock!!!!

Here is how I think of all the big name sims...

FMS is awesome for basic flying, takeoffs, landings...a beginner sim

Reflex is best for 3D training but can only take you so far...a good second trainer after FMS

AFPD is best for learning all the 3D moves easily and fast...does everything but just a little easier

G3 is here to peak out your skills and to get your skills top notch and once you master G3, you are past ready for real life!


Too bad we cant talk the producers of AFPD and g3 into combining for that ULTIMATE sim, that would be sweet!

I would sure like to try G3, but from what I understand it is possible to make the planes fly easy like most of the default planes in AFPD.

Also, I know that in AFPD it is easy to add weight to a plane and crank up the sim speed and add turbulence to make it a handful -- especially when you are using the right plane.

So why do you need both when they can be made to do similar things?




Breakstuff5050 06-15-2005 04:18 PM

RE: 3D simulators?
 
You can modify g3 to act like delux, but it will NEVER be the same, likewise with delux planes, there ups and downs to each sim, like it would be very hard to make delux snap on radiuses like g3, and we cant make g3 as floaty as delux but still have the same harrier physics, torque roll speed...etc, i think the biggest thing keeping all this from happening is the control surface efficiency, they are all different. Reflex actually has a setting where you can control the efficincy of the surfaces, but i still couldnt get it to do rolling harriers good, but the TR physics are pretty good if you turn up the rudder efficiency. I wish I could better explain my thoughts.

drumbum 06-15-2005 04:31 PM

RE: 3D simulators?
 
one thing i hated about AFP is after you converted the weights and prop sizes etc. over to english.. none of the measurements and weights werent even close to real world. a 40 size motor would have like a 16 in prop on it for example

Breakstuff5050 06-15-2005 06:05 PM

RE: 3D simulators?
 
I wish I could throw a 16 in. prop on my .46[X(]

STG 06-15-2005 06:12 PM

RE: 3D simulators?
 

ORIGINAL: drumbum
one thing i hated about AFP is after you converted the weights and prop sizes etc. over to english.. none of the measurements and weights werent even close to real world. a 40 size motor would have like a 16 in prop on it for example
I agree. That is one thing I liked about G2. I also miss being able to scale the plane up and down--and with that flight dynamics changed. Still like AFPD with all the planes included and it does a great job for me--would like to try G3 though. --Most of the time I fly my planes with added weight at 130-160%.

STG 06-15-2005 06:16 PM

RE: 3D simulators?
 


ORIGINAL: Breakstuff5050

You can modify g3 to act like delux, but it will NEVER be the same, likewise with delux planes, there ups and downs to each sim, like it would be very hard to make delux snap on radiuses like g3, and we cant make g3 as floaty as delux but still have the same harrier physics, torque roll speed...etc, i think the biggest thing keeping all this from happening is the control surface efficiency, they are all different. Reflex actually has a setting where you can control the efficincy of the surfaces, but i still couldnt get it to do rolling harriers good, but the TR physics are pretty good if you turn up the rudder efficiency. I wish I could better explain my thoughts.


Thanks for the explanation. I do understand a little better.

Breakstuff5050 06-15-2005 07:54 PM

RE: 3D simulators?
 
thats just how i think though, I have never tried delux, but i dont see how it would ever mimic G3. The one thing i regret about g3 is it needs photorealistic scenery, I loved reflexs scenerys and you knew where you were at most of the time, but with g3 all you have an option for is 3D scenery. If i remember correctly g2 had photo scenery but it sucked.

50%plane 06-20-2005 07:13 PM

RE: 3D simulators?
 
Does anyone know how to take some of the expo out of the G3 planes? Can it be done?

Breakstuff5050 06-20-2005 07:49 PM

RE: 3D simulators?
 
i do it to all my usual planes. just go to software radio-click the channel you want expo in-there is where you set it, but make sure it is activated always, you can do that by clicking the expand button next to the channel and click expotential, then make sure it is set as always. It's easy once you get the hang of it. Good Luck!

EXTRA ADDICT 06-20-2005 08:19 PM

RE: 3D simulators?
 
Nice job on the Yak 54 with the counterbalances Breakstuff it flies great!:D

Breakstuff5050 06-20-2005 08:26 PM

RE: 3D simulators?
 
thank you, i wasnt sure if it flew much different from regular surfaces, bc in my head i hope it does make a difference!

EXTRA ADDICT 06-20-2005 08:42 PM

RE: 3D simulators?
 
It seemed to be more stable to me. I don't know what else you might have changed on the plane but it is not as snappy even on a downline. Plus it looks more like the real thing.Now if somene will just do an Extreme Flight color scheme I will be happy!:D

drumbum 06-20-2005 08:46 PM

RE: 3D simulators?
 
AKA Rick Delten.. im sure he would do it.. i know he can do it[8D]

Breakstuff5050 06-20-2005 08:57 PM

RE: 3D simulators?
 
After flying it for an hr or so it feels a tad bit floaty, easily fixed by adding a pound or so. I cant think of anything else to do to a plane that would make it better, any suggestions? I need a challenge! I know the editing software like the back of my hand, well, kinda...yall know know what i mean!

EXTRA ADDICT 06-20-2005 09:00 PM

RE: 3D simulators?
 
You could always do up an Extra 330. :D

drumbum 06-20-2005 09:06 PM

RE: 3D simulators?
 

ORIGINAL: Breakstuff5050

After flying it for an hr or so it feels a tad bit floaty, easily fixed by adding a pound or so. I cant think of anything else to do to a plane that would make it better, any suggestions? I need a challenge! I know the editing software like the back of my hand, well, kinda...yall know know what i mean!
i dont know which side of my hand i know best[:-]

Breakstuff5050 06-20-2005 09:06 PM

RE: 3D simulators?
 
well, the only thing i can do there is change little things, it wouldnt make a big difference in characteristics, but i can give it a shot, just give me the wing span, length, fuse width and height etc, as much as you can find, even wing cord and weight. You help me help you!!!![sm=lol.gif]i like that phrase

Breakstuff5050 06-20-2005 09:10 PM

RE: 3D simulators?
 


ORIGINAL: drumbum


ORIGINAL: Breakstuff5050

After flying it for an hr or so it feels a tad bit floaty, easily fixed by adding a pound or so. I cant think of anything else to do to a plane that would make it better, any suggestions? I need a challenge! I know the editing software like the back of my hand, well, kinda...yall know know what i mean!
i dont know which side of my hand i know best[:-]
that phrase actually dont make sense, i mean, i dont know the back of my hand that well, maybe it should go like this "I know the editing software like QQ knows a yak", now that makes more sense, what do yall think?


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