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Is this with the engine off or running or both. Does it get worse with the engine running?

Start disconnecting the servos from the receiver one at a time to see if the problem goes away. Finding a glitch is no picnic and the best way is a very methodical approve to it.

If you are using the JR Sport receiver that would be the first place I would look. The JR Sport stuff is not the best thing for a model of this size and bigger digital servos. The JR Sport anything do not hold up well in larger models as they are built for low vibration, everyday sport flying. I used the 125MG servos in a Showtime wit a YS110 and within 10 flights they got really sloppy and would no longer find center really well. I've seen the 6 channel JR Sport receiver start glitching within 25 flights on a Mini-Funtana

I'm not trying to pick on anyone but you must remember that when you start getting into planes of this size, especially gas powered or very large glow power, you need to start using higher quality stuff.

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:)blockbuster...

I have G3 but I only fly the Yak. I honestly don't really fly the simulator that much. It helps, but it bores me to tears. I attributed much of my hovering problems with the CAP to needing upthrust. It pulls pretty bad to the wheels on uplines, hovers, etc. This winter I added two washers of upthrust but haven't flown the plane yet. I expect to next week. I'm hoping it helps a bit.

But hey...this plane is so much fun to fly and has so many good attributes that I really don't care if it hovers all that good. It does the best waterfalls I've ever seen. I love doing waterfalls. It also does the easiest KE of any plane I have (the Velox is close). I have to use about 5% mix of up elevator to rudder but then it is perfect. I bring this plane to within 5 feet of the ground all the time. I love the way it flys. It's one of those planes that's just fun to fly. If I want to hover I'll go to the AirWild. But I hope the up thrust will help the hover and not hurt the other things.

Bubbagates (I think) was telling me that with the coupling to the wheels, when you are trying to hover you have to give it up elevator to get it to hover. Then when you back off the throttle, the plane tends to flip on it's back. More throttle and you pull to the wheels again. Those are my symptons. And also, even though I'm making 20lbs thrust, I have a hard time with pull out because I have to use so much up elevator to keep it vertical that it causes extra resistance.

Anyways, that's the theory, and I'm sticking to it.

Thanks
Barry

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Bubbagates, It only gliches when the engine is running. Is it possible that the 4.8 1500 ma battery just can't handle the 5 digital servo load. I was thinking of going to a 6v and even possibly including the EDR-111 POW'R BUS . I agree 100% with you as far as getting quality stuff, working on it :) ........I also just completed the GP Giant Stick with a Fuji32b, both Fuji's (43EI, 32B) start with only a few flip as long as they're wet and run like champs, I love this gas stuff..........

I have an eye on the new JR 7202 for my CAP, anyone flying the Cap with this radio?

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anyone have a problem with the firewll not being glued in, I did, only the bottom left was glued, pulled out the entire fire wall and pulled back the landing gear.
NOT HAPPY, first flight

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If it's only doing it with the engine running then I'd be looking at the throttle connection, remember, no metal to metal naywhere, bad connection on an extension. RF is very hard to figure out and you must take a systematic approach to finding it.

That battery is more than enough unless it has a problem like a weak cell. Load test it for 5 minutes

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Not at all but then I pin all my firewalls, even if I use a large glow engine like the OS160, so I will discover it before I fly it

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Bubbagates, I did take the ball bearing out of the choke in order to use a servo on it when I first completed the Cap. It does (the butterfly) have a very slight up and down jiggle and I've flown it a few time that way....maybe I just got lucky...till now? Did you set your Fuji with a maunual choke or servo? If w/servo how did you deal with the choke having the ball bearing? I tried with the ball bearing and just could not get the angle to have the servo flip it. I do tape my aileron servos connection to the Y harness connection every time I fly, one connector seems a little too easy when I pull them apart, a new one is on order along with a 6v battery.

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I drilled a tiny little hole in the cowl right at the carb and used a piece of old 2-56 rod to manually open and close the choke by pushinh on the butterfly. Worked like a charm. I do the same thing on all side mounted carbs and you can barely see the hole in the cowl

You should not remove anything on the carb. You will get so much slop in the choke eventually that it will not longer close all the way. If you use a type of kill switch be it optical or other then you do not need the choke servo. If you do not have any type of kill then I would use the choke servo as a second way to kill the engine in the air.

In my eyes, having a second way to kill the engine is important but should the engine mount come loose and jam the throttle it could also jam the choke so that's why I use the Smart-Fly optical kill. It's a safety issue with me.

If you were not getting Rf for several flights then all of a sudden you start getting it then something came lose, broke or otherwise went bad. I would be more concerned about the on/off switches than the battery but 6v will give you a bit more servo power but it will use up the battery a bit quicker.

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Did you connect the 256 rod to the choke arm permanently or used it to push or pull thru the hole then removed it for flight? After I removed the ball bearing I had a second thoughts but it worked....diding think of it wearing out, Y'up lesson learned. I'm going to tear through the Cap and see if I find anything loose or broke. Once again thanks for your help!

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It is just a piece of rod that is in my flight box that I just poke through the hole to set the choke and turn it off

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Brendon: Mine also, contacted product support and they told me they had NEVER had anything like that happen since this plane has been out. I sent in the front part of the plane and firewall part. Everything, firewall, engine, landing gear all collasped on my third landing one Feb. 27. (Grass field) They told me 90 day warranty. It was bought for me as a Xmas present but was not able to test fly it because of the Ice storm here in Springfield, Mo. So what I am telling you is, how can one test fly a plane in the midwest during the winter months even though it was ordered on Nov. 22, 1006 and the warranty is 7 days over the 90 day warranty period? Have not heard anything since I sent it in. I marked several places where there was NO glue at all. I also read somewhere on RCUNIVERSE that someone else had the firewall come loose also.

I talk to a very nice lady at product support but she was not the one that sent me the e-mail telling me nothing like that had ever happen to the plane since it had been out.
Has anyone else had this problem?????
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I don't mean 1006, I am sure you realize it was 2006 when ordered.
Bob

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Bob,

I did not have mine just fall off but I did have a very smooth off field landing into high grass that promptly removed the front of the plane at the first former and when I took a close look there was very little glue in some places an no glue in others. I took pics and sent them in after talking to a service manager and they promptly sent me a whole new plane. But then that was well within the warranty period at the beginng of spring last year. So in a way, they have seen this before

I agree that trying to do a maiden in the winter months is not the easiest thing to do and maybe with some very nice and pleasant conversation (AKA kissing a little butt) you may just end up with a new one

RE: GP Cap 232
 

Sorry, words "extra hard" might be missleading, well harder that you migh do so on other planes, in this case. What I mean is quick minor "Up elevator" gimbal blip just enough to pop tail under, and not to hold it as an airbrake. And if you doing a TR and the plane popes out of it, in this case quick rudder imput is very effective way to bring that plane back to strait position again. As for the uplines even in a sim plane pulls towards the weels and it should since CAP carring its wing under its belly. Plane have to track strait, by adding an upthrust you might alter the way your CAP perfomes KE, but on the other hand I'm not discurage you to try things aroud, bottom line adding washers is not that complicated and you should try it.

Now the sim. I have almost all Add-Ons where most of the major aerobatic platforms are represented: Edge 540, Extra 330L and Yaks. For the exeption of Giles 202 I think it covers pretty much all. Since I got Expantion pack #1 for G3, I became a CAPadict. Almost a year pass since I got it and I'm finding myself that 98% of the time I fly CAP 580 on the sim. And by the way I do not recalling to spend myself so much time on the sim before when I had Yaks, Edge and Extra(however it is sometimes amusing to go back to these planes and compare the way they all fly), as I do now with a CAP, eight to ten hours on the weekend easy! The best $30 I spend on the sims.

Barry, good luck. I wish it helps!

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Went flying today with the cap. Good weather no wind. just a relly nice day been a while since we had one.
Anyways got some nice pics so I just had to post them. Hope you guys like.

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What engine and prop do you use?
Do you have any other pics?

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Awesome pics, kwboost, any vid:D?

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saito 180 mezjlik 18x6.
I will work on a video. As soon as i do it will be here. Thanks guys.

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Ok, I broke down and ordered a DA 50 for this bird. Your right Lou, better to have some extra power to get you out of the "tight" spots. Should be a blast! Thanks for talking me into it Bubba :D:D

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Uh Oh, now his wife is gonna blame me for him spending 600 dollars on an engine....:D

You won't regret it one little bit. Also if this is a brand new DA50 then use a 22x8 prop and after 5 or 6 gallons on Lawnboy ashless at 32:1 then switch to the 23x8 and a good synthetic oil at 50:1 or above.

I would recommend the 22x8 PT model props that TBM sells and they seem to be a perfect match for the DA50/Cap combo and fairly quiet to boot. Yep, they are 50 bucks but again, well worth it. I tried both the Vess 22A and 22B and the plane did not seem to like it, the engine did not care though. Go figure, my Brison 3.2 loved the 22B on my Ultimate but hated the PT model 22X8

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[quote]ORIGINAL: bubbagates

Uh Oh, now his wife is gonna blame me for him spending 600 dollars on an engine....:D




No worries Bubba. Divorced the wife a year and a half ago:D But my girlfriend loves these RC planes[sm=thumbup.gif]

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It is if you get into as many tight spots as I do!
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Hey Bubba!!! I think I may have just found the ultimate site for batteries. Check this out!! http://www.all-battery.com/index.asp...S&Category=179

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Got the DA 50 today...Thats one big engine!

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Wait until you see you first DA150 or any if the #w engines or 200cc especially the twin cylinder 324cc that Bill Hempel has on his 75lb Edge 540

Better still, wait until you fire that DA50 up and then get it tuned and do your first flight. You'll look like this

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