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That's good to hear that the line trick did it for you. It never failed me.

The reason I have not been on here much is I actually have mine all apart. The DA50 has gone into the Ultimate, I bought the 33% Cap580 that is just waiting for the DA100 to show up and I found a great deal on a Carden 40% Cap232.

Now, don't get me wrong. I absolutely love the GP Cap232 and truly had a blast with it and ius a great lunch time plane as I could have it RTF in around 5 minutes, but I've flonw the Carden 40% version with a DA150 on pipes before and all I can say is WOW so this Cap just starting sitting around a bit

Basically I am giving it away at no cost to one of the younger pilots at our field and all he has to do is come and pick it up when he's ready. He has everything he needs for it and actually has flown it with the DA50 but he is going with the OS150 and the same 5985's all around but just needs a bit of help getting into the larger planes.

I'll still be around the thread though as I know this plane very well

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Would that be Whaturi, or do you have a second protege' in the works I haven't seen fly yet???:D:D:D:D:D

BTW Dude!!! Congrats!!! You're gonna love flying this thing!!!!

Al

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No, it's not whaturi, he got my first one when the front popped off when I touched the high grass at the end of the runway because I had to do a downwind deadstick landing. He re-glued the front back in, stuffed in an OS160 and flew the crap out of it.

I just soloed a student that has already had his grubby hands on my Yak and flew it like he'd been flying for years and he is at 20 total flights as of last night and doing things with a H9 Arrow that one would think he should not be able to do at the very early stage. He's gonna be another Alien and Whaturi, Whaturi is giving him a profile Katana tonight, I'm providing the servos and receiver for it. This will get him ready for the Cap. He's 17 and a great person. I got bored training him by the 4th flight. 15 minutes each time holding the darn trainer switch had little indents in my finger. I'd take it from him to give me finger a break

Darn kids anyway;)

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I finally decided on my engine, a Moki 1.80:D. Got it last weekend at the Sin City IMAC from a local flyer with a Bison Pitts muffler. I'm running it with a Menz 19x8. I fired it up yesterday,like sewerdude to my neighbors delight, and ran a tank full through at various rpm's. My buddy did'nt do me wrong, this thing cranks[8D]. I also switched to a 6v 2000 mil NiMH battery pack and the servo's are a lot faster. I tried some of the trim mods I originally thought about but it looked cheesey so I'm back to the stock trim.

The weather has finally settled down. I am maidening my W.M. Extra 300 today and will maiden the Cap this weekend. All thats left is to hook up the pull-pull on the rudder and re-shrink the covering(again). I'm jazzed about both but especially the Cap as it is my first try at this plane. According to my wife it's the prettiest plane I've ever had:). Hope she still thinks so after I bring it home.

Barbie in a bikini has been named the pilot. I'll post some pics and final specs on Friday before the first flight.

BTW Bubba, kudo's to you for your decision on the AW thread. I totally agree.

Wish me luck,
Rod

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I get to maiden my Cap this weekend also, woohoo! Moki 1.80 on a pump, spinning an 18x6W prop and she's a singing! I have high expectations for this plane and expect to spend alot of time fine tuning her, as I hope she teaches me the imac sequences this year.

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Hey I have been watching this thread and decided to get the CAP due to positive things said on this website. I have decided to use a Moki 2.10, due i need to put a perry pump on it or just 1/8th fuel line. Any help would be appreciated.

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Just the 1/8th inch line will be just fine, been there, done that on many OS160's. On large glow engines you should be using 1/8th inch line anyway. My theory is small 26cc gas engines use 1/8th inch lines and they use half the fuel amount that a glow in that size will use, so why not. It's not much more than the standard size and way less complicated than trying to get the perry pumps setup right.

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True, pumps can be a hassle if you have not messed with them much. The reason I chose to pump this plane, is because there is more than 12"s from the carb to the back of the tank, and what that relates to is the engine will start to sag out, and sometimes lean out when you get below half a tank of fuel while pulling high alpha. So, for the 1st half of the flight on a plane like this you can tear it up and do your 3D stuff, but after a half tank you need to be careful. On a pumped engine, or a gas engine, the flight charateristics stay the same from start to finish. I've been there done that on another 25% Cap that had a tank that was mounted far back like this one is.

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And I understand your reasoning and I'm not trying to start an argument here. I've been using the 1/8th inch line on tanks as far back as 12 inches for a long time and on this plane I have witnessed one do it and another that will be doing it not to mention using it on the Gene Soucy Extra myself with the tank about the same distance, the CH CapX and a few others and every time the 1/8th line worked just fine. The key is to use "standard" line on the pressure line back to the tank. 1/8th inch line back to the tank will not give you the pressure you need and it works with either brand of pitts muffler.

Maybe I've just been lucky

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No, I'm sure you're on to something there. I will try that at the next opportunity, thank you.

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Hey Bubba.
Great advice on the fuel line. My only experience on a pump(perry) was with a Saito .91 on a W.M. Chipmunk. The motor had a short header and no nipple for pressure and it was a chore needing constant adjustment. I ran my Moki yesterday with 1/8" line on both feed and pressure and it did great but that was on the ground. I really like the idea of the smaller line for pressure and will change it before maiden this weekend:D. I've built this plane using several of your tips so once again, thanks.

I maidened my W.M. Extra today and it was awesome. See the thread titled "World models Extra 1.60" if you like.
I can't wait for this weekend to maiden the Cap and see how she stacks up.

One quick question for all, I'm running a Menz 19x8 on the Moki 1.80. My tach just took a s@#* and I don't know what the RPM's are.
Any comments on this combo?
Thanks and happy fly'in,
Rod.

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That'll probably be an awesome combo. I've pulled a 20x6 with the Moki 1.8 and it was great, so Im sure the 19x8 will be great also.

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Does he need a transmitter? I'll have an extra 7CAP on the 1st of June.

Al

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Thanks Al, I appreciate it but he just bought a DX7 about an hour ago from the LHS I work at

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Guys, just remember, On the OS160 you have the short line between the needle and the carb and you need to replace that one as well. The 1/8th line will be a loose fit so just use some small wire ties on the nipples and you'll be golden

I'm not sure on the Moki's if the line goes directly to the carb from the tank or it's like the OS with the tank -> needle -> carb

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Moki's are straight to the carb from the tank.

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Well let me know if there's anything I can help with.

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Thanks, did not know that
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Al,

I appreciate the offer. I'll keep you in mind

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Well, I WAS going to maiden today but a serious problem has developed. I started up the Moki a couple of days ago but just to make sure it ran as I bought it used but I didn't really mess with it a lot. It Idled good, was a bit sluggish on transition and what I thought was really fat on top end. No problem I thought, I'll finish the plane and fine tune it later. I used Bubba's suggestion of 1/8 tubing on the feed and standard tubing from the Pitts muffler to pressurize the tank. I have a simple set up with a two line tank running the fill/feed through a Dubro Quik filler. I was very wrong! It's not fat on top end, it's starving for fuel. It starts fine and transitions pretty good but falls flat on top and dies after a couple of seconds and then will not restart without a lot of prime. It actually runs a lot better at 1/2-3/4 stick but the head is really hot. I'm using 5% nitro Wildcat fuel as recomended. It was getting late so I plugged one exaust tube on the muff and tried again, better but still to lean on top. Guess I'll have to break down and pump it. Bad thing with that is it will require a total disassembly of the tank and cutting out the plywood tray that holds the receiver and battery. This will be a BEEOTCH as I really beefed up the plate with 1/4"hardwood square stock apoxied to the sides and then the plate apoxied to them. The tank is in the stock position and endsup about 9" behind the motor but as you all know with this model it ends up well below the carb. NOT looking forward to this!

If anyone has any sugestions on pumps and set up or, even better a fix I can try and not have to go through this It would be really appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Rod

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The 1st thing I would do is get that fueler out of there and retry it. Those inline fueling valves have wreaked serious havoc on alot of planes I have seen. If the valve doesn't pop all the way back out, it will starve the engine just as you say. Please try that 1st before ripping apart anything on the plane.

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Yeah, I thought of that too and I will try it. Man, I hope that is all it takes. If so I'll have it in the air tomorrow.
Thanks for the quick reply, I'll let you know how it shakes out:eek:.
Rod

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hello,

what do you think about brillelli 36 gt on this plane ?

thank's

stephane

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ddDo we ned to change the brass fuel into the fuel tank to 1/8? Where do you get it. my LHS doesnt have it.

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That motor would seriously underpower this plane. a 45cc engine is about perfect for the weight.