RE: GP Cap 232
 

5 3/4 or right on the wing spar. I can't tell you how squirly this thing was with the cg's back. I almost didn't make it back in to land. all you had to do was breathe on the sticks and she would stand at attention.. Great for extreme hovering and walls but not for flying.

So far I've had my share of problems with this bird.. Can't wait until it's stable. As I said before., My gas tank stopper came loose in flight andI went dead stick. Came in hot and the landing gear came thru the wings on both sides and a broken prop. Had to repair that.

After I got around to checking it the gas ate away at all the foam in the fore turtledeck. I just fixed that problem by fiberglassing the inside.I figured since I needed the weight anyway it wouldn't matter.

Then the servos I was using came off another plane. They were mg and had slop around the center. My ailerons were flapping all over the place. I decided to rip them out and get all brand new digitals 350.00 later....

Then I was testing the engine on the safety bench with out the tail secured. It tipped forward and ruined the prop... 20 bucks later...

So .. there is alot to be said for those cheapy 40 size model 2 strokes..


Big planes , big problems

small planes, small problems

But I do so like the big ones!!!

I'll let you all know how I make out at the field this weekend. Hopefully all my glitches will be behind me

Dan

RE: GP Cap 232
 

I put the maiden flights on the Cap today. I did a few tail touches. Only oops was a broke prop (tip hit on first landing) and cracked one wheel pant.

The 5 3/4" CG seems like it might not work for me. I have the ability to get much more control throw but I think moving the CG aft would be better. Flies great with a BME 44. The first prop was a 20x10 which I might return to but the majority of flying was on a 21x8 which seemed great. Only complaint about the 21x8 is a slightly sluggish pullout from a hover.

RE: GP Cap 232
 

Seriously, Save yourself some props and spend the 10 bucks on the gear from the GP 27% Extra. It is stiffer and won't flex as much on landing.

RE: GP Cap 232
 

I actually don't have an issue if I just harrier land. I have like a half dozen flights this way with zero issues. Again I think I am still nose heavy for my liking which would also explain that. I have flown two others setup for 3D and they had no issues.

RE: GP Cap 232
 

Extra gear $10 new prop $20+ , but.. whatever

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Well I got my Cap in working order once again. I had it running in the driveway yesterday and it's purring like a kitten. The balance is now spot on. I Plan on re- maidening it tomorrow.

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Guys,

i may pull the trigger on the Cap 232 soon,

but unfortunately i don't have money for a 50cc gas engine,but only for a 26cc, like the CRRC.

I'm not a 3d guy anyway.

Will the engine fly the Cap?

Prop?

RE: GP Cap 232
 

You don't need a 50cc in this plane. A 40cc will do it fine.

Take a look on hobbycity's website . If you decide on a larger engine they have a turnigy 50cc for cheap. I think a 28cc is a little on the weak side for this plane. After you buy the servo's and radio equipment, investing an additional 100usd is a minimal investment.

Just my 2 cents..

Ready to fly mine today!!! It's packed in the car and ready to go after I get out of work!!! This is one pretty plane.


Dan

RE: GP Cap 232
 

The 26cc will fly the plane, but nothing extra. It will fly like a scale everyday flier. I have a 26CC on an Ultra Stick 1.20 and the plane is a nice casual plane, nothing fancy. It will do loops and rolls but will not head straight up for the clouds. It actually goes so far up and just flat stalls!! LOL

Andy

RE: GP Cap 232
 

IMHO a 40cc is the minimal I would fly this plane with on the gas side. This is #3 I have flown with the other two have 50cc's in them. Mine is sorta a flying test bed and 3d beater. I did a bunch of mods vs. the stock way. I am gonna move my CG back on mine some more and test fly it again.

RE: GP Cap 232
 

I flew mine today. I should have listened to you all and changed that @!$#!@#!@in landing gear before I went out. I came down .. not that hard and the gear spread and broke my new prop. I'm going to replace the gear with some bigger aluminum gear I have , and larger nicer wheels .

On the flying side .. I balanced the Cap at the tips at the wing spar. I flew nicely..Still need to dial it in more to get it where I want it to be.

On the engine side ... I was at the field tonight with Benny Chi He used to have one with a DA-50 in it. Said it was too heavy. He is now building a new one and plans to but a 30cc in it. says it'sall about the weight and plans to use it for 3d.. We'll see how that goes..

RE: GP Cap 232
 

The new DL 30CC is alot stronger than a 26cc and there is also the Syssa , but he is aiming more towards planes like the Funtana , I don't know what the weight is on that one.

Andy

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FWIW TNT has a set of aftermarket landing gear with the exact same dimensions as stock and out of aluminum.

RE: GP Cap 232
 

Do you know the part # of the landing gear? Is it a 2 piece or 1 ?

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http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXTAX4&P=Z

or

http://www.tntlandinggear.com/store/..._List_Gear.htm

scroll down to the GP Cap. You will have to drill they have the same dimensions as the stock gear (rake, width, height) but are of course stiffer.

RE: GP Cap 232
 

The TNT will be stiffer than the GP Extra Gear but anything is better than the stock gear!!!

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extra:

Length: Each leg is aprox 11" (279mm) in length
Width: 1" (25.4mm) at narrowest and 2" (5mm) at the widest point

Cap:

SPECS: Length: 13" (330m)

I saw those but thought they were shorter than original

RE: GP Cap 232
 

Never trust tower specs. The edge, ultimate and cap gear are exactly the same. The extra gear has been beefed up a little but comes out of the same mold and has the exact same dimentions as the other two.

RE: GP Cap 232
 

Ok .. thanks for clearing up that confusion. I decided to buy these instead of retro fitting some other aluminum gear I have for this plane. I'm also going with 4.5 wheels .. This worked great on my H9 edge to keep the prop out of the dirt on those hard landings.

I'm destined to be hucking this thing around .. If it takes me all season..


Fly um like you hate um ,

Later,

Dan

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Its not a bad little bird. Again I went with this cause its cheap and I had a 44cc BME sitting around.

RE: GP Cap 232
 

Hi ! Which prop are you using with BME44 on this cap ?

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So far I have tried an NX 21 x 8 and also a Bambula 20 x 10. I think I was getting a tick over 7k on the NX and about 6,900 rpm on the bambula.

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Ok so I goofed something! I forgot on JR that positive expo softens everything. I had put the first 6-7 flights using -70% expo on high rates and -50% on low!
After I fixed that little programming issue ( I had not flown or programmed a radio for a while) the landing gear thing was a ZERO issue. Even running a 21" prop with my new CG about 6" or so landing is super easy. Seeing as this is the third one I have flown I am of the conclusion you DONT need aftermarket landing gear. In my case the first prop I dinged was caused by SUPER sensitive control rates on my plane.

Anyway I have had zero issues with the DS120's I got from TBM. Thus far great servos. Plane 3D's well but IMHO I think I still could be slightly more tail heavy. I will try to get more flights on it this week to tweak my CG more. I am going to post up my setup for all to see also.

FWIW My new Bambula had arrived so I flew it this weekend along with the NX 21x8 on my BME 44.

BAMBULA 20x10 = 6900 and some change RPM
NX 21x8 = 7k +
Conclusion - prefer the NX 21x8 with the BME 44 on this plane. I do have a Mejzlik to try out but I think for now I will stick with the NX.

RE: GP Cap 232
 

ouch ..The plane must have been a little twitchy with those expo rates.

You like the Bambula? I bought a 18x10 bambula for the zdz40. I haven't tried it yet. I guess if you keep the landing light you wont have a problem with the gear.. I put larger wheels on for starters.. didn't check it outyet

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For now I like the NX over the Bambula but I suppose I could try some other size ranges. I noticed tonight when I was cleaning it up I had some small issues to deal with. Spark plug cap rubbing and such. Not sure if I will get to fly this week or not.