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frankeldan 08-25-2009 11:28 PM

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I'm flying in the morning. Didn't change the gear yet, but put on 4.25 " wheels. I get's it another inch off the ground.

let you know how this next session goes.


Dan

Les Nessman 08-31-2009 03:12 PM

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WOW, guys I finnally got to maiden my Cap. What a rush to fly this plane, big plane, loads of power with the OS 160 and flys straight as an arrow. Its alot diferent than my cub that's for sure. No problems at all for first four flights, engine ran like a dream. Can't wait to get it back in the air.

Les Nessman 09-10-2009 11:32 AM

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I'm flying in the morning. Didn't change the gear yet, but put on 4.25 " wheels. I get's it another inch off the ground. let you know how this next session goes.


Dan, hope your flight went OK, you didn't report and we are wondering if you ran into yourself while landing. ;) How do the 4.25 inch wheels work? are you still using the wheel pants?

frankeldan 09-10-2009 11:46 AM

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ORIGINAL: Les Nessman

I'm flying in the morning. Didn't change the gear yet, but put on 4.25 '' wheels. I get's it another inch off the ground. let you know how this next session goes.


Dan, hope your flight went OK, you didn't report and we are wondering if you ran into yourself while landing. ;) How do the 4.25 inch wheels work? are you still using the wheel pants?


Well .. This is how it went... Not too good as the pics show.

The largers wheels were fine on my first landing but on the 2nd flight I had a bad throttle servo mixed with a loose carb butterfly. I couldn't get her to idle down. My friend gave me a couple clicks of throttle trim in the xmitter program and it went dead stick. I came down and just put her down a little heavy .. not too bad though and it took the whole engine compartment off. Not too strong since the gear is attached to the front engine box with very little support. It's not a hard fix .. I was working on it last night and got it almost all back together. I've replaced the bing carb in the zdz with a Walbro carb..

Les Nessman 09-10-2009 12:45 PM

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Dan, sorry to here about that. Hope your repair job goes good. I was adding a couple washer shimes for up thrust the other day and noticed mine seperating just in front of the landing gear. I added some glass cloth and 30 min epoxy, hope it stays together now. I am running the 160 though and it is alot lighter than some engines. I have the front of mine pinned with 1/8th dowel like everyone says to, but that is not where mine or yours seperated. I sure like flying this plane though, I have about 14 tanks of fuel through mine so far.

frankeldan 09-10-2009 12:52 PM

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I don't want to give up on her yet. I did end up ordering the new landing gear from tower. Should be in next week.

I mentioned earlier that I glassed the upper hood in front of the cowl due to a gas leak. If I hadn't done this I would have had 2x the amount of damage in the hard landing. I should be ready to fly it next week again.. Getting tired of fixing the fleet.. you know the season is coming to an end.

Les Nessman 09-14-2009 09:45 AM

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The weather here has been great here lately for flying, the wind goes down to zero every evening and gives you an hour and a half of perfect flying. The only problem is we are harvesting, and I can only sit in the combine and think about how nice it would be to fly. Hopefully we have a nice long fall, it is the best time for flying. Keep us informed on your flight report. My uplines were still pulling toward the wheels so I added another degree of up-thrust, just waiting for time to try it out.

frankeldan 09-14-2009 10:16 AM

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I didn't get the Cap together for the weekend ..so I brought out the mini fleet to our club picnic yesterday.

Les Nessman 09-14-2009 10:33 AM

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Nice pic's. No shortage of planes to fly for you Dan. What model P-51 is that, I love them planes. I have the hange 9 trainer mustang, but yours is bigger I think.

frankeldan 09-14-2009 10:52 AM

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Yes .. I have quite a few planes ... take a look at my profile here on rcu .. I don't even have them all listed.

The mustang is a H9 60 size. I have a Saito 100 in it and Robart retracts. This was the first time I flew it in a couple seasons. I redid all the links and rebalanced , also put smaller wheels (2.0") on it .. It handled soooooo much better on the ground without tipping over.. which is the main reason I never fly it .. but now the retracts work well and look awesome on takeoff. First flight , I must have had dirt in the line and the engine konked out on me. I brought her in deadstick into the tall grass.. My buddy yells over to me ... pull up the gear , pull up the gear .. So I did and belly landed her safely onto the grass.. and then I was all set to take it up again!


Les Nessman 09-14-2009 11:46 AM

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WOW, you got it bad haven't you. LOL. You got an understanding partner thats for sure :). My cap 232 is special to me because it is my first plane bigger than a 40 size. Not so for, you got every size plane there is man. I am looking forward to here your opinion of the cap compared to say your 30 % edge or your skybolt for doing aerobatics and such.

frankeldan 09-14-2009 12:12 PM

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Understanding partner? My wife thinks I'm nuts and fanatical about any of my hobbies .. Bowling, Guitars.. whatever.. It's just the way...
And that's only 1/4 of my garage!



To be honest .. I like the 60 to 120 class planes. They fly so well and 50% less hassle than the big ones.. I love my Saito 100's and 125's.

The Cap has been off to a bad start, still dialing it in .. I doubt if I would reccomend this plane to others. Too many little things that are a poor design with it.. The landing gear has me ticked. Why in the world would they mount it on the engine box? The engine box is really being held together by 4 light spars, pretty fragile.. I'll post pics to my fix this week. Also the 1 piece wing is HUGE and cumbersome. As to the flying of it .. Too early to tell.
I had the balance perfect but didn't have time to wring it out before my engine quit.

The 33% edge is an awesome plane .. different class since it's got a zdz80 in it. It's a Lanier and the nicest plane I own.

Skybolt YES .. this is a fun plane.. with a saito 100 it will do all the basic manuvers ..Nicest covering job I've seen to date on a plane. no 3d machine though, but very fun never the less.

I have the Reactor Bipe 60 coming this week. That should be an interesting plane for 3d.. love those bipes.


p38mike 09-16-2009 11:19 AM

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Hi guys, only read the last few pages of this post but has an O.S. 160 been discussed for the plane? I have a three year old GP CAP 242 that has over 300 hundred flights on her but she is still in perfect condition (no crashes or bad landing). The plane with the OS 160 comes in at 12 lbs with no extra weight added. Turning a 17x8 APC it hovers and has unlimited vertical. I know gas is more efficient but $200 saved buying an OS 160 also buys a lot of glow fuel!

- Mike

frankeldan 09-16-2009 11:28 AM

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Mike,

I'm sure it has been discussed somewhere .. we just don't have one in ours .. I hear good things about that os 160. when will i ever learn?

300 flights on this bird .. you are the master for sure ..

How does yours balance out with the os160? Mine with the zdz40 is extreamly tail heavy and had to move lots of stuff around to get it to balance.

p38mike 09-16-2009 11:38 AM

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It balances perfectly with everything placed as instructed. The OS 1.60 is a great engine and a bargain! Plenty of power for this airplane. I just put another OS 1.60 in my KMP Bearcat and it flies it with authority (15.2 lbs). I'm saving the DA-50 for my new PAU 30% Edge 540 that I just ordered. IMO a DA-50 is extreme overkill for this model. - Mike

frankeldan 09-16-2009 11:55 AM

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It balances perfectly with everything placed as instructed. The OS 1.60 is a great engine and a bargain! Plenty of power for this airplane. I just put another OS 1.60 in my KMP Bearcat and it flies it with authority (15.2 lbs). I'm saving the DA-50 for my new PAU 30% Edge 540 that I just ordered. IMO a DA-50 is extreme overkill for this model. - Mike

I almost bought a 160 for my giant u can do 3d , but I decided on the Moki 210.. maybe a 160 is in my near future .. Agreed ..a DA50 is overkill. I have a 40cc in mine and it's perfect.

nmking09 09-16-2009 07:46 PM

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DL-50 is roughly the same price as an O.S. 1.60. Mine comes in at 15 on the nose balances a little tail heavy and has enough power to do anything... and more. Somewhere around 500 flights.

frankeldan 09-16-2009 11:27 PM

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Well see.. 50cc and still tail heavy.. It's not only me ...

I'm almost done on the repair on mine. Got the new red extra landing gear today. Looks the same but is a tad taller than the originals.

mm 02-03-2010 07:45 AM

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hello,

mine does 13.2 lbs without fuel an os 200 FS in it, that's a beautiful and great airplane. I 've about 80 flights and i'm happy with that airplane, well done GP...

Stephane

AJsToyz 02-03-2010 07:52 AM

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Thats great! This tells me these planes can be flown with the newer 30cc class engines. I know there is a 32cc and 38cc coming soon that should put this thing through the roof with out any extra weight !

Andy

mm 02-03-2010 08:14 AM

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if i had to do it again, i think i would buy DLE 30, it's i think a parfect engine for this cap, and it flies very very well for sure

Stephane

AJsToyz 02-03-2010 08:44 AM

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I'm not big on the DLE, they have a couple of issues that the factory needs to address. There are two engines coming out soon by YD Australia that look very promising, a 32cc and a 38cc. I'll have to wait and see but the 32cc should be alot stronger than the DLE and hopefully won't have any issues.

Andy

frankeldan 02-03-2010 01:20 PM

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Well you know the weather is going to start to turn for te better as this thread is picking up again.

My repair on the landing gear and the engine box didn't hold. I came in for a landing.. with just a small bounce and it ripped off the engine compartment. This was enough for me so I bought a new fuse for just over $100.00 from tower. I haven't started to rebuild her yet, but it's on my to do list. I've been tweeking up my PW300 and my 33% Lanier Edge and they are both field ready now.

I hear good things about the dle-30 and this frame. I think it's a perfect match. The balance is still an issue and reccomend a pul pull rudder to take as much weight out of the tail as possible. I did this along with moving my batts and electronics forward and I was still tail heavy. So much so that I added nose weigt to tame the snappyness out of it. I'll try it again this season, but last season was a terrible outing for me and this plane. Too bad cause it's such a great looking bird .. could be me though.

Ok .. I now an jone'ss for a 50cc Pilot-RC Yak with a DLE-55 .. blue flame scheme.. when will the madness stop?

Cheers,

Dan


AJsToyz 02-03-2010 02:26 PM

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Dan,

The Madness never ends !! I have a Brison 40cc on the front of mine BUT I got a new car and it won't fit! [:'(] So it looks good sitting in the basement. I have no doubt that the DLE has some power, I just don't like the fact it has some quality issues. I know there is a 32cc class coming out this summer and can't wait to see what its got for power !

Andy

frankeldan 02-03-2010 02:44 PM

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Dan,

The Madness never ends !! I have a Brison 40cc on the front of mine BUT I got a new car and it won't fit! [:'(] So it looks good sitting in the basement. I have no doubt that the DLE has some power, I just don't like the fact it has some quality issues. I know there is a 32cc class coming out this summer and can't wait to see what its got for power !

Andy

I have a 40cc that needs some work.. New carb,.. I trashed the manual timing advance and bought a automatic one. Mine was cutting out , surging at full power.. Come to think of it , I'll bet it's a great match for this plane.. since the plane is tail heavy that heavy brison prolly fills the need..


Well AJ.. you need to get a small trailer to haul your toys around in .. hence like when we were kids and had the little red wagon.. No kidding.. I'm thinking about getting one.. not red mind you , But something I can stick a bunch of larger planes in and not worry about loading and unloading everytime I go out to the field. I can barly fit the 33% in the Explorer.. but it does fit..

I hear ya on the DL-30 .. I'm excited about the smaller 15 to 17 cc engines right now. I'de like to pick one up for my Mustang. Just something a little different than the run of the mill Saito 100..

Gotta run,

Dan


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