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rclement 05-05-2005 10:57 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Hey, just wondering who all of you use the wheel pants on their planes? I'd like to put them on just for the looks of it. It doesn't seem like it would effect the weight that much.........

I'm using a 90 some odd oz for the rudder and 70 some odd oz for the elevators.

I should have flown this evening but to be nice to the wifey I stayed home and did some painting on the fence. I plan to go tomorrow but it might rain.........[>:]

Forgot to mention, the oddest things happened the other night at the field. I was just leaving when one of the guys flying called my attention. I thought he wanted to show me how well he could fly his new plane so I said "looks great, good job" and calls back to me and says "no, come here" He sounded paniced so I went out there and he hands me his transmitter and says "here, fly my plane" (his plane is up in the air) So I start flying it around for him and he says "Thanks, I have a phone call coming in" and starts talking to his girlfriend. [:-]........... Finally he gets off the phone and takes over flying again. [:-] I couldn't believe it. :eek: Is that weird or what?

raideron 05-05-2005 10:58 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Barry.. Maybe it's not coupling right.... Or is that left... D_m I
hope I don't start crashing...... My C.A. is not dry on top of
the Ultracote yet....

EL TEMUCANO 05-05-2005 11:00 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
WHAT TIME IS THERE??????

HERE IS 12 P.M. I GO TO BED, GOOD NIGHT, HAVE A GOOD DAY...

SERGIO

canonball 05-05-2005 11:47 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
its only 9:45pm hear in rainy ca. the wheel pants do look good but thay dont when thay go trow the wing the landing gear block is veary weak !:eek:

Barry Cazier 05-05-2005 11:53 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
:)The best way to get CA to dry is to touch it with your finger.
Thanks,
Barry

thedak 05-06-2005 12:46 AM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
What about a GMS 76 on a UCD 46?

hockeyrules99 05-06-2005 06:37 AM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Raid .. thats a good looking plane(kangke) just checked them out ..at just over 4 lbs the 46 should do pretty well ..but a YS63:D .Is it a foam core fuse? looks kinda like a morris hobbies ...is it close to being done? they want you to slip the wing through the fuse then CA it?

sctcrash 05-06-2005 09:02 AM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Wow, thanks for all of the information everyone. I think i am going to run out and get the 6V for sure. Thought about just running an 8.4 from my electric, but sounds like that will give me jitter, and probably fry my servos.

This will be my first real attempt at #D flying so I will start with the 57 on 6v all around and improve as I go.

Liberator 05-06-2005 09:47 AM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Sctcrash,

I am using all standard servos and battery packs on my set up. I have had no issues yet, they might come down the road, we will see. I can tell you that I am thinking of getting the battery pack upgrade and all digital servos as I move forward. I think the torque and the response will make the 3d thing a tone easier, but it is pricey.

Good luck on you're build.

Tom

sctcrash 05-06-2005 09:58 AM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Alright,

Reversing Y-Harness, Check.
6v Reciever battery denied.

On to the next LHS.

sctcrash 05-06-2005 10:25 AM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
I am thinking that i will need to put the battery under the fuel tank to balance the plane, will a flat pack fit lenght wise, or will a hump back fit height wise.

raideron 05-06-2005 10:43 AM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
hockeyrules99... No the fuse is just the basic stick/covering ARF.. There
is a lot of cut-outs through out the fuse... Seems to be built good, the
push rods are kinda thin... If the plane makes it through it's first flight
and it flies ok, I'll get stronger ones.. Yeah it's almost(looks) like the
morris hobbies plane with almost the same color scheme.. Hey, for half
price I went for it... It's close to being finished, if all goes right maybe I'll
try it tomorrow or on Monday... Maybe.. I hate to drill it out for the FX
then get the YS... On the, slide the wing on and apply a bead of med. CA
That's what Kangke wants and I ended up doing it that way... Hey I pulled
and twisted the wing and it ain't moving??? We'll see.. They said to do the
same on the stab., But I'm going to do that the normal way.. It's not in
cased like the main wing...

sctcrash... You really can't beat better servos.... Centering, speed etc.
things that you think won't make that much of a difference... But on some
maneuvers you will see how much better they are.. On my first flight with
my used UCD I actually used my "trainer" onboard system with the standard
bushing servos... Then when I got the system I have now.. I did notice the
difference, it just made things eaiser... I really notice the difference on the
Rudder with the higher torq./speed it just responded smoother and quicker
which for me made hovering it so much eaiser.. If your also getting a
charger for you six volt.. a Nimh is better than Nicad..... Lets not even get
into the high tech battery..... Well again that's my story and I'm sticking to
it:-)

Barry..... Yeah I know[:@]...... Don't test it then itch your forehead:-( Don't ask

Have a Great Day people
..... Darn Wind.......

sctcrash 05-06-2005 10:53 AM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Half the fun of building a plane is peiling the CA off your fingers.

kokamo 05-06-2005 12:25 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Well....................I DUN IT!!!! I am officially a U-CAN-DO-3D pilot! I woke up about an hour before sunrise and got all my stuff together in my truck, one hangar 9 Alpha trainer and wing, one UCD3D and a wing (behind the seat), all my feild equipment and last but not least, my radio. This morning would be the first time I have been to the feild to fly since the last of october.
The first flight of the trainer was to get my nerves calmed down. I flew it approx 30 minutes until the batteries went dead on the alpha.
Next was the UCD. I spen more than 30 min going over the flight check to be sure it was ready to go. Just before I go ahead with the maiden, I take some pics of it running on the stand. I took a couple of test runs on the grass to see how it was tracking and it was doing great. After about four passes on the ground, it was time.Got her lined up and throttled her up and off she went. Before she was off the ground I knew that it would need lots of right aileron trim adjustment so immediatly got it done. Then there was a dire need of up elevator, After that, it was pretty much smooth sailing. But for some reason, I felt real uncomftorble because it seemed REALLY tail heavy. The tail was alway wanting to drop off. I have the CG at about 5-1/2 if I can remember right. Anyways, flew it around real slow and calm and did one touch and go to see how it landede and you guys are right about the feather. Just a big ole pillow! Verry nice slow flight on this thing! I like it! Right after the touch and go, I got hit REAL hard with somthing like a blast of wind but it was super calm, it dipped real hard to the left but I recovered. I did one more round and it started to do it real bad. So I start to come it for final approach and my radio starts beeping at me telling me my battery is at about 8.8 volts! Thats where the hits were coming from, not enought juice! So, got the plane back in one peice and everything went great! I just need to fix the CG so I feel mor comftorble with it.

I have some pix for you guys but I need to resize them. I will post them after I get off of work today.

MAN THAT WAS FUN!!!!!

Joe

sctcrash 05-06-2005 12:50 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Congrats Kokomo, if all goes well my maiden will be tomorrow. I can already feel the butterflies.

rclement 05-06-2005 12:58 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Great job KOKAMO!! Glad to hear you took it up for a spin!!
And the angels sing .......... Haleluha, haleluha.......... Haleeeeluuuuuha.....:)

goldenclan 05-06-2005 02:16 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
great job kokamo, I went flying today also, Wind was getting pretty stiff, but wanted to fly it. took off and it did great did a touch and go and some Kinda hovers, I am still looking for the sweet spot on the throttle for it. I even did a tourqe roll!! With the wind being about 15 to 20, I had to land with a little power or it would start to go back wards! Did a few landing with no forward movement and set it right down in front of me and my friend. It was a blast doing the landing and every thing else.

raideron 05-06-2005 02:26 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Great Job Joe!!! They are a Blast!!... I think because of the longer
tail moment the UCD's tail does sort of fly lower at slow speeds, But
still so very controllable... Sort of like an auto harrier:-) I think my
CG is around 6"....... 30+mins. and the tranny battery is down... Time
to recycle or new batteries... You didn't dirty my truck now, did you:-)

sctcrash.... Your turn:-) Let us know how it goes...

rclement 05-06-2005 03:04 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
I'll be maidening my new Twist tomorrow. [8D] (maybe) I know, I know, that doesn't count. Wrong thread. [:-] Still looking forward to it though.........;)

Liberator 05-06-2005 03:16 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Kokamo,

Nice job!!!

Now be careful that you don't run it too long cause you're having too much fun!

I am always landing with fumes cause I don't want the fun to stop.


Tom

raideron 05-06-2005 03:22 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Have Fun CeeGee... I got close to getting one... I heard they
fly good over powered Tho you have to squeeze it in:-) I
flew one and it was pretty good... Have fun

Kaos 05-06-2005 04:32 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Made the 4th and 5th flights on my new U-Can-Do 3D .46 last weekend. The 5th flight ended in the same manner as the 2nd flight; the engine suddenly quit while in level flight. No warning, no surging, no leaning out or anything. Other than this "feature," the engine sounds good and is running in a rich 2-cycle, even when climbing straight up. I've tried 3 different glow plugs, including non idle-bar (OS #8) and a K & B idle-bar type. No joy. I just ordered and received some new Fox idle-bar plugs, so I'll try those next.

The engine is a well used, but in good condition, Super Tigre G.61. Good compression, stock carburetor. I installed a Perry pump into the backplate of this engine a couple of years ago and it worked well in conjunction with a Perry pump carburetor while I had the engine installed in my faithful Super Kaos. The Perry carb was damaged when my Kaos augered in, so I initially tried a backup Perry carb on the first day I flew my UCD. I couldn't get a decent idle, so I field-replaced the Perry with the stock carb and bypassed the pump. Ran great for first flight, pooped out (quit) part way through second flight, as it also did on the 5th flight.

Since last weekend I've hooked up the Perry pump to the stock carb to see if it helps (or, makes things worse). According to some info at Tower Hobbies, the stock Super Tigre carb will work with a Perry pump (the blue one).

To be continued...

Kaos

hockeyrules99 05-06-2005 04:39 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
CONGRATS KOKO!! Glad you got in the air ...it does seem to fly tail heavy at low power settings ...but I got used to it ..lol I'm balanced at 5.5 inches..looking forward to seeing the pics..
John

gjeffers 05-06-2005 06:24 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
hey guys i have a question,[&:] how many oz is the stock tanks supposed to be, i was under the impression they were 8oz, i dont know where i got that (cant find it anywhere ) but its not and all this talk about putting a 11oz in it is worthless because my stock tank is 11oz(270 cc). i have no conversion chart, does anybody know off hand how many oz's 270 cc are?should be close.man i dont know where i heard it was 8oz, i know, i know, its oldtimers disease[:-]:D

sctcrash 05-06-2005 06:26 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Hey CeeGee, howd you like the Twist, a friend in CO is going out for his maiden tomorrow.

gjeffers 05-06-2005 06:38 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
oh i missed your post Kokomo,but great days are here again! whin that tail starts drooping just kick her in the a^& and go!:Dbarry said he would fix our props so dont worry.

go get em crash, it will be great[8D]

CeeGee, we want to see you twist too, i mean YOUR twist,hee hee! post some pics of it, after all this is OUR thread:)

Barry Cazier 05-06-2005 06:47 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
:)gjeffers, 28.4 CC to the ounce. Your stock 270CC tank is about 9.5 ounces. Now you are going to tell us you are getting as good a milage as you thought.
Thanks,
Barry

kokamo 05-06-2005 06:56 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
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Ok, now that I have gotten all my nervs together, here are some pics. Again, these are while the plane is running and warming up so you will see a blur from the prop spinning.

Hockey,
Barry Crazier,
gjeffers,
Kaos,
Raideron,
Liberator,
Goldenclan,
Sctcrash,
and last but definately not least.....CeeGee
and prolly lots more!

Guys, you have all been so great, you guys have gotten my confedence up to fly this thing by myself. Again, this is my second "real" plane not counting my slo-V. Sooooo much info here, Sooooo many nice peolpe to help out. THANKS TO YOU ALL!!!!

Raid.....I don't know what is up with the battery in the TX or the alpha, I charged em all up last night. I must have by accident switched the TX on when I put it in my flight box. Dunno. I did cycle it the best I could. I turned it on and left it on until it was competly dead, then I charged it back up the normal way with the wall charger. I have done this several times and it usually lasts for 4 or 5 hours at the feild. Again, I may have switched it on when I put it in the flight box or it just may be time for a new one. Same goes with the Alpha battery.

Man WHAT A GREAT DAY! I had a BLAST! I got thru about ten or twelve rounds over the feild and that good ole saito-72 didn't miss a lick! It ran perfect!

Ok, I'll shutup, here are some pics!......(Iwas by my lonesome so I couldent get any "in-flight pics) I'm not that good yet:D

Joe

Barry Cazier 05-06-2005 06:59 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
:)raideron, One of the best investments I ever made in this hobby is new batteries. I use Hobbico HydriMax NiMH batteries. I replaced my transmitter battery with the 1450mH 9.6 volt. The cost from Tower is $35. I use the 4.8 volt 1650mA receiver battery. $18. I left my transmitter on, on purpose to see how long it would take to run down. I have a computer radion Futaba 9 CAP. It started at 11.3 volts. At 4 1/2 hours later it was at 9.0 volts. I use my standard overnight charger. The receiver batteries are good for at least 10- 13 minute flights. Basically I charge overnight the night before flying and then don't worry about it all day. Also there is no need to "cycle" these batteries. My transmitter battery is about 1 year old. I've charged it many times and still don't see a difference in longevity. These are a great bargin and take away one of the worries at the field. Get these batteries. You won't be sorry.
Thanks,
Barry

Barry Cazier 05-06-2005 07:03 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
:)kokamo, I can fix that prop for you. You know, take the blurr our.
Thanks,
Barry

kokamo 05-06-2005 07:07 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
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a couple more.......

Barry Cazier 05-06-2005 07:11 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
:)CeeGee. Good luck tomorrow. Let us know how you did. Also, give us a comparison of the Twist to the UCD. I had a Twist. I liked it but found it similar to UCD and sold it. Still have the UCD. Ok, not the original, or even the 2nd or 3rd. But I still have one. The Twist is amazing. It will make the UCD look sick when you flatspin. Can you imagine that? Anyways, mine would also do a rising flatspin. It is fun to fly but I couldn't hover it very well. (I'd like to try again now that I'm a little better pilot) Fun, but I liked the UCD better. Let us know what you think.
Thanks,
Barry

Barry Cazier 05-06-2005 07:12 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
:)kokamo. Nice looking field. What's the green stuff? Also, great looking plane.
Thanks,
Barry

raideron 05-06-2005 07:50 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Joe nice field!!! And as Barry said.... What's is all that green stuff:-) We have
Brown.... But I hate that brown truck....

Barry.. The batteries wasn't for me, My nicads are still doing good.... I have
been thinking(do that a lot, ?????? does not do any good) about the switch to
nimh, but then I thought, may as well go to lipo's/reg. and as you can see I'm
still with my nicads, I have a few of them and there all still good...

raideron 05-06-2005 08:14 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Hey Gary... On Tower it list the tank as 8oz.. 270cc.. And when I replaced
mine which I bought in Vegas at Hobby people, It was exactly the same
tank and it was listed with the same tank size.... So I'll go with 8oz.. My
tank M.T.'s too fast to be any bigger:-))... Maybe its 8oz because of the
fuel/oil mix.... Think that makes sense...

gjeffers 05-06-2005 08:16 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
i dont know anything anymore Barry except im having fun like Kokomo[sm=RAINFRO.gif]

gjeffers 05-06-2005 08:27 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
thanks Ron, the reason i brought all that up was i ordered a h9 11oz tank and it came today so i took the old stock tank out and was getting the new tank tready and noticed that the new tank didnt look any bigger at all, so i took them both out to the garage and filled the stock tank with fuel and then transfered it to the new tanki and it was exactly the same(filled it), so im leaving the stock tank in because of the downset of the stock tank i believe it helps to keep it from flooding, so i guess 9 min fly time will have to do for now.

wait [sm=idea.gif], maybe Barry can sew an extension on it, i know he can

raideron 05-06-2005 08:37 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
Well that's not good... All that work for nothing.... I'd call H9 and
ask the question.... Now lets see........... It could be good and bad
so now remember..... if you want the good... Get the 8oz tank and
not the 11oz and save a few cents:-).....Or....

Barry Cazier 05-06-2005 08:46 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
:)gjeffers, Something is wrong with your tank. Also my info was wrong on conversion. I should have stayed awake a little longer in class. But here is a link to convert cc to oz. www.onlineconversion.com/volumn.htm
At that website it says that one ounce is equal to 29.5735297 CC. I thought it was 28.4 CC. But anyway, using this formula 270/29.5735297 your stock tank would be 9.1 ounces. My H9 tank says 11 oz right on it. and it does hold a little bit more than the stock tank. Sounds like the H9 tank isn't 11 ounces for some reason. Send it to me and I will do a little add on.
Thanks.
Barry

gjeffers 05-06-2005 08:55 PM

RE: U-Can-Do 3d 46?
 
mine also says 11 oz on it to, and the other tank filled it up, so im so confused, but it dont matter much cause im forgetting about it,i quit. im just flying and having fun, like Kokomko;)


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