SuperCap CG Problem
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I completed the SuperCap with the following config:
1. Hacker A20-20L with X20 speed controller
2. Apogee 11.1v 2100mah battery
3. APC 10x 4.7 prop
4. 1 3/4" spiner
Mounted the battery all the way upfront the fuse. Accoording to the manual the CG is supposed to be at 3" from LE of the wings. I am very, very tail heavy. I am sure I can put lead weights but seems like that is going to be quite a bit.
Anyone build these SuperCap and how did you solve this problem??
ANy help would be appreciated.
Kris
1. Hacker A20-20L with X20 speed controller
2. Apogee 11.1v 2100mah battery
3. APC 10x 4.7 prop
4. 1 3/4" spiner
Mounted the battery all the way upfront the fuse. Accoording to the manual the CG is supposed to be at 3" from LE of the wings. I am very, very tail heavy. I am sure I can put lead weights but seems like that is going to be quite a bit.
Anyone build these SuperCap and how did you solve this problem??
ANy help would be appreciated.
Kris
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John,
I absolutely made no changes. I used Elmers Glue to glue the skins together and used Testors spray and used around 11/2 cans but thats it. I have not flown it yet because the CG is an issue. Any clues??
Is the CG 3" from the LE??
Kris
I absolutely made no changes. I used Elmers Glue to glue the skins together and used Testors spray and used around 11/2 cans but thats it. I have not flown it yet because the CG is an issue. Any clues??
Is the CG 3" from the LE??
Kris
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John,
I am confused. What do you mean by just behind?? Can you specify in inches? I just put 2 lead weights in front with a 3" CG and it balances out fine. Do you think this is okay?
Kris
I am confused. What do you mean by just behind?? Can you specify in inches? I just put 2 lead weights in front with a 3" CG and it balances out fine. Do you think this is okay?
Kris
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I had (thought I had) the same problem with my SC. I have the same set up as yours, only I have a TP 1320 LiPo. Being new to 3D I wanted to balance the plane to specs. With the the battery hanging of the nose, and 1.5 oz. lead on the other side It balanced at the 3" mark. I was very disappointed with the plane at that point as well. It was weighing it at 20 oz with the lead on it.
So upon the test flight I set out to set up the CG. After the first flight the lead came off, from there the battery went further, and further rearward. The CG is now 4 to 4 1/4" back.
I now have 54 flights on her without missing a beat! All I do this plane is flyit! I can't say enough good about this plane!
I am now doing maneuvers I though were never possible




So upon the test flight I set out to set up the CG. After the first flight the lead came off, from there the battery went further, and further rearward. The CG is now 4 to 4 1/4" back.
I now have 54 flights on her without missing a beat! All I do this plane is flyit! I can't say enough good about this plane!
I am now doing maneuvers I though were never possible





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SuperKaos,
Thanks for the reply.
I managed to balance it with the lead weights at the nose. It flew quite well except that on an inverted flight I had to give a lot of down elevator. I have not flown it much because I am in New Jersey and weather has been quite bad lately. I will need to readjust the balance point and try it again.
So the plane flew well even at 4" CG. That is good. I will give that a try also.
Thanks
Kris
Thanks for the reply.
I managed to balance it with the lead weights at the nose. It flew quite well except that on an inverted flight I had to give a lot of down elevator. I have not flown it much because I am in New Jersey and weather has been quite bad lately. I will need to readjust the balance point and try it again.
So the plane flew well even at 4" CG. That is good. I will give that a try also.
Thanks
Kris
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SuperKaos,
Took your advise and removed all the lead weights in front and still flew great. Off course I still had give some down elevator on the inverted flight. Maybe today I will move the battery back a little and see if it helps. But if flew a whole lot better with the weights off.
Will keep you posted.
Kris
Took your advise and removed all the lead weights in front and still flew great. Off course I still had give some down elevator on the inverted flight. Maybe today I will move the battery back a little and see if it helps. But if flew a whole lot better with the weights off.
Will keep you posted.
Kris
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Awesome! Glad to hear it! I just took a measurement of how far I moved the battery to aft. I moved it a total of 2"
So far the only thing I don't like about the plane (the way I have it set up) is it likes to tip stall when making tight rudder/flat turns. Like when you're trying to fly low on the deck.
Let me know how yours is once you get it set up.
Other than that it's blast. Today I started hovering 3' off the ground. I would start by doing a slow slow & low pass, slowly pulling the nose up to a hover.
So far the only thing I don't like about the plane (the way I have it set up) is it likes to tip stall when making tight rudder/flat turns. Like when you're trying to fly low on the deck.
Let me know how yours is once you get it set up.
Other than that it's blast. Today I started hovering 3' off the ground. I would start by doing a slow slow & low pass, slowly pulling the nose up to a hover.
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SuperKaos,
Actually I forgot to mention -- while flying mine for about 6mins or so the motor cuts outs in flight. This has happened every time I fly. I land it and then after about 10secs it flies again. I called Hacker about this problem and they think the motor could be shorting out. They asked me to return it for a new replacement. So I can't fly for a few days.
Also your problem with tip stall is probably due to LATERAL Balance. I have very small tiny lead weight at the tip of my left wing. I have found that when a plane is laterally balanced, landing is aways a breeze. In fact you can float the plane in at landing. The SuperCap actually slows to a crawl while landing. Landing is a lot of fun. Try balancing yours and I bet you that is the problem.
Will keep you posted.
Kris
Actually I forgot to mention -- while flying mine for about 6mins or so the motor cuts outs in flight. This has happened every time I fly. I land it and then after about 10secs it flies again. I called Hacker about this problem and they think the motor could be shorting out. They asked me to return it for a new replacement. So I can't fly for a few days.
Also your problem with tip stall is probably due to LATERAL Balance. I have very small tiny lead weight at the tip of my left wing. I have found that when a plane is laterally balanced, landing is aways a breeze. In fact you can float the plane in at landing. The SuperCap actually slows to a crawl while landing. Landing is a lot of fun. Try balancing yours and I bet you that is the problem.
Will keep you posted.
Kris
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Sounds like it's heating up? Did you balance the prop?
I balanced mine laterally as well, is does everything else fine. Later I will play with the CG and see it that helps...
I balanced mine laterally as well, is does everything else fine. Later I will play with the CG and see it that helps...




