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Old 11-12-2015, 02:39 PM
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CHICAGO PROPOSES DRONE REGULATIONS:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...112-story.html
Old 11-12-2015, 04:03 PM
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Doesn't sound to troubling at first glance.

"......The rules approved by the City Council Aviation Committee set extensive prohibitions on where the drones can legally fly. They create no-fly zones of 5 miles around O'Hare and Midway airports. They also prohibit the devices from being piloted over churches, schools, hospitals and any other property not owned by the drone operator without the owner's consent, or "over any person who is not involved in the operation of the small unmanned aircraft, without such person's consent."

With recent high-profile incidents of a drone crash-landing on the White House lawn and another one of the craft sweeping over the heads of attendees at Lollapalooza in Grant Park, Ald. Edward Burke, 14th, said the council is trying to strike a balance between protecting people from physical harm or having their privacy invaded, and keeping Chicago a welcoming city for the cutting-edge technology......"

Sounds perfectly reasonable. They still afford an opportunity for some flights to occur after securing a permit. I'm guessing the permit will confirm appropriate insurance is in place. I also like this part too...for dealing with the outlaws:

"...The proposal, which heads to the full City Council later this month, does come with teeth. Violators would face fines of $500 to $5,000 and up to 180 days in jail...."

Want to fly over a sports event and crash into someone and hurt them....get ready for some stiff fined and 3 hots and a cot for 180 days.
Old 11-12-2015, 05:05 PM
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Actually well thought out....considering it came from a group of politicians not normally known for using their craniums ;-)
Old 11-12-2015, 05:31 PM
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Even a clock is right twice a day.
Old 11-18-2015, 04:43 AM
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http://gizmodo.com/dji-will-also-hel...-up-1743177239

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Old 11-18-2015, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by porcia83
Doesn't sound to troubling at first glance.

"......The rules approved by the City Council Aviation Committee set extensive prohibitions on where the drones can legally fly. They create no-fly zones of 5 miles around O'Hare and Midway airports. They also prohibit the devices from being piloted over churches, schools, hospitals and any other property not owned by the drone operator without the owner's consent, or "over any person who is not involved in the operation of the small unmanned aircraft, without such person's consent."

With recent high-profile incidents of a drone crash-landing on the White House lawn and another one of the craft sweeping over the heads of attendees at Lollapalooza in Grant Park, Ald. Edward Burke, 14th, said the council is trying to strike a balance between protecting people from physical harm or having their privacy invaded, and keeping Chicago a welcoming city for the cutting-edge technology......"

Sounds perfectly reasonable. They still afford an opportunity for some flights to occur after securing a permit. I'm guessing the permit will confirm appropriate insurance is in place. I also like this part too...for dealing with the outlaws:

"...The proposal, which heads to the full City Council later this month, does come with teeth. Violators would face fines of $500 to $5,000 and up to 180 days in jail...."

Want to fly over a sports event and crash into someone and hurt them....get ready for some stiff fined and 3 hots and a cot for 180 days.
So would that be an infraction, not a misdemeanor?
Old 11-18-2015, 05:23 AM
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~http://www.cio.com/article/3005895/dji-is-removing-mandatory-no-fly-zones-from-its-drones.html
Old 11-18-2015, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Sport_Pilot
So would that be an infraction, not a misdemeanor?
In my opinion, it would be both. Reason: you have to commit an infraction to get the misdemeanor.
Old 11-18-2015, 08:25 AM
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A crime is either an infraction (such as a speeding ticket, throwing trash on the sidewalk), a misdemeanor (such as hit and run with no injury, petty theft), or a felony ( rape, murder, grand larceny). It cannot be any two of the above. In LA their new law was a misdemeanor, minimum of one year in jail or $1,000 (in California). Plus you have to report misdemeanors when you apply for jobs, your insurance rates are higher, etc.
Old 11-18-2015, 11:48 AM
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As far as I can tell, the article does not mention if it's an infraction or misdemeanor. I hope it's the latter.

I doesn't matter, really. A $5,000 fine and 6 months in jail sends a very powerful message.
Old 11-18-2015, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by N410DC
As far as I can tell, the article does not mention if it's an infraction or misdemeanor. I hope it's the latter.

I doesn't matter, really. A $5,000 fine and 6 months in jail sends a very powerful message.
Actually that's a $500 fine, $5000 is the max and nobody gets the max on the first offence.
Old 11-18-2015, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Sport_Pilot
A crime is either an infraction (such as a speeding ticket, throwing trash on the sidewalk), a misdemeanor (such as hit and run with no injury, petty theft), or a felony ( rape, murder, grand larceny). It cannot be any two of the above. In LA their new law was a misdemeanor, minimum of one year in jail or $1,000 (in California). Plus you have to report misdemeanors when you apply for jobs, your insurance rates are higher, etc.
That's exactly the way it is here with law matters , with the only minor difference is that they call the first one you mentioned a "Civil infraction" . As yet I don't think there are any Drone specific laws in Massachusetts , but they may have signed one or more while the media was fixated on all things Kardashian .....
Old 11-18-2015, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Sport_Pilot
Actually that's a $500 fine, $5000 is the max and nobody gets the max on the first offence.
Though this is generally true, I think the nature of the offense would also matter. Pirker was fined $10,000 for his first offense, and managed to get away paying well over $500 ($1,100, to be exact.) A pilot who in hovering over a neighbor's yard would likely get the $500 fine, whereas someone hovering 20' over home plate at a Cubs game would be more likely to get the "full treatment."
Old 11-18-2015, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by N410DC
Though this is generally true, I think the nature of the offense would also matter. Pirker was fined $10,000 for his first offense, and managed to get away paying well over $500 ($1,100, to be exact.) A pilot who in hovering over a neighbor's yard would likely get the $500 fine, whereas someone hovering 20' over home plate at a Cubs game would be more likely to get the "full treatment."
Should also be noted he had pro bono counsel too...saved him an easy 100k in fees there.
Old 11-18-2015, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by N410DC
Though this is generally true, I think the nature of the offense would also matter. Pirker was fined $10,000 for his first offense, and managed to get away paying well over $500 ($1,100, to be exact.) A pilot who in hovering over a neighbor's yard would likely get the $500 fine, whereas someone hovering 20' over home plate at a Cubs game would be more likely to get the "full treatment."
Actually flying over home plate or the home, would be trespassing in most states.
Old 11-18-2015, 10:03 PM
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When you guys see rules like this come into play, think about the next step of applying the same rules to conventional model planes and see how many places we have left to fly. You cant fix stupid. But can screw things up for everybody else.
Old 11-18-2015, 10:39 PM
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Did you see something about Italy banning drones yesterday? Not sure if it was a temporary thing or what...
Old 11-19-2015, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Sport_Pilot
Actually flying over home plate or the home, would be trespassing in most states.
True, plus the penalties from the new city statute, and whatever fines the FAA, TSA, and/or Homeland Security wanted to throw in as well. Perhaps when the government actually throws the book at one of these idiots, some of the other idiots may take the hint.
Old 11-19-2015, 09:21 PM
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One impressive drone pilot....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRmlX6rrs2w
Old 11-20-2015, 04:19 AM
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Amazing work.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=XMs2ZpOPBDQ
Old 11-25-2015, 05:22 PM
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<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/HhRKePJcSKU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Old 12-30-2015, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by porcia83
Amazing work.

Here is another perfect example of stupidity!!!!!!!!
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...742792%2F&_rdr
Old 12-30-2015, 12:52 PM
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Why in the #$$%%& are they linking us to these complete idiot's? Its like some guy speeds down the highway in a sports car, passing cars on both sides running top speed, risking life and limb, and because I own a car I get the same ticket!
Old 12-30-2015, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by porcia83
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/HhRKePJcSKU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Large bird but plane landed safely,


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