Let's join together and refuse the FAA registration
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Here's a link to contact your "public servants" in DC to vent your frustration.
http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/
Mike
http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/
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This whole thing has me just ill, I had my first grandchild born yesterday that did not have a RC plane built from grampa when he came into this world, to be honest I have not touched a plane in a couple months till I see how this all plays out, I know I am done buying anything RC related for awhile. Its funny but very sad, people can break into our country and not be called criminals, but soon if we don't comply with these new laws we will be criminals flying our rc planes. I eat, sleep and dream of my next build, don't have anything I would rather do then build and fly, we have to win this Battle. the 5 bucks is just the tip of the iceberg.
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This whole thing has me just ill, I had my first grandchild born yesterday that did not have a RC plane built from grampa when he came into this world, to be honest I have not touched a plane in a couple months till I see how this all plays out, I know I am done buying anything RC related for awhile. Its funny but very sad, people can break into our country and not be called criminals, but soon if we don't comply with these new laws we will be criminals flying our rc planes. I eat, sleep and dream of my next build, don't have anything I would rather do then build and fly, we have to win this Battle. the 5 bucks is just the tip of the iceberg.
In my entire 55 years in this hobby I've never heard of an incident involving an r/c airplane and a full scale aircraft where the r/c airplane was at fault.
A few of my friends have decided to just fly small foamies, but I find that demeaning and insulting.
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As stated by hairy46, this is the tip of the iceberg. It is not just registration. It is an unjustified and illegal power grab by the FAA. I know you are well aware of the issues involved as I've seen in your many posts on the subject.
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I did not intend to infer that flying foamies per se is demeaning; I fly them too. However, I will not consent to be relegated to flying only them and I am vehemently opposed to having to register to participate in a hobby I've enjoyed for 50+ years without incident.
As stated by hairy46, this is the tip of the iceberg. It is not just registration. It is an unjustified and illegal power grab by the FAA. I know you are well aware of the issues involved as I've seen in your many posts on the subject.
As stated by hairy46, this is the tip of the iceberg. It is not just registration. It is an unjustified and illegal power grab by the FAA. I know you are well aware of the issues involved as I've seen in your many posts on the subject.
I don't get it, I'm going to comply and keep flying, that's the best revenge.
Love the pics in your gallery btw, those triplets are mightyfine!
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Honestly I don't fly foamies won't fly them because they just do not do it for me, most of us know that this is a power grab and it's just a short time before it escalates! Head in the sand won't help on this one, the drone folks are going to keep doing what they are doing and we will keep getting punished for it.
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Honestly I don't fly foamies won't fly them because they just do not do it for me, most of us know that this is a power grab and it's just a short time before it escalates! Head in the sand won't help on this one, the drone folks are going to keep doing what they are doing and we will keep getting punished for it.
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Honestly I don't fly foamies won't fly them because they just do not do it for me, most of us know that this is a power grab and it's just a short time before it escalates! Head in the sand won't help on this one, the drone folks are going to keep doing what they are doing and we will keep getting punished for it.
Hairy, years from now when your common sense predictions come true, these folks you are attempting to reach will claim that NOBODY could have predicted a day would come when you needed to take 8 hours [let's say $160 worth] of mandatory education classes every year so that you could pass your mandatory FAA administered Model Plane Pilot Licensing Exam that costs an additional $200 or so..
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True story... within the last two weeks i was told by a full scale pilot that flies " or did" a G5 for a living, what happened in the skies near Rochester,ny ... the primary runway for Rochester international runs north south so when landing to the south the airlines use a pattern that takes them to the east of the city and over lake Ontario . A delta airlines was in the pattern at 2,500 ,i assume on it downwind leg , when either the airliner passed or the drone flew past the cockpit. The state police showed up at the local hobby shops looking for the owner . This is mostly why we have the law breathing down our necks. I thought that AMA should have pushed for an agreement with FAA to have it unlawful to fly any R/C aircraft outside a AMA chartered club. Instead everyone gets thrown in the same basket as far as regulation goes.
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Hairy, years from now when your common sense predictions come true, these folks you are attempting to reach will claim that NOBODY could have predicted a day would come when you needed to take 8 hours [let's say $160 worth] of mandatory education classes every year so that you could pass your mandatory FAA administered Model Plane Pilot Licensing Exam that costs an additional $200 or so..
Some will continue on enjoying the hobby while others pine away for the good old days, fondling their precious balsa kits, all the while projecting every calamity possible that might happen in the future. Even when tragedy fails to rear it's ugly head, the doomsday predictors will find a way to take any bump in the road as a further sign of impending doom. It's juuuust around the corner. That day will never come, but that won't stop them from secretly wanting it soooo bad, just so they can pull themselves away from the balsa to say...see, I told you so!
Meanwhile, the hobby continues forward adapting to the times and change, while those incapable of it continue their march to obsolescence.
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Kidding ! just figured you could use a good laugh this early in the AM .
MY favorite use for foamies used to be night flying . I'd string more lights on em than the average Christmas tree has , and all who saw the night flying demonstrations were suitably impressed . Including the Police , who liked to watch in between chasin all the drug dealers away . Sadly , because of this rampant drug dealing , the local town council made the park I used to fly at night "sunup to sundown" admission only , and so ended the night flying . The Police themselves told me they had far better things to do than to chase an old guy with his toy planes out of the park , but I didn't feel right disobeying the town council's ruling . The local cops are a bunch of great guys and I wouldn't have wanted to bring them trouble for "selective enforcement" , allowing me to stay while chasing out the drug dealers .
So now , when I get a hankering for some night flying , I take my little "Night Vapor" out into my own backyard and give the neighbors a little mini airshow .
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Arghhhhh....THE END IS NEAR....ohh the humanity....hide your kits, hide your balsa, they are coming to take us away. The dreaded arfs and foamies have won!
Some will continue on enjoying the hobby while others pine away for the good old days, fondling their precious balsa kits, all the while projecting every calamity possible that might happen in the future. Even when tragedy fails to rear it's ugly head, the doomsday predictors will find a way to take any bump in the road as a further sign of impending doom. It's juuuust around the corner. That day will never come, but that won't stop them from secretly wanting it soooo bad, just so they can pull themselves away from the balsa to say...see, I told you so!
Meanwhile, the hobby continues forward adapting to the times and change, while those incapable of it continue their march to obsolescence.
Some will continue on enjoying the hobby while others pine away for the good old days, fondling their precious balsa kits, all the while projecting every calamity possible that might happen in the future. Even when tragedy fails to rear it's ugly head, the doomsday predictors will find a way to take any bump in the road as a further sign of impending doom. It's juuuust around the corner. That day will never come, but that won't stop them from secretly wanting it soooo bad, just so they can pull themselves away from the balsa to say...see, I told you so!
Meanwhile, the hobby continues forward adapting to the times and change, while those incapable of it continue their march to obsolescence.
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I'm going to wait out AMA to see what's coming. Gary Fitch is a good friend of mine. i case you didn't know ,he's the Executive vice president of AMA. I have talked to him in length about this FAA situation and i can tell all you guys, you have no idea how much time ,effort and money has been spent on trying to keep the government out of our lives. He as well as others have spend thousands of dollars of their own money for this hobby. so please don't shoot the messenger they are modelers too. WB_1
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There is a far cry from continuing to enjoy the hobby and make the most of it, and that which you so poorly tried to convey in the pic above. Going about life, flying, enjoying the hobby and following the rules is what I'll do. If you want to distill that down to that pic, have at it. It misses the mark by a mile and is disingenuous, but I presume you know that already. You tried it before and it failed then too....
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The issue of registration pales to insignificance if you live within 30 miles of Washington, DC. The FAA has recently promulgated a "No Drone Zone" within 30 miles of the capital. Although the document uses both "drone" and "unmanned" in the text, a call to an individual working within the UAS organization, confirms that UAS INCLUDES model aircraft. Complain about registering all you wish but complain more that flying is prohibited because of your zip code. Losing a long-held flying site is much worse then the piss-ant issue of registering.
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I would rather we look at the FAA as an ally and instead focus our attention to the Homeland Security folks, who I believe, are really driving this train. The docs may come from the FAA, but I bet they are simply parroting what the DHS wogs are tellig them to say. Just a thought.
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Well if the FAA is going to call our RC planes "drones" and relate them to full size aviation, should we not then be allowed to use airport facilities, just the like the full size planes? Since most of these are supplemented with taxes, who will be the first to file a suit for rights to fly at the airport? I have already lost my ability to fly at one of the local airports because the FAA official told the FBO that no RC activities could take place on the site.
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