Are we as hobbyist UAS users in the clear for now? can we jump for joy? or to soon?
07-14-2016, 08:13 AM
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Simply amazing the lengths some will go to deny the AMA wants a captive membership . Anybody who understands the English language and doesn't have an almost fanatical devotion to defending the AMA at all costs can see that what Chad says most certainly means that the AMA believes that in order to be in compliance with #336 , you HAVE to be a member . Some , who don't have a consistently pro AMA agenda to push , seem to think as long as the safety code is followed , the safety aspects of it are all that matters , whether one is a member or not . Now , since the safety code IS public record , and not some "super secret double handshake" like I'm sure at least a couple here would like to see it be , there really should be no problem for a non AMA member to fly according to the safety code and thus the supposed ultimate goal (public safety , and NOT increasing AMA membership by force !) would be preserved .
It's to bad you can't see the difference between disagreeing with his jihad against the ama as blindly defending the ama. You keep going back to this empty well yet fail to show any proof of this. Nobody has, they can't. Just more generalizations and broad brush characterizations. Grade school, perhaps middle school level stuff at best.
Do you have any proof if your own that the AMA is intentionally misleading people, or will we continue to rely on Franklin's work?
07-14-2016, 08:15 AM
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07-14-2016, 08:19 AM
#256
Sport , even though the original tag was "the three amigos" I really only think two posters here fit that description , and you ain't one of em . Sure , you examine , pick apart , play with , and completely dissect each point , but I believe you do it from a position of honesty , as in you really do want to examine both sides and determine which is the correct VS incorrect viewpoint . The two I'm thinking of are anything BUT honest , they are here simply to argue that the AMA is God's most perfect creation and that any mere mortal who dares challenge that divinity is nothing short of the Devil himself , come a knockin on the AMA's door . When you couple an almost pathological obsession over something like the AMA , with a bad case of what one great poster once deemed as "Posting Disease" , you get the kinds of posts those two post . I actually believe both you and Franklin honestly believe in what you post , and I also believe that for the two I'm speaking of honesty means nothing if it gets in the way of their posting disease/relentless AMA defense . As such , I really don't care to try to "convince" or "prove" anything to either of them , their minds being as closed as a sealed Mason jar ......
07-14-2016, 08:21 AM
#257
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Lol...si true. Imagine a member driven group wanting...wait for it...more members. Oh perish the thought. THAT twisted criticism by the ardently anti ama crew is just another desperate reach to find fault with the. As usual, it's a no win. Gain members..well it was done by witchcraft and trickery!. Lose members....well they didn't try hard enough to get new members. Oh, and drones. Drones bad.
07-14-2016, 08:23 AM
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07-14-2016, 08:26 AM
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07-14-2016, 08:31 AM
#261
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I think sport said it best...hit the nail on the head. If there is no ability to discuss the issues the posts go angry and negative, more of the same so as I say not as I do stuff, preachy stuff about tolerance and an open mind, lol. No proof of any assertions to be forthcoming, just more of the same. We are pretty much in the clear and should be OK with the status of the hobby. More work can be done and we should continue to be vigilant that our abilities to enjoy the hobby aren't curtailed. How someone seeths and gets so angry and upset discussing the issues is really bizzare.
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07-14-2016, 08:33 AM
#263
I don't agree with everything the other Amigos say that is for sure. For example Porcia doesn't want to admit the AMA claims that you must be a member before the FAA would allow you to follow their rules. I agree but I don't see anything wrong with them saying that. At least not until the FAA weighs in. However, we do agree on the topic of the mid air thread.
07-14-2016, 09:08 AM
#265
The duo , OTH , well , we ALL know what they are here for , and I have no use of conversation with someone of such cast in stone agenda .
More public attempts at shaming through assumption everyone else agrees with "your" opinion. If you actually believe what you stated you wouldn't engage in direct or indirect responses.
"The Mason Brothers" ...... Kinda has a nice ring to it .....
More blatant examples of shaming through intolerance and labeling. Still in second grade?
PS , MY proof of seeing both sides is that while I agreed with Franklin that the intent of the rule he quoted is that each and every second degree burn has to be reported , I ALSO agreed with you and others that there should be a threshold of severity so that , as I put it "A dime sized muffler burn from your OS 35 shouldn't need to be reported" . Do you remember that exchange ? Now , I don't know how someone could possibly be more open minded than that , regardless of what the Mason bros. want to say about "intolerance" and "closed mindedness" .....
Open minded indeed.
More public attempts at shaming through assumption everyone else agrees with "your" opinion. If you actually believe what you stated you wouldn't engage in direct or indirect responses.
"The Mason Brothers" ...... Kinda has a nice ring to it .....
More blatant examples of shaming through intolerance and labeling. Still in second grade?
PS , MY proof of seeing both sides is that while I agreed with Franklin that the intent of the rule he quoted is that each and every second degree burn has to be reported , I ALSO agreed with you and others that there should be a threshold of severity so that , as I put it "A dime sized muffler burn from your OS 35 shouldn't need to be reported" . Do you remember that exchange ? Now , I don't know how someone could possibly be more open minded than that , regardless of what the Mason bros. want to say about "intolerance" and "closed mindedness" .....
Open minded indeed.
07-14-2016, 09:24 AM
#266
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I don't agree with everything the other Amigos say that is for sure. For example Porcia doesn't want to admit the AMA claims that you must be a member before the FAA would allow you to follow their rules. I agree but I don't see anything wrong with them saying that. At least not until the FAA weighs in. However, we do agree on the topic of the mid air thread.
07-14-2016, 09:25 AM
#267
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And this is exactly why I think you are here to examine both sides , you agree with what you see is right no matter who it is who happens to be right or wrong . The duo , OTH , well , we ALL know what they are here for , and I have no use of conversation with someone of such cast in stone agenda .
"The Mason Brothers" ...... Kinda has a nice ring to it .....
PS , MY proof of seeing both sides is that while I agreed with Franklin that the intent of the rule he quoted is that each and every second degree burn has to be reported , I ALSO agreed with you and others that there should be a threshold of severity so that , as I put it "A dime sized muffler burn from your OS 35 shouldn't need to be reported" . Do you remember that exchange ? Now , I don't know how someone could possibly be more open minded than that , regardless of what the Mason bros. want to say about "intolerance" and "closed mindedness" .....
"The Mason Brothers" ...... Kinda has a nice ring to it .....
PS , MY proof of seeing both sides is that while I agreed with Franklin that the intent of the rule he quoted is that each and every second degree burn has to be reported , I ALSO agreed with you and others that there should be a threshold of severity so that , as I put it "A dime sized muffler burn from your OS 35 shouldn't need to be reported" . Do you remember that exchange ? Now , I don't know how someone could possibly be more open minded than that , regardless of what the Mason bros. want to say about "intolerance" and "closed mindedness" .....
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07-14-2016, 09:31 AM
#268
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I don't agree with everything the other Amigos say that is for sure. For example Porcia doesn't want to admit the AMA claims that you must be a member before the FAA would allow you to follow their rules. I agree but I don't see anything wrong with them saying that. At least not until the FAA weighs in. However, we do agree on the topic of the mid air thread.
07-14-2016, 09:32 AM
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07-14-2016, 09:39 AM
#270
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I don't know all I know is there's really no need to be so antagonistic because we have a difference of opinion heavy discussion seems to go down the same pass I'm turning the comments on the people making the comments rather than the comments just disappointing and tiring
07-14-2016, 09:45 AM
#271
I don't know all I know is there's really no need to be so antagonistic because we have a difference of opinion heavy discussion seems to go down the same pass I'm turning the comments on the people making the comments rather than the comments just disappointing and tiring
unwillingness to accept views, beliefs, or behavior that differ from one's own.
synonyms:bigotry, narrow-mindedness, small-mindedness, illiberality, parochialism, provincialism; prejudice, bias, partisanship, partiality, discrimination;
injustice, inequality
quite fitting actually.
07-14-2016, 10:02 AM
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07-14-2016, 10:23 AM
#275
Gee , ya think your wingmate here ain't being antagonistic , only one side can be antagonistic , I suppose you also believe only one race can be racist ?
Yep , intolerant cause when someone speaks the truth I agree with it . How's the "Entertainment Value" there , are you getting all the possible joy out of being obstinate that you can ?
Yep , intolerant cause when someone speaks the truth I agree with it . How's the "Entertainment Value" there , are you getting all the possible joy out of being obstinate that you can ?