Go Back  RCU Forums > RC Airplanes > AMA Discussions
Crickets.... >

Crickets....

Community
Search
Notices
AMA Discussions Discuss AMA policies, decisions & any other AMA related topics here.

Crickets....

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-19-2022 | 08:04 AM
  #801  
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,342
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
From: Lockport, NY
Default

Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
My thoughts are this:
  • The AMA would charge $85 for me to be a member for one year. This would not include else in my household
  • NAMBA did charge $90 for me AND THE WIFE to be members for a year
  • The average flying club would charge me a fairly substantial fee for being a member whether I use the facilities provided or not
  • My boating club, R/C Unlimiteds, charge me $15 per year, per boat, for membership and a participation fee for each race I go to for awards for winners so I only pay for what I use.
  • The AMA has raised it's membership rates TWICE in the past 8 years
  • NAMBA HAS NOT raised their membership rates since I first became a member, almost 10 years ago
My question is why is it that NAMBA has not felt the need to raise their rates in over 10 years while the AMA has raised theirs twice? Let's see if we can figure this one out :
  • AMA has a overpriced PAID staff that is borderline incompetent, NAMBA has a volunteer staff
  • AMA has a facility that includes a museum that most don't care about and a field that is rarely used by anyone from outside the Muncie area, NAMBA has none of that to spend money on
  • AMA prints a quarterly magazine that costs substantial amounts of money, NAMBA has a newsletter that costs little more than ink and paper
Sounds to me like NAMBA doesn't spend more than it has to while the AMA spends money because they have it. Kind of like watching the Democrats trying to pass their multi-billion dollar bills that don't benefit the people, just the organization.
Would it be possible for NAMBA to cover RC aeromodelling?

Last edited by fliers1; 07-19-2022 at 09:53 AM.
Old 07-19-2022 | 09:01 AM
  #802  
Hydro Junkie's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 10,629
Received 139 Likes on 132 Posts
From: Marysville, WA
Default

Good question. You would have to ask their secretary, Al Waters, on that one
Old 07-19-2022 | 09:39 AM
  #803  
BarracudaHockey's Avatar
My Feedback: (11)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 28,260
Received 443 Likes on 362 Posts
From: Jacksonville, FL
Default

Seriously?? That's awesome

The NAMBA guy is named Waters.....i needed a laugh today, thanks!!!
Old 07-19-2022 | 10:59 AM
  #804  
Hydro Junkie's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 10,629
Received 139 Likes on 132 Posts
From: Marysville, WA
Default

I kid you not. Here's a link to the page on their website that shows it:
::: The Official Site of the North American Model Boat Association :::
Old 07-19-2022 | 11:39 AM
  #805  
speedracerntrixie's Avatar
My Feedback: (29)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 9,709
Received 204 Likes on 175 Posts
From: Happy Valley, Oregon
Default

Comparing AMA to NAMBA is apples to oranges.
Old 07-19-2022 | 12:06 PM
  #806  
Hydro Junkie's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 10,629
Received 139 Likes on 132 Posts
From: Marysville, WA
Default

They both do the same things:
  • They provide insurance
  • They both keep track of membership
  • They both hold national competitions
  • They both sanction the clubs that run under their insurance
  • They both set rules the clubs must follow
They both do different things:
  • NAMBA lets the districs run events in their districs
  • NAMBA will allow anyone to run for office, not just leader members or designated CDs
  • NAMBA has a moving national competition system that lets the districts hold the competitions on a rotating basis where all AMA national events are held in Muncie. This year's NAMBA Nationals will be in Seaside CA in October while last year's event was at Legg Lake CA, 2019 was in SLC, 2018 in Carrollton TX, etc
  • NAMBA DOESN'T GO THROUGH MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR IN USELESS OVERHEAD!!!!!!!
Old 07-19-2022 | 12:09 PM
  #807  
init4fun's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 4,405
Received 53 Likes on 47 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
Comparing AMA to NAMBA is apples to oranges.
I can compare apples to oranges.......

By comparison, , , , neither make good baseballs.

And yes, I've tried....
Old 07-19-2022 | 12:36 PM
  #808  
speedracerntrixie's Avatar
My Feedback: (29)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 9,709
Received 204 Likes on 175 Posts
From: Happy Valley, Oregon
Default

Aside from hosting F3A team selections, NATs, National fun fly etc. AMA gives scholarships. They have a flying site assistance program

But the big difference is that the AMA lobbies government.
Old 07-19-2022 | 12:57 PM
  #809  
Hydro Junkie's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 10,629
Received 139 Likes on 132 Posts
From: Marysville, WA
Default

Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
Aside from hosting F3A team selections, NATs, National fun fly etc. AMA gives scholarships. They have a flying site assistance program
So what. The National Square and Folk Dance Federation, the Eagles, VFW and American Legion also give scholarships too. When was the last time Muncie gave money to a flying site? Does anyone really know?
Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
But the big difference is that the AMA lobbies government.
Just not very effectively after the "drone fiasco" when they tried to get the FAA to force all R/C fliers to join the AMA. As I said, wasted overhead by the millions

Last edited by Hydro Junkie; 07-19-2022 at 01:02 PM.
Old 07-19-2022 | 01:03 PM
  #810  
speedracerntrixie's Avatar
My Feedback: (29)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 9,709
Received 204 Likes on 175 Posts
From: Happy Valley, Oregon
Default

Sorry Hydro but when you start talking boats and dancing on an aero modeling forum it just looks like you’re grasping.
Old 07-19-2022 | 01:31 PM
  #811  
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,342
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
From: Lockport, NY
Default

Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
So what. The National Square and Folk Dance Federation, the Eagles, VFW and American Legion also give scholarships too. When was the last time Muncie gave money to a flying site? Does anyone really know?

Just not very effectively after the "drone fiasco" when they tried to get the FAA to force all R/C fliers to join the AMA. As I said, wasted overhead by the millions
Here's the answer I got from the secretary of NAMBA. "We can’t complete with AMA. They are so big, that they are self-supportive. To obtain the liability coverage we have, we had to direct it towards model boats only rather than cars and planes which was many years ago the case. NAMBA was created and spun off from WAM (Western Association of Modelers) to create its own model boating organization similar to IMPBA".
Old 07-19-2022 | 01:43 PM
  #812  
astrohog's Avatar
My Feedback: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 3,370
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
From: Bellingham, WA
Default

Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
But the big difference is that the AMA lobbies government.
Just not very effectively for the last decade or so……

Astro
Old 07-19-2022 | 02:27 PM
  #813  
speedracerntrixie's Avatar
My Feedback: (29)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 9,709
Received 204 Likes on 175 Posts
From: Happy Valley, Oregon
Default

Originally Posted by astrohog
Just not very effectively for the last decade or so……

Astro
Irrelevant to the topic of comparing the two organizations.
Old 07-19-2022 | 02:32 PM
  #814  
Hydro Junkie's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 10,629
Received 139 Likes on 132 Posts
From: Marysville, WA
Default

Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
Sorry Hydro but when you start talking boats and dancing on an aero modeling forum it just looks like you’re grasping.
Not at all. Just showing that other organizations do the same things the AMA says it does without having a captive audience. I don't have to be a NAMBA member to run my boats in any lake that powerboats are allowed and I don't have to be a club member to go dancing at any club in the world. Can't say that about the AMA or their associated flying clubs
Old 07-19-2022 | 02:33 PM
  #815  
astrohog's Avatar
My Feedback: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 3,370
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
From: Bellingham, WA
Default

Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
Irrelevant to the topic of comparing the two organizations.
LOL. I could say I’ve played basketball with NBA players too, but it wouldn’t make me any more relevant as a basketball player.

Maybe we should give the AMA a participation trophy, THAT might be relevant…

Astro
Old 07-19-2022 | 02:40 PM
  #816  
speedracerntrixie's Avatar
My Feedback: (29)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 9,709
Received 204 Likes on 175 Posts
From: Happy Valley, Oregon
Default

I think you and Hydro are much more deserving of a participation trophy. However what we ended up From the FAA wasn’t as bad as what was originally proposed. Not as effective as what we had hoped for but does demonstrate some effectiveness on their part. Unlike the constant broken record being played here.
Old 07-19-2022 | 03:08 PM
  #817  
Hydro Junkie's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 10,629
Received 139 Likes on 132 Posts
From: Marysville, WA
Default

I might take a participation trophy if I was actually participating in something that actually required participation. This thread doesn't require more than a couple of brain cells to prove my point in so......
Old 07-19-2022 | 03:13 PM
  #818  
astrohog's Avatar
My Feedback: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 3,370
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
From: Bellingham, WA
Default

Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
I think you and Hydro are much more deserving of a participation trophy. However what we ended up From the FAA wasn’t as bad as what was originally proposed. Not as effective as what we had hoped for but does demonstrate some effectiveness on their part. Unlike the constant broken record being played here.
you gotta admit that broken record has two sides….

Astro
Old 07-19-2022 | 03:17 PM
  #819  
speedracerntrixie's Avatar
My Feedback: (29)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 9,709
Received 204 Likes on 175 Posts
From: Happy Valley, Oregon
Default

Originally Posted by astrohog
you gotta admit that broken record has two sides….

Astro
Wouldn’t disagree with that.
Old 07-19-2022 | 04:10 PM
  #820  
astrohog's Avatar
My Feedback: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 3,370
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
From: Bellingham, WA
Default

Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
Wouldn’t disagree with that.
Then why bring it up in the first place?

Astro
Old 07-19-2022 | 04:43 PM
  #821  
speedracerntrixie's Avatar
My Feedback: (29)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 9,709
Received 204 Likes on 175 Posts
From: Happy Valley, Oregon
Default

Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
I might take a participation trophy if I was actually participating in something that actually required participation. This thread doesn't require more than a couple of brain cells to prove my point in so......

I was referring to you amount of participation in the hobby.
Old 07-19-2022 | 04:45 PM
  #822  
speedracerntrixie's Avatar
My Feedback: (29)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 9,709
Received 204 Likes on 175 Posts
From: Happy Valley, Oregon
Default

Originally Posted by astrohog
Then why bring it up in the first place?

Astro
Because I goddamned wanted to!
Old 07-19-2022 | 05:44 PM
  #823  
astrohog's Avatar
My Feedback: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 3,370
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
From: Bellingham, WA
Default

Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
I was referring to you amount of participation in the hobby.
LOL. Gunning for the Grand Poobah award still, I see!

talk about irrelevant!

Astro
Old 07-19-2022 | 05:45 PM
  #824  
astrohog's Avatar
My Feedback: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 3,370
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
From: Bellingham, WA
Default

Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
Because I goddamned wanted to!
I get that you WANTED to, but it’s still irrelevant…

The hypocrisy never ends with you..

Astro
Old 07-19-2022 | 06:30 PM
  #825  
Hydro Junkie's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 10,629
Received 139 Likes on 132 Posts
From: Marysville, WA
Default

Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
I was referring to you amount of participation in the hobby.
Too much or not enough? I'm spending over $1,000 over three weekends this month on boat racing, food and lodging. I think, for the month of July, that's plenty
Then again, I spent another $175 on parts just yesterday so......


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.