AMA Bashing is Pointless
03-04-2021, 10:39 AM
#126
People here were looking for information on how to find an insurance company for our hobby. Or maybe they were afraid of getting sued by AMA. Who knows. Just would have to ask them.
03-04-2021, 11:51 AM
#127
Senior Member
I filed out some quote forms online (recreation and outdoor sports). The only one who called back was Veracity Insurance.
- Ropes & Challenge Courses
- UTV Tours
- Guided Snowmobile Tours
- Climbing Gyms
- Fishing Guides & Outfitters
- Zipline & Canopy Tours
- Canoe & Kayak Rentals
- Bicycle Tour & Rentals
- Sports & Recreation
Long story short, before pitching the idea of clubs leaving AMA first do some research.
03-04-2021, 05:10 PM
#128
Senior Member
That said, thanks to the proliferation of both recreational and commercial MR Drones, sources of insurance abound. One can get personal liability, site liability and hull coverage that will even cover a crash. And it is ALL primary coverage unlike the AMA products. You can get this by the day, month and year. Pay for only the time you're actually flying. Less than 5 minutes on your smart phone, tablet or PC will activate or deactivate your coverage for the dates, times and locations you so designate.
Here's one -
Last edited by ECHO24; 03-04-2021 at 05:39 PM.
03-04-2021, 05:11 PM
#129
You've got 3 people here saying how easy it is to get cheap insurance for an RC club, but none can say where.
I filed out some quote forms online (recreation and outdoor sports). The only one who called back was Veracity Insurance.
Long story short, before pitching the idea of clubs leaving AMA first do some research.
I filed out some quote forms online (recreation and outdoor sports). The only one who called back was Veracity Insurance.
- Ropes & Challenge Courses
- UTV Tours
- Guided Snowmobile Tours
- Climbing Gyms
- Fishing Guides & Outfitters
- Zipline & Canopy Tours
- Canoe & Kayak Rentals
- Bicycle Tour & Rentals
- Sports & Recreation
Long story short, before pitching the idea of clubs leaving AMA first do some research.
Astro
03-04-2021, 05:42 PM
#130
Senior Member
Apparently you failed to read my post above that stated there probably wouldn’t be a “canned” RC policy. You might have to actually go visit your local insurance company of choice and talk to them in person, discuss what you would like coverage on and potentially wait for their actuary to crunch the numbers.
Astro
Astro
03-04-2021, 06:42 PM
#132
AMA is $75 per year, and if I add my club dues of $40/month, that’s $115 annually. Which is considerably less than the above private option.
I’m waiting to hear from Skywatch on how they cover traditional R/C, since their website specifically talks about “drones”, and only has photos of multi-rotors.
RStrowe
03-05-2021, 02:50 AM
#133
Banned
The fact of the matter is there IS insurance available that isn't via the AMA. Better insurance! This whole sUAS thing is still fairly new and insurance companies like everything else will respond to demand. With some 80% of sUAS recreational operators not belonging to the AMA, I suspect we'll see more options as time goes on.
But it won't happen or at least not as fast as long as people sit on their lazy backsides and do nothing but piss and moan that no one has handed the solutions to them on a silver platter!
03-05-2021, 04:37 AM
#134
Sure! And if you bothered to read you'd find that liability coverage for ones client is available. Now I didn't ask if said client can be the landowner but...............Or maybe contact aviation insurance companies about airfield coverage? Or do you believe airports don't have liability coverage?
The fact of the matter is there IS insurance available that isn't via the AMA. Better insurance! This whole sUAS thing is still fairly new and insurance companies like everything else will respond to demand. With some 80% of sUAS recreational operators not belonging to the AMA, I suspect we'll see more options as time goes on.
But it won't happen or at least not as fast as long as people sit on their lazy backsides and do nothing but piss and moan that no one has handed the solutions to them on a silver platter!
The fact of the matter is there IS insurance available that isn't via the AMA. Better insurance! This whole sUAS thing is still fairly new and insurance companies like everything else will respond to demand. With some 80% of sUAS recreational operators not belonging to the AMA, I suspect we'll see more options as time goes on.
But it won't happen or at least not as fast as long as people sit on their lazy backsides and do nothing but piss and moan that no one has handed the solutions to them on a silver platter!
Last edited by franklin_m; 03-05-2021 at 02:30 PM.
03-05-2021, 06:11 AM
#135
Our insurance in Canada has always been primary. Yearly dues 80 dollars 7.5 million primary insurance and we only have as has been pointed out 1/10 of your membership. For our 80 bucks we enjoy this coverage even when we fly in the US.
Primary insurance is out there you just have to come up with the premiums.
Primary insurance is out there you just have to come up with the premiums.
Last edited by Propworn; 03-05-2021 at 06:14 AM.
03-05-2021, 06:19 AM
#137
Originally Posted by ECHO24
it doesn't exist
Good day.
Astro
Last edited by astrohog; 03-05-2021 at 06:26 AM.
03-05-2021, 06:52 AM
#138
And I do seem to remember, at several points along the process, that the AMA did in fact try to get less restrictive rules through the FAA. Which, in comparison to the NPRM, they did.
And yes sir, I know that in the colloquial we are drone pilots. However, insurance policies are legal documents, and last I checked, legal documents do not rely on ‘colloquialisms’. So I’m simply waiting to hear from this and a few other companies as to whether their (rather expensive) coverage will include all ‘drones’, or just multirotors.
R_Strowe
03-05-2021, 06:57 AM
#139
Senior Member
"I do belong to a group that owns a flying field. We lease it to an AMA chartered club and are quite happy with the arrangements."
"we were able to obtain a private, additional insurance policy that provides coverage at a reasonable cost."
" It only stands to reason that if more clubs were to pursue this, eventually they could group together to get even better volume rates."
All of this is based on something a decade ago, EVEN before 336. We don't know if that club still exists, the field or anything else, but
what for certain does not exist is this supposed club insurance policy at a reasonable cost. That company could be long out of business.
And on that, astrohog is here advocating for clubs to leave AMA. Hogwash.
"we were able to obtain a private, additional insurance policy that provides coverage at a reasonable cost."
" It only stands to reason that if more clubs were to pursue this, eventually they could group together to get even better volume rates."
All of this is based on something a decade ago, EVEN before 336. We don't know if that club still exists, the field or anything else, but
what for certain does not exist is this supposed club insurance policy at a reasonable cost. That company could be long out of business.
And on that, astrohog is here advocating for clubs to leave AMA. Hogwash.
Last edited by ECHO24; 03-05-2021 at 06:59 AM.
03-05-2021, 07:25 AM
#141
Dealing with some personal matters.
And I do seem to remember, at several points along the process, that the AMA did in fact try to get less restrictive rules through the FAA. Which, in comparison to the NPRM, they did.
And yes sir, I know that in the colloquial we are drone pilots. However, insurance policies are legal documents, and last I checked, legal documents do not rely on ‘colloquialisms’. So I’m simply waiting to hear from this and a few other companies as to whether their (rather expensive) coverage will include all ‘drones’, or just multirotors.
R_Strowe
And I do seem to remember, at several points along the process, that the AMA did in fact try to get less restrictive rules through the FAA. Which, in comparison to the NPRM, they did.
And yes sir, I know that in the colloquial we are drone pilots. However, insurance policies are legal documents, and last I checked, legal documents do not rely on ‘colloquialisms’. So I’m simply waiting to hear from this and a few other companies as to whether their (rather expensive) coverage will include all ‘drones’, or just multirotors.
R_Strowe
Astro
03-05-2021, 07:29 AM
#142
"I do belong to a group that owns a flying field. We lease it to an AMA chartered club and are quite happy with the arrangements."
"we were able to obtain a private, additional insurance policy that provides coverage at a reasonable cost."
" It only stands to reason that if more clubs were to pursue this, eventually they could group together to get even better volume rates."
All of this is based on something a decade ago, EVEN before 336. We don't know if that club still exists, the field or anything else, but
what for certain does not exist is this supposed club insurance policy at a reasonable cost. That company could be long out of business.
And on that, astrohog is here advocating for clubs to leave AMA. Hogwash.
"we were able to obtain a private, additional insurance policy that provides coverage at a reasonable cost."
" It only stands to reason that if more clubs were to pursue this, eventually they could group together to get even better volume rates."
All of this is based on something a decade ago, EVEN before 336. We don't know if that club still exists, the field or anything else, but
what for certain does not exist is this supposed club insurance policy at a reasonable cost. That company could be long out of business.
And on that, astrohog is here advocating for clubs to leave AMA. Hogwash.
Astro
UMMM...policy is still in place........
03-05-2021, 08:16 AM
#148
Senior Member
03-05-2021, 08:32 AM
#150
Senior Member