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Old 10-27-2024 | 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie
I recall you once complaining that you went to an AMA field and nobody approached you while you were there. So it stands to reason that on a different occasion you were approached and came off with the same all knowing AMA sucks attitude that you have here and were treated in kind.

And please stop bringing your boat organization into these conversations. They are apples and oranges. A boat has less of a safety aspect to members and spectators, That is unless you’ve seen one fall from the sky at 100 mph. Continuing to bring boats into the conversation only makes you less believable.
So, it's my fault that some fliers were antisocial? Now that is a crock of crap.
How many people do you know of that have died while flying an R/C?
There are a couple of threads in the boating forum that talk about people dying while running boats. This one should tell you something about why we are required to shut down if someone gets too close to the water:
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QUEBRADILLAS - A boy of 10 years of age, identified like Jonathan Perez Valle, who enjoyed pasadĂ*a in the mouth of the Guajataca river, tragically died yesterday when a boat of remote control - of 3 feet of length which they practically handled to two young people in the area him “he nailed” in the chest, due to the high speed at which he moved on the water. Jonathan enjoyed, in the middle of these “unavoidable vacations” due to the fiscal crisis, next to their father Juan Perez Lugo and their uncle Eriberto Valle the Perez, who managed to transfer it to the hospital, where later passed away. The captain Manuel PortalatĂ*n Mercado, head of the CIC in this zone, said that the fatal accident reported last the 3:15 of afternoon and that both suspicious of the facts, although tried to escape, were arrested by the Police. In agreement with the investigation made by the lieutenant Miguel VĂ©lez, director of the Unit of Homicides of Aguadilla, the boy, who resided in the district San Antonio, sector Property in Quebradillas, underwent a deep wound in the chest when the boat of remote control was nailed in the torácica part of its body. At the time of the accident, the father and the uncle of the minor were bathing in the playera area of the place, although they supervised to the boy, who was near them. In afternoon of the both lengthy agents they investigated the case whereas yesterday hoped by the determination of the public prosecutor of turn to decide if would be to him positions.
Old 10-27-2024 | 05:25 AM
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Well…..YES an old saying, If you don’t want any negativity where you are going, DON’T BRING ANY WITH YOU. We both know you’re a bit of a hot head.

The rest of your BS doesn’t justify a response.
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In lieu of commenting, I'll just say that I've seen this cartoon before.......

Old 10-27-2024 | 12:40 PM
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Well…..YES an old saying, If you don’t want any negativity where you are going, DON’T BRING ANY WITH YOU. We both know you’re a bit of a hot head.

The rest of your BS doesn’t justify a response.
You're calling me a "hothead"? You've never met me, so you think you can make that kind of call based on posts? Another crock of crap considering how much you like to throw stones.
As far as the part that "doesn't justify a response", is that because you can't answer the question or that no one has ever died flying an R/C plane?
Old 10-27-2024 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
You're calling me a "hothead"? You've never met me, so you think you can make that kind of call based on posts? Another crock of crap considering how much you like to throw stones.
As far as the part that "doesn't justify a response", is that because you can't answer the question or that no one has ever died flying an R/C plane?
LOL yet at one time you claimed you could tell what happened at an AMA event FROM ONE PICTURE. You’re nothing but a hypocrite. And yes from stories that came straight from you, getting fired over a cell phone, kicked out of a dance club etc. Yes sir, you are a hot head.
Old 10-27-2024 | 03:31 PM
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If you only had the whole story and facts to back up your statements. When you call someone a hypocrite, you had better be looking in the mirror
Old 10-28-2024 | 06:55 AM
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If you only had the whole story and facts to back up your statements.
Funny, isn’t that what I said to you when you started making assumptions about the picture of the young man I posted posing with one of my airplanes?

Now somehow I’m the one who needs to look in the mirror.
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Originally Posted by franklin_m
^^^^ As predicted ...

Yet one cannot (nor should they) ignore the fact that three most senior people have departed, the three most senior people responsible management that generated the RESULTS over the past many years. ED, Assistant ED, and CFO (trio who left in quick succession) have been there together for the last 15 years (since 2009 for the calculations below). Here's their collective RESULTS:
  • Spending EXCEEDED revenue in 10 of the 14 years
  • Net assets DECREASED 43.1%
  • Membership revenue DECREASED 29.8%
  • Total revenue DECREASED 26.9%
  • Event sanctions DECREASED 30.5%
  • Charter club fees DECREASED 21.1%
  • Program Expenses (spending on core mission of AMA) DECREASED 30.5%
  • Non Program Expenses (spending things NOT core to AMA mission) INCREASED 37.9%
  • Total staff compensation INCREASED 22.7%
  • Magazine costs exceeded revenue by $20.1 MILLION dollars (cumulative)

And yet we're to believe this flurry of departures in top positions has nothing to do with the RESULTS?

Old 01-17-2025 | 07:36 AM
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While I'm glad they're having this discussion now, it is clear that this discussion is about 20 years late. I think some members here have mentioned this from time to time.

A couple of items that caught my attention were the mention of XBOX and iphone in the early 2000's. The early 2000's is when I (and many of my AMA friends) were hitting the peak of our modeling. We were in the younger demographics of our clubs, had disposable income, had attained solid flying abilities and were embracing the new technologies that were being introduced into the hobby; i.e. 2.4 ghz, onboard video, new battery and electric motor technologies, ARF's, high-performance and reliable large-scale gas engines, etc. We were the future generation of modeling and we were being chastised by the older demographics, including the AMA executives. 3D flight, drones, foamies and IMAC were all the rage and were drawing a large audience of the general public at 3D events and from viral social media videos. A vast majority of us found that the senior members of our clubs started to feel like the spotlight had shifted from them to the, "young guns" and used their status as senior members and club officers to shift the focus back onto them by shunning this next generation by forcing them out of clubs through targeted rules and "smear campaigns". The aging leadership in Muncie followed suit, alienating MANY members who, otherwise, would have become the next generation of modelers. Until this time, many of us were very much pro-AMA members who carried the value proposition to the general public through the new channels that had developed while mall shows and other traditional public outreach models were on the decline.

When the Federal Government started getting involved with regulating our hobby due to the proliferation of drones and these new technologies, the AMA leadership made the fatal mistake of romancing the drones, instead of educating the Feds on the differences between this new (yet distinctly different) segment of our hobby and proposing separation of two similar hobbies with distinctly different demographics and how they operate and present to the general citizenship of the US.

So here we are, 20+ years late with this discussion and I saw A LOT of comments telling the EB that they do not feel like leadership is engaging with the local clubs (the REAL driving force in promoting the hobby and engaging new members). This is a huge disconnect and still reeks of a top-down type of management style that is a contagious cancer that continues to manifest itself at a club level. Until our elected leaders truly understand that it is the members, not themselves, that are important to the sustenance of our aging hobby, we will continue to show a decline in our membership. Same rings true for our Federal Government. I still heard whispers of gaslighting and the same old, same old during that meeting. Old habits die hard.

I will remain cautiously hopeful that the next generation leadership will simply listen to its constituents and remain a dynamic and elastic leadership that changes with the times rather than pound their chests and rest on their glorified accomplishments of yesteryear.

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Nicely stated.
I have to agree about this at the "federal level". I've been watching some of the Trump cabinet "thrashings" and have seen the old school Democrats doing everything they can to smear and denigrate the candidates. About all they have done is make themselves look foolish and apparently are suffering from "TDS". I've seen it in other local organizations as well. The "old guard" doesn't want to give up power so they do everything they can to stay in power. It's too bad really, to see this happening, since all it does is destroy the organization. Having been on the receiving end of this kind of treatment, I know how bad it can go for the "old guard" if the newer people learn how to "fight back", like the wife and I have had to do on several occasions
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Old 01-26-2025 | 09:29 AM
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Interestingly, our magazine was once part of "AAM" magazine (American Aircraft Modeler) until 1975, when AAM went bankrupt and the AMA again began publishing M.A. om it's own.

From the AMA's website;

"In 1966, the AMA approached the publishers of American Aircraft Modeler (AAM) magazine about the possibility of incorporating a section called AMA News into their magazine rather than printing the small but costly MA. AMA members received AAM featuring AMA News as part of their membership beginning with the July/August 1966 issue and ending with the March 1975 issue. AAM went bankrupt in February of 1975, leaving the AMA with no means to communicate with its members. AMA officers realized that a magazine rather than a newsletter was more beneficial to AMA members, and thus resurrected MA as a magazine. To this day, AMA members continue to receive MA as a member benefit."

Perhaps this is where talk of bankruptcy has come from, someone finding this old story of AAM's demise ?

Otherwise, till more concrete info surfaces, I'll take the above link as;




PS, the above post is not in any means an attack on Flyers1 for posting the link to that discussion, it's simply my statement that the discussion itself doesn't appear to have any factual basis, it appears to be more of a "I heard from so & so who heard it from someone else"........

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What a load of utter crap
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What a load of utter crap
No one claimed it was true, and they said they hoped it wasn't true. It's just a rumor as far as I'm concerned.

"It talked about our academy. Saying no one was joining, or they were leaving and the membership was going down. I guess the monthly catalog isn't paying the way." That sounds like they were talking about any modeling organization.

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Originally Posted by BarracudaHockey
What a load of utter crap
Agreed, should never had been posted without an official confirmation.

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