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Ronnie

Yes with appropriate waivers, lacking that you could fly it at next year's Frank Tiano Giant Planes event in Florida.

Pretty Sweet outfit there... I bet those guys have lotttttsssaaaa hours in this baby. I do think 4 bladed props would have looked better though. Of course they might not be available in the size they needed


Ronnie

Actually no, it exceeds the 100# AMA weight limit.

In all these years I have not paid much attention to that Doc 520 A. However it is an interesting document and well worth the time to at least scan over it.

If for no reason other than one can get the idea of how AMA punishes those modelers willing to step up and follow the Europeans in advancing the sport. Rather SAD, IMO. []

Is Franks event AMA sanctioned? I thought it was going to be "independent"?

You are correct, as I understand it is independent from the AMA.

Yes Horrace, I am certain that is the intent of the document. Perhaps you can take the bull by the horns here and get it changed. Of course that will give you 1 less thing to complain about, but I am confident that you will still find plenty to keep your fingers occupied at the keyboard.

Thanks s-aviator. YUP, good ol' AMA certainly provides unlimited subject matter for that chore. [X(]

No Hoss I just think that Eurpoeans are more keen to the fact that there are walls outside their National flying organization. By the way how did you conclude that their National aeromodeling chartering organization will sponsor and insure all of their flights?

Where did you ever dream up such a topic for a question? I never concluded anything about any OTHER national organization. If I concluded anything in any way shape form or fashion, it is that AMA provides no alternative for AMA members to go beyond the normal box and to investigate the universe beyond the 100 pound model and it makes operation of a model weighing over 55 pounds a chore far too restrictive.

Personally, I don't give a Da_n whether any other organization insures anyone or not. [sm=48_48.gif]

AH, it looks like the day is going to turn into a nice sunny day. Sunlight can be such a beautiful thing. Sorry, Dion, hate to tease you because I do understand your situation prevents your seeing the sunlight. Sad thing, really! [8D]

So what if the AMA limits to 100lbs, what does that have to do with this discussion? Certainly they have to draw the line somewhere.

The solution for being able to fly a plane larger then 100 lbs is simple, get permission from a landowner and fly the airplane till your fingers bleed. Problem solved.

Ha I get it. We are gettnig snow here today so when the bell rings down on exchange floor it's off to hunter mountain for the weekend. Luckily us Yankee's have an array of other hobbies which you people have to jump on an airplane to enjoy.

You know what stl, you're always bragging about how well to do you are, an living the life of luxury, an talking like you have more $$$ than you know what to do with. Thats probably along way from the truth. It sure gets sickening listening to that constantly.

Why don't you do all of us a favor an sit back an be quiet for a while. I think 99% of the arguements here would not happen then.


Ronnie

You see tool that's the good part, it doesn't call a lot of money to go skiing when you only have to drive an hour or so. Resources come cheap here so I guess you only came to your own conclusion.

I figured that if you guys supported at least one of the AMA decisions, then I think the discussions will be of a less argumentative nature.

So in light of that, how are you going to help promote the AMA's new Park Pilot program?

I am going to buy me a park flyer go to the park and fly it. I suppose that would be what is expected for folks to do. I gots me a good slow flying plane just for having some park fun. More of them there girly type girls around the parks too.

I see a new country song in the making here: "She thinks my park Flyer's sexy"..

She thinks my Parkie is sexy
but she's got a teenage kid,
She says he didnt touch it
but I know the lil' brat did.

She swears she will buddy box some day
and fly a foamie by my side.

She thinks my Parkie is sexy
with the Pooh Bear pilot head,
I tried to FanFold one for her,
but she wants an ARF instead.

She swears she will buddy box some day
and fly a foamie by my side.

Me personally, Not one thing. I will work against it as I feel it is discriminitory (against the small glow engine crowd), promotes a tiered system, works to break up the simple concept that "The AMA is about supporting model aviation as whole, not just one aspect of it", and pushes the organization in the wrong direction...that of becoming an insurance company instead of a modeling organization.

meanwhile, back at the topic of this Not Parkflier thread...

Ronnie puts up a C130 that is like 170lb
Red says it would need a 55+ waiver
Steve says its over 100lb AMA limit
Hoss doesnt dispute either of those statements

so to stay on topic, talking about the 170lb C130 being able to fly at AMA fields (Muncie):
Well, anyone dispute the 100lb cap?

And what is with Steve's 100lb cap keeping all AMA'ers from reaching that level of modeling?
Some subjects are plainly really big, and a 1/6th or 1/10th scale makes models that are plain big too. How do AMA'ers get to model in 1/6th scale their warbirds, their Caps, their jets, and their cargos, all in a 1/6th fleet? Is having a 1/6 fleet not modeling?

http://www.modelaircraft.org/PDF-files/520-A.pdf

Spcifies the max at 100lbs.

There's nothing stopping anyone. In fact it's even easier then the guys in GB, we don't have to register 20kg rc aircraft as regular aircraft as they do with their version of the FAA. I guess the Brits are just smarter then us, well some of us.

AMA safety code is not law, it's a set of guidelines that grant you insurance if you follow it. If you don't follow it, you don't get insurance, that's it, don't overthink it. Get permission from a site owner and fly your plane.

But anyone looking to take a risk flying their own plane larger then 100lbs is smart enough, or should be smart enough to know that you better get your own insurance. How much did it cost for the plane in the first place? 30 grand? More?

The question wasn't whether we could do it. The question is, could you fly it at the AMA Muncie site?

No, Steve already confirmed it. What's so hard not believe about that. You got your answer and still want to debate it?

The AMA is the site owner and they are going to, of course, live by their own set of guidelines. It certainly wouldn't behoove them or set a good example to this rough crowd by not setting some kind of standard. Next thing you know they would be shooting paintballs at their planes and setting them on fire as well.

I don't, but based on your post with all of the "go ahead and do it" info it appeared as you missed the answer...or the question...or both.

Or the turnip truck.....


Ronnie