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"you wanna know where in TX? you do the legwork and find out. they exist "
So another words "you don't know" You started this tread "Is the AMA a great value" you think it is . I don't I don't need the magazine. I don't need the insurance. I don't need the Muncie site. The only thing they give me is a "pass" to fly at events and flying fields. Whats so great about that? You refuse to answer why you think that funding local sites would be a misappropriation of funds. How about the magazine our dues fund that. What about the Muncie site our dues fund that. As a paying member of the AMA I feel that maybe some sort of a change may be needed. The average age is not going down is it? If things remain the same and this same old "its always bee that way" crap continues the end may be closer then we all realize. |
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ORIGINAL: SoCal GliderGuider ORIGINAL: model.flyer so, just as I said, the club and/or the landlord made the decision to protect their butts in your area. so, why is it you are whinning about the AMA? you wanna know where in TX? you do the legwork and find out. they exist |
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Your avoiding the issue. Now who's a troll?
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ORIGINAL: rcmiket So another words "you don't know" You started this tread "Is the AMA a great value" you think it is . I don't I don't need the magazine. I don't need the insurance. I don't need the Muncie site. The only thing they give me is a "pass" to fly at events and flying fields. Whats so great about that? You refuse to answer why you think that funding local sites would be a misappropriation of funds. How about the magazine our dues fund that. What about the Muncie site our dues fund that. As a paying member of the AMA I feel that maybe some sort of a change may be needed. The average age is not going down is it? If things remain the same and this same old "its always bee that way" crap continues the end may be closer then we all realize. My answer to why I don't feel the AMA should be in the business of funding/financing flying sites is that it's using the memberships money to benefit a very few! However, if the AMA is doing this through loans and generating interest income for the organization, I am o.k. with this! As a dues paying member, you have every right to attempt to change how the AMA conducts itself. I suggest, if your as upset as you seem about the AMA, you get on the stick and change it. |
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ORIGINAL: rcmiket Your avoiding the issue. Now who's a troll? I have avoided no issue. I do know some sites in TX, but you need to learn to track down that type of info for yourself. Try calling Sandy Frank as a start. as mode.one pointed out, you need to practice your reading and comprehension skills. I did not start this thread. ps decided to be nice and give you a lead in finding sites in TX. Tony, AKA and AMA# YNOT flys at such a site in TX. He participates on this forum. Track him down for starters. |
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ORIGINAL: model.flyer ORIGINAL: rcmiket Your avoiding the issue. Now who's a troll? I have avoided no issue. I do know some sites in TX, but you need to learn to track down that type of info for yourself. Try calling Sandy Frank as a start. as mode.one pointed out, you need to practice your reading and comprehension skills. I did not start this thread. |
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ORIGINAL: SoCal GliderGuider no one cares. a mind reading troll LOL |
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ORIGINAL: model.flyer ORIGINAL: SoCal GliderGuider no one cares. a mind reading troll LOL |
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ORIGINAL: rcmiket rcmikejet, I am a natural-born citizen of the great Republic of Texas, which is signed on to an organization called the United States of America. I do not like such "services" that this organization funds such as all the liberal do-gooders living off the public dole, millions of other citizens that refuse to work and donate to the organization, sending our better youth to fight in wars which the organization's powers have no intention of winning (Korea, Vietnam, Iraq) Foreign Aid, financial control of state educational systems, and a host of others, YET I am conscripted to "donate" to the "voluntary" Federal Income Tax each year an amount equal to many many times what the AMA charges me to be a member of its organization. In addition just how many flying facilities have YOU funded? If you had any clue reference the cost of acquiring and developing real estate, especially in the vicinity of larger cities, then even YOU might not be so hot to make such a remark concerning AMA FUNDING local flying sites. Now if you reverse the question, the answer is one (1). That's my share, and your cue. You're on stage now!! So whats your point? Point 1: Helping the funding of a national organization does not mean that organization must perform to your specific wishes. Point 2: You want AMA to fund local flying sites. (In fact there is an existing program to be awarded some amounts to a club to build and/or repair flying sites.) If you P & M about AMA expenditures reference Muncie and funding local sites, I say you don't know diddly about obtaining and developing land to build a flying site. Darn, I thought anyone could readily comprehend those points. OH WELL, there I go again giving credit when no credit is due!:eek: |
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ORIGINAL: SoCal GliderGuider Since all of your 24 posts are in the AMA forum it's obvious who the troll is. As to your opinion; no one cares. I'll save you the trouble too, 10 of my last 50 posts have been in the AMA forum, the other 40 are spread over 3 other forums. |
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The following 2 posts reveal either two names for one poster or we have a bit of plagiarism within the ranks.
First is post 55 and second is post 99. ORIGINAL: Mr67Stang ORIGINAL: Hossfly rcmikejet, I am a natural-born citizen of the great Republic of Texas, which is signed on to an organization called the United States of America. I do not like such "services" that this organization funds such as all the liberal do-gooders living off the public dole, millions of other citizens that refuse to work and donate to the organization, sending our better youth to fight in wars which the organization's powers have no intention of winning (Korea, Vietnam, Iraq) Foreign Aid, financial control of state educational systems, and a host of others, YET I am conscripted to "donate" to the "voluntary" Federal Income Tax each year an amount equal to many many times what the AMA charges me to be a member of its organization. In addition just how many flying facilities have YOU funded? If you had any clue reference the cost of acquiring and developing real estate, especially in the vicinity of larger cities, then even YOU might not be so hot to make such a remark concerning AMA FUNDING local flying sites. Now if you reverse the question, the answer is one (1). That's my share, and your cue. [>:] You're on stage now!! [X(] rcmiket: #99 From: El Paso, TX, USA I certainly hope your comments here are to show a shocking corolation to a line of thinking about AMA costs and apropriations. Because if you honestly feel that way about the United States and the "Republic of Texas" you can remove that avatar of yours because that 2nd amendment belongs to the United Stated of America NOT some so said republic. And I am a member of the US military and I support the efforts and ideals that the current administration of this great nation and what it is trying to get done despite the efforts of the general public to sling bipartisan mud around the real issues of national security and Homeland Defence. To think any nation or person would enter into a conflict without intended victory is rediculous. Do yourself a favor and turn off the Communist News Network and have a little faith that the leaders of this nation want what is best for it, yesturday, today and tommorow, reguardless of their party affiliation. Or of course... you can go start your own country. In the next three mentioned set of war-games the USA was and is both afraid to win and afraid of hurting someone other than the volunteers that have to take the load and be the victims of their "leadership". You say, "To think any nation or person would enter into a conflict without intended victory is rediculous." Not nearly as ridiculous as (1) having to weigh the presented evidence which definitely forces such conclusion, and (2) watching our national leadership submit to such ridiculous action. Pi-- Poor! Yep, during the Vietnam war games, when I wore the uniform, I was more than a bit mad at the Hippy generation. Now I think maybe they had better vision than I did with my 20-10 pilot eyes. :eek: And BTW, that avatar is from the NRA Second Amendment Task Force which I just happen to be a Charter Founder and sustaining member of. edit: spelling and rephrase a sentence |
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ORIGINAL: Phaedrus-MMVI Now that's just rich. 227 of your last 232 posts have been in this forum, so I hardly think you want to use that as criteria for what is, and is not, a troll!!!! I'll save you the trouble too, 10 of my last 50 posts have been in the AMA forum, the other 40 are spread over 3 other forums. Oh Billy! I didn't think you cared!! Actually you are wrong. I counted back about a year and found that out of 221 posts 112 were in the AMA forum with 109 in a few others. Oh dear! Wrong again! |
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ORIGINAL: SoCal GliderGuider ORIGINAL: Phaedrus-MMVI Now that's just rich. 227 of your last 232 posts have been in this forum, so I hardly think you want to use that as criteria for what is, and is not, a troll!!!! I'll save you the trouble too, 10 of my last 50 posts have been in the AMA forum, the other 40 are spread over 3 other forums. Oh Billy! I didn't think you cared!! Actually you are wrong. I counted back about a year and found that out of 221 posts 112 were in the AMA forum with 109 in a few others. Oh dear! Wrong again! http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/sear...l+GliderGuider But the real point is that it is silly for you to try to discount another person for the number of posts in the AMA area. But then again, you never let the facts distort your sense of reality, do you?? |
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ORIGINAL: model.flyer ORIGINAL: rcmiket Your avoiding the issue. Now who's a troll? Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black to me. Troll away my friend as you are all too good at it. |
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But the real point is that it is silly for you to try to discount another person for the number of posts in the AMA area STL, and our 'new' pal Model.Flyer .... who, for being here just 3 or 4 days has a working knowlege of the Clubhouse Basin thread, the STL Credibity quotes of mine, and Event Listing Fees thread. Fast reader, or had a lot of free time to kill.... is the Event Listing Fee Gripe thread even on the first page of most recent threads? I'm sure his speed reading will find my post somewhere about the Texans posting to a bunch of different forums vs the STL method of just here to argue in the AMA forum. Its nice to see the AMA Forum Classic back in action: total devestation of a thread in no time flat. |
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ORIGINAL: Hossfly The following 2 posts reveal either two names for one poster or we have a bit of plagiarism within the ranks. First is post 55 and second is post 99. ORIGINAL: Mr67Stang ORIGINAL: Hossfly rcmikejet, I am a natural-born citizen of the great Republic of Texas, which is signed on to an organization called the United States of America. I do not like such "services" that this organization funds such as all the liberal do-gooders living off the public dole, millions of other citizens that refuse to work and donate to the organization, sending our better youth to fight in wars which the organization's powers have no intention of winning (Korea, Vietnam, Iraq) Foreign Aid, financial control of state educational systems, and a host of others, YET I am conscripted to "donate" to the "voluntary" Federal Income Tax each year an amount equal to many many times what the AMA charges me to be a member of its organization. In addition just how many flying facilities have YOU funded? If you had any clue reference the cost of acquiring and developing real estate, especially in the vicinity of larger cities, then even YOU might not be so hot to make such a remark concerning AMA FUNDING local flying sites. Now if you reverse the question, the answer is one (1). That's my share, and your cue. [>:] You're on stage now!! [X(] rcmiket: #99 From: El Paso, TX, USA I certainly hope your comments here are to show a shocking corolation to a line of thinking about AMA costs and apropriations. Because if you honestly feel that way about the United States and the "Republic of Texas" you can remove that avatar of yours because that 2nd amendment belongs to the United Stated of America NOT some so said republic. And I am a member of the US military and I support the efforts and ideals that the current administration of this great nation and what it is trying to get done despite the efforts of the general public to sling bipartisan mud around the real issues of national security and Homeland Defence. To think any nation or person would enter into a conflict without intended victory is rediculous. Do yourself a favor and turn off the Communist News Network and have a little faith that the leaders of this nation want what is best for it, yesturday, today and tommorow, reguardless of their party affiliation. Or of course... you can go start your own country. In the next three mentioned set of war-games the USA was and is both afraid to win and afraid of hurting someone other than the volunteers that have to take the load and be the victims of their "leadership". You say, "To think any nation or person would enter into a conflict without intended victory is rediculous." Not nearly as ridiculous as (1) having to weigh the presented evidence which definitely forces such conclusion, and (2) watching our national leadership submit to such ridiculous action. Pi-- Poor! Yep, during the Vietnam war games, when I wore the uniform, I was more than a bit mad at the Hippy generation. Now I think maybe they had better vision than I did with my 20-10 pilot eyes. :eek: And BTW, that avatar is from the NRA Second Amendment Task Force which I just happen to be a Charter Founder and sustaining member of. edit: spelling and rephrase a sentence |
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ORIGINAL: Phaedrus-MMVI No idea what you are looking at, but since 3/23/2004 You have only had 5 posts in any forum besides this one. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/sear...l+GliderGuider But the real point is that it is silly for you to try to discount another person for the number of posts in the AMA area. But then again, you never let the facts distort your sense of reality, do you?? Still wrong Billy. |
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If you would try reading other folks posts instead of counting your own, you might have something useful to say someday. You can put your socks and shoes back on now.
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ORIGINAL: SoCal GliderGuider ORIGINAL: Phaedrus-MMVI No idea what you are looking at, but since 3/23/2004 You have only had 5 posts in any forum besides this one. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/sear...l+GliderGuider But the real point is that it is silly for you to try to discount another person for the number of posts in the AMA area. But then again, you never let the facts distort your sense of reality, do you?? Still wrong Billy. |
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Well, the election is over, the politicking will stop on the T.V.; but, will it stop here? PLEASE!! If you have real beefs about the AMA please bring them forward. Many complain about AMA's Model Aviation Magazine; but, no one is specific about what's wrong with it. Personally I am interested in what is going on in the topics the magazine covers, if your a model builder/flyer, why aren't you
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Mode One, MA is interesting when there's a good article. What is the frequency of that? Every other month? Naw, I don't really care about making the magazine optional or discontinuing it. It's a pretty good communication tool in the right hands. The real thing that bothers me about the AMA is that all the things they claim as "services" are usually rendered by the clubs or the members themselves. There is either a lot of wasted funds or a complete lack of communication between Muncie and the members. I sure can't figure out where my dues are spent. Does anyone have proof that the AMA is a real value?
If you haven't figured it out, I like the idea behind the AMA. It's my opinion that it is poorly ran and I would like to see things change. Can't do that from the outside nearly as easy. |
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ORIGINAL: Phaedrus-MMVI I just cannot imagine what you are looking at. 7 pages of your posts at 35 per page and only 5 NOT in the AMA forum. SO I am done here. Continue your usual obtuse denial of reality Hugh. It never ceases to amaze me. And none of that changes the fact that you have no room to call out someone over the number of posts in the AMA forums. Yes I can "call" some one. Just as they can classify others too. Your actions as well as the recent AMA shill just points out the lengths some will go through to cover up AMA's blatant hypocrisy. |
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ORIGINAL: SoCal GliderGuider ORIGINAL: Phaedrus-MMVI I just cannot imagine what you are looking at. 7 pages of your posts at 35 per page and only 5 NOT in the AMA forum. SO I am done here. Continue your usual obtuse denial of reality Hugh. It never ceases to amaze me. And none of that changes the fact that you have no room to call out someone over the number of posts in the AMA forums. Yes I can "call" some one. Just as they can classify others too. Your actions as well as the recent AMA shill just points out the lengths some will go through to cover up AMA's blatant hypocrisy. |
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ORIGINAL: model.flyer See, you make no sense whatsoever. Everyone knows our Greek friend is an AMA AVP and as such certainly does not deserve to be called a shill. You, on the other hand are nothing but a nonothnig troll. Why Bill continures to feed you is beyond me. |
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ORIGINAL: ptulmer Mode One, MA is interesting when there's a good article. What is the frequency of that? Every other month? Naw, I don't really care about making the magazine optional or discontinuing it. It's a pretty good communication tool in the right hands. The real thing that bothers me about the AMA is that all the things they claim as "services" are usually rendered by the clubs or the members themselves. There is either a lot of wasted funds or a complete lack of communication between Muncie and the members. I sure can't figure out where my dues are spent. Does anyone have proof that the AMA is a real value? If you haven't figured it out, I like the idea behind the AMA. It's my opinion that it is poorly ran and I would like to see things change. Can't do that from the outside nearly as easy. If you don't like the way it is done, run for office or at least back a candidate. Sitting on the sidelines complaining will accomplish nothing. Whinning about the content of the mag is like whinning about the weather. Wait a while and it will change. It has been doing so, like every other magazine regardless of the topic, for years. If you really think you have something to offer, start writing and submit the article. If you do not have the talent to do so, encourage your friends to do so. IF the AMA were to cease to exist tomorrow, the most obvious sign would be the locking of gates on flying sites. Landlord insurance makes about 2500 sites available. Replancing that insurance would be next to impossible. Call your agent and try to even get a quote for anything remotely approaching the coverage landlords have under the AMA supplied insurance. Saying it can be done is not doing it. Make the call and see how easy it is to duplicate the coverage and report back. Ask the Ohmahawks WHY they made the change to their club. You want proof? make the call. Prove it to yourself and report the results back here. |
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