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Old 10-23-2010, 12:13 PM
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Just opened up my new Redwing 50cc Sboch. The packaging was double boxed and came in a single box. The gorilla baggage handlers missed another opportunity to break things. Everything looks like it is in one piece. Closer inspection will take place when I go over the covering.
Here is what the packaging looked like.
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Old 10-23-2010, 12:19 PM
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She's a big bird, huh? I'll be watching you assembly this one too!
Old 10-23-2010, 12:20 PM
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She's a big bird, huh? I'll be watching you assembly this one too!
Boy you are fast. I just posted it. I really enjoy your comments so I hope you will participate in this one also.

I'll put the two fuses together later for comparison.
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Absolutely! I really like the Red Wing planes, and Tim Pastor is a stand-up guy. I am still having tons of fun with my MX2, but it is sadly getting close to winter up here in Minnesota. [&o] Time to put up the glow and gas and break out the electrics to play with. It's just too cold in the winter to start the engines...
Old 10-23-2010, 12:37 PM
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Absolutely! I really like the Red Wing planes, and Tim Pastor is a stand-up guy. I am still having tons of fun with my MX2, but it is sadly getting close to winter up here in Minnesota. [&o] Time to put up the glow and gas and break out the electrics to play with. It's just too cold in the winter to start the engines...
It don't quite get as cold in Indiana and I was thinking about making some Skis for my planes for the winter. We do get your weather from time to time. Brrrr! We also get some better days more often here. If we can get out maybe twice a month during the winter it may be worth a shot.
Old 10-23-2010, 12:38 PM
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I'm very interested in seeing how you go. With the good experience of the smaller Sbach, this one ought to be excellent!
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nice looking Sbach i love those lines
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Just opened up my new Redwing 50cc Sboch. The packaging was double boxed and came in a single box. The gorilla baggage handlers missed another opportunity to break things. Everything looks like it is in one piece. Closer inspection will take place when I go over the covering.
Here is what the packaging looked like.
Tom, you are not wasting any time, and the big Sbach looks great. I noticed from the box cover whats look like a fine looking Sukhoi Su-26M2 in the Honda scheme. That's what I love to get my hands on. I was once looking at the Honda Sukhoi from WildHare but they are out of production maybe Tim will bring this one to the US soon, I can't wait.
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Old 10-23-2010, 01:07 PM
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Well the 30cc is actually my sons now. I thought once they grow up. Well never mind. I liked the little one so much that I wanted a bigger one since I had a YD Aero 56 to put in it. I like the bottom of the wing better on the 50cc. I think it will be easier for old eyes to see the contrast.
The box is very colorful and ketches your eyes right away. You know how I feel about Hondas so that's not exactly my favorite scheme. But I do like red.
Old 10-23-2010, 01:11 PM
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Your new plane sure looks good. Bet it will be just as good as the smaller one. Buy the way your YDA-56 is breaking in just fine my YAK loves it.
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Your new plane sure looks good. Bet it will be just as good as the smaller one. Buy the way your YDA-56 is breaking in just fine my YAK loves it.
Yeah, it'll be snowing soon and you won't be needing it so enjoy it for now.
Old 10-23-2010, 02:09 PM
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My wif left me home alone for a while so I decided to mount the landing gear. It is the firs thing I like to do on a build since it keeps the plane from rolling around.

I opened up the landing gear bag and I noticed right away that there were 4 nuts missing to mount the wheel pants with. THere also wasn't any flat washers to put between the gear and the head of the bolt or the nut. They may be in the other bag but I haven't opened it up yet cause I don't want things rolling all over the place. I got some washers that I had and used them. The thing to know about flat washers is that they are not all flat. The ones I have are the ones with a crown on one side.When you are using it on Fiberglass or Carbon Fiber. You need the put the crown up side towards the glass. That way the edge of the washer don't cut into the softer material and work its way through from vibration. That is what I did.
I had some paint inside of the axel hole in the C/F landing gear. Took an 8mm drill bit, cleaned it out and everything fit fine. need a 13mm and a 12mm wrench to tighten the axle. I really like this landing gear so far. It has a real nice shape to it. Looks sturdy and it's light.
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Old 10-23-2010, 02:37 PM
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Subscribed! Your gonna love this plane!! The wheel pants shouldn't need nuts they have blind nuts already installed on the inside, are they should.
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I opened up the landing gear bag and I noticed right away that there were 4 nuts missing to mount the wheel pants with. THere also wasn't any flat washers to put between the gear and the head of the bolt or the nut. They may be in the other bag but I haven't opened it up yet cause I don't want things rolling all over the place.
Tom,

When I assemble ARFs, I normally have one of those $2 plastic boxes with dividers that you can pick up from discount stores and empty ALL the accessories bags into different compartments.
I find this easier and I can also at a glance see which bolts, nuts, washers etc I will use and which I will replace.

Regardless of the quality of included accessories, I have a habit of discarding any bolts and nuts thaqt are for high-stress areas like Landing Gear, Engine Mounts etc and replace with quality high-tensile bolts I source from a local hardware supplier
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Well the 30cc is actually my sons now. I thought once they grow up. Well never mind. I liked the little one so much that I wanted a bigger one since I had a YD Aero 56 to put in it. I like the bottom of the wing better on the 50cc. I think it will be easier for old eyes to see the contrast.
The box is very colorful and ketches your eyes right away. You know how I feel about Hondas so that's not exactly my favorite scheme. But I do like red.
I know what you mean, but you must agree that red on top and white on the bottom is super contrasty. Maybe we can get some GM decals..............
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Had some errands to run this afternoon. But managed to do something else. I found these retainer clips for your extensions so I had to check to see how they work. They are easy to clip but are locked in securely. So it gets a thumbs up.[sm=thumbs_up.gif]
I found an empty margarin bowl that my wife had hidden from me. But she don't know I took it so its OK.[sm=wink_smile.gif]
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Old 10-23-2010, 08:44 PM
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Now for the thumbs down.[sm=thumbs_down.gif] The fit of the cowl wasn't very good. The two tabs sticking out so you can mount the bottom screws from the out side, was holding the cowl from fitting on properly. Because I don't like to mount cowls from the outside I decided to redesign it. I cut the two tabs off and made two new ones that I added on to the cowl ring with Epoxy. This cowl originally had 6 locations to mount the cowl. I'm not going to use two of them the access hole is through the wing opening and you have to take the wing off in order to get to it. I like my life simpler then that. I'm also going to replace the screws with Socket head screws. They are also easier to work with. So my thumbs Down[sm=thumbs_down.gif]became a thumbs up[sm=thumbs_up.gif]. I'm happy again.[sm=teeth_smile.gif]

The engine compartment is already fuel proofed.[sm=thumbs_up.gif]
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You might want to watch that word snow. It might be white but it`s a dirty word. Also I noticed that one black wire had a cut in it. Might want to tape it but I know you already saw it.
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You might want to watch that word snow. It might be white but it`s a dirty word. Also I noticed that one black wire had a cut in it. Might want to tape it but I know you already saw it.
Yes I did see it. Its just an extension form the used pile. I'm not using it in the plane. It was just there to show the connection with the keeper clips.
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Now for the thumbs down.[sm=thumbs_down.gif] The fit of the cowl wasn't very good. The two tabs sticking out so you can mount the bottom screws from the out side, was holding the cowl from fitting on properly. Because I don't like to mount cowls from the outside I decided to redesign it. I cut the two tabs off and made two new ones that I added on to the cowl ring with Epoxy. This cowl originally had 6 locations to mount the cowl. I'm not going to use two of them the access hole is through the wing opening and you have to take the wing off in order to get to it. I like my life simpler then that. I'm also going to replace the screws with Socket head screws. They are also easier to work with. So my thumbs Down[sm=thumbs_down.gif]became a thumbs up[sm=thumbs_up.gif]. I'm happy again.[sm=teeth_smile.gif]

The engine compartment is already fuel proofed.[sm=thumbs_up.gif]
Nice work.....Just may have to copy your idea on my Goldberg Ultimate. I will have to build a cowl ring though. Might be a fun project.
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Making a new ring should be easy. You already have the outline when you take the cowl off. Card board templates are easy to make. You only need 4 6-32 screws on a 50cc size plane. 4-40 will work but 6-32 wrenches are longer and easier to use.
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Thanks Old Tom....I think that I will do just that. What is the best way to secure the cowl ring to the cowl. Sorry to sound dumb, but this is something that I have never done. Thanks in advance.
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Thanks Old Tom....I think that I will do just that. What is the best way to secure the cowl ring to the cowl. Sorry to sound dumb, but this is something that I have never done. Thanks in advance.
The one time that I did that I put wax paper on the plane side. Located the cowl in the right place. Then I used medium CA with accelerator and spot glued it. Hold the ring in place with the mounting screws and the cowl with masking tape. Once the CA is cured take it off and lay a nice bead of epoxy on the front side of the ring. If you wish you can put some F/G cloth in a few spots to give it strength.
There may be different glues that work better, but I don't know about them.
Hope that helps.
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