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Old 01-10-2006, 03:24 PM
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I just picked up a GP Ryan STA 1.20 that has never had an engine mounted in it . Although is about 2 pounds lighter I have heard good things about running a 1.20 as long as you aren't running pontoons, then they recommend a 1.50 due to drag. I think I will run the Brison 2.4 in the Waco and see what happens. It seems as though the Brison puts out more thrust and is lighter...any information of the speed and handling with this engine is appreciated.

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Hi Bob-- the Brison 2.4 is a fine engine, but I don't think comparing it to a 1.20 or even a 1.5 is fair--in power or other areas. It is my personal opinion that it may be a bit big for a 1.20 airframe.

To get a better response on this question, you may try a search on the GP Ryan or start another thread. I believe most "lookers" here probably do not have first hand experience with the Ryan and that is the reason for the lack of response.
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I'm sorry, I must not have made myself clear enough. I am putting the 1.20 in the Ryan and want to put the 2.4 In a 1/4scale Kangke Waco. I agree, I think the 2.4 in the Ryan would go way beyong over kill.
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I've seen the 2.4 in a Waco (mine has a ZDZ40 in it) and performance was awesome. I'd do it! Be prepared for a very fun airplane
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I'm sorry, I must not have made myself clear enough. I am putting the 1.20 in the Ryan and want to put the 2.4 In a 1/4scale Kangke Waco. I agree, I think the 2.4 in the Ryan would go way beyong over kill.
I have the Brison 2.4 with B&B smoke on mine and it's a great combo. The Brison is just such an easy engine to set up...
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Old 01-12-2006, 08:28 PM
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I just picked up a GP Ryan STA 1.20 that has never had an engine mounted in it . Although is about 2 pounds lighter I have heard good things about running a 1.20 as long as you aren't running pontoons, then they recommend a 1.50 due to drag. I think I will run the Brison 2.4 in the Waco and see what happens. It seems as though the Brison puts out more thrust and is lighter...any information of the speed and handling with this engine is appreciated.

Bob

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In your gallery you show a Ryan with engine on floats & a Kangke WACO Both set up RTF. Are these your's or picks of planes you are setting up...

PS like the looks of the RYAN on floats.

Also I'll bite... Whats the login name mean?
Old 01-12-2006, 08:52 PM
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The Ryan has Commander floats on it and a 1.50...sorry to say that the plane shown is not mine but I do have one, just no floats as of yet. The Waco is sitting and waiting for an engine, not a money problem just don't know what to get. I love the look of the Brison 2.4 but I'm not sure about the quality now. Buteos is the family the Red tail Hawk is a member of, she is shown in my photos...I fly her when I run out of fuel for my planes If you know of anyone who has a 2.4 (Pre-Canada) for sale I would be interested. Oh, my wife was from Batavia and I lived in Fredonia....small world! Another thing....I wanted to get Waco in Cream...they no longer offer it.....one way to get the sales started then...too bad...
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I was very happy when I found one in cream WACO. I painted the brown with Latex house paint and came out great. I have 2 Brison one I bausght last year and an older one Love them both. I know Brison is going through some changes. Haven't been paying attention to what's going on with them. Had a friend tell me about it. I will be watching the Kangke Waco planes and if I get a chance to pic up a second one for a great price I will buy it. Want to make one in Burgendy...
Old 01-12-2006, 09:33 PM
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Kanke is pushing ZDZ engines, no mention of Brison....the same guy that first brought out the Waco on RCU placed a report on the ZDZ site. So far I have written to Kanke twice asking about products and two times I have been told they are not available.
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I just spent an hour reading a couple threads about the changes that have happened with the Brison 2.4 engine. For the most part the quality is still the same. They have gone to a syncro ignition and the carb set up is different. From what I read the midrange transiton isn't as good and getting some popping and hesatation through transition. They can be switched back to the old style but why should you have to pay to have that done. The most basic change needed is needles .... I don't work on engines and have not clue... They are being built in Cananada now. I love my Brison engines but If I had to order today I probably would go with a differnt engine.
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What would you recommend????
Old 01-13-2006, 07:07 AM
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What would you recommend????
If you know someone who can work on the carbs it's only a few bucks to change. The problem lies in what do you get for $400 and as light as Brison. Taurus engines / First Place / DA / ZDZ. not in any order. I would have to do more checking on them. One of the above. Problem in my case is they are all more expensive.
Old 01-13-2006, 11:07 AM
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Hey guys,
I just wanted to comment on the brison 2.4 with the new ignition. I bought my waco and brison 2.4 with the new ignition as a combo deal directly from Kangke for $699.00. They have since went up to 799.00.
As far as the engines performance goes, I couldn't be more pleased. They motor has run flawless right out of the box. I have 3 flights on it and they are no popping or hesitation and it pulls the plane vertical right on out of sight. With the pitts muffler and a ZingerPro 20x6 I'm turning nearly 7400 rpm. I could't be more pleased this this engine and plane.

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Old 01-13-2006, 06:00 PM
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Thanks Bluehawkbm, I was interested in knowing if they got the problems worked out or if I would end up with nothing but problems. Are you using the side mount or rear mount pitts muffler and does it have a smoke tap?

Bob
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Buteos,

I am running the rear mount pitts muffler and yes the muffler does have a smoke tap although I am not using it. The only problem with this muffler verses the side mount is that you do have to do some cutting on the firewall and the bottom of the plane to get it to fit. Its not bad though and the pitts muffler sounds good and is probably quieter that the side mount. The waco with this motor is a great combonation. I have not turned a screw on the motor and it runs great and starts easy. The low end is probably just a bit rich since it takes it just a few seconds to idle down but no hesitation at all when I go to full throttle. Its a smooth powerful motor. I love mine. Let me know how if you get one for your waco and how you like it. Hope I was some help.

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Old 01-13-2006, 08:53 PM
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Its too bad that you couldn't have spaced the engine out far enough to eliminate having to cut. I am waiting to hear from a person on the 2.4, he is a dealer and quoted me the old price...we will see........have any photos?
Old 01-22-2006, 06:19 PM
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Well I fianally got a short video from this past summer... Was one of the first times using the smoke system I installed. I just haven't got it hosted yet. Tried to send it to my RCCLUB and have them host it but can't seem to get it to attach and send in email. Still working on it.
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Well I fianally got a short video from this past summer... Was one of the first times using the smoke system I installed. I just haven't got it hosted yet. Tried to send it to my RCCLUB and have them host it but can't seem to get it to attach and send in email. Still working on it.
Finally got it loaded... LOL Had to start my own site... That was fun!
Nothing real fancy for flying.
www.nobullsales.com/WACOVIDEO.html
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Very fun to watch! Thank YOU.
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Well done, can't wait for spring to try mine.
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Was looking at a few Places I visited and found some pics they posted on their site.
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Was looking at a few Places I visited and found some pics they posted on their site.
Couple more
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Here are a couple pics of the tank and smoke set-up.
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nice video. Is your smoke tank like 4 gallons? Seems like your smoke was on for 10 minutes straight.


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