Super Stunts 60 setup
01-13-2004 | 07:00 PM
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Super Stunts 60 setup
Hello Gurus
Hoping you can help me out here. I've done a preliminary search but able to find answers to all my issues so here goes....
Santa has arrived late, in the form of my fantastic wife, who yesterday revealed a brand new Super Stunts 60 with engine and radio. (I knew I married her for a reason.)
My basic question is: How do I set this model up? It's a bit more complicated than that so I'll break it down.
a) Rudder and nose landing gear
I don't want to convert this to a tail dragger but I don't want to connect the nose gear to the same servo as the rudder (because I don't like the control rod setup...too much angle and run on the nose gear rod). Therefore, I was going to use a separate (smaller) servo for the nose landing gear and somehow 'link' this servo to the rudder. How is this best accomplished, keeping the following in mind?
b) Aileron and flaps
Can someone recommend the most versatile setup for this? I was thinking of somehow 'linking' the flap servos to the aileron somehow so that during 'normal' flight I could select the flaps to act in concert with the ailerons. ie. full wing span ailerons. I also thought that I could then 'flip a switch' and have only the outer surfaces to act as ailerons and the inner ones revert to flap function only. Am I dreaming? Perhaps there's enough aileron there without doing this? Perhaps there is a better setup thank the one I conconcted here?
c) Flap control throws
Any recommended throw measurements? Not mentioned in the instructions.
I would appreciate any feedback. I've read about "Y' connectors and servo reversers....all new to me...except the use of Y connectors for linking 2 normal aileron actions. If I sound like a numpty, it's because all of my previous modelling has been perfomed with a basic 4 channel radio. Reeeal basic. I've never used a computer radio before. Which brings me to the next question.
d) Radio
Wifey got me a JR PCM 9X. I don't know much about it but it looks like it's up to the task. More switches and buttons than 747 flight deck it seems.
Manual is in Japanese but I like a challenge.
I would really appreciate the help. Many thanks to you all.
Tamey
Hoping you can help me out here. I've done a preliminary search but able to find answers to all my issues so here goes....
Santa has arrived late, in the form of my fantastic wife, who yesterday revealed a brand new Super Stunts 60 with engine and radio. (I knew I married her for a reason.)
My basic question is: How do I set this model up? It's a bit more complicated than that so I'll break it down.
a) Rudder and nose landing gear
I don't want to convert this to a tail dragger but I don't want to connect the nose gear to the same servo as the rudder (because I don't like the control rod setup...too much angle and run on the nose gear rod). Therefore, I was going to use a separate (smaller) servo for the nose landing gear and somehow 'link' this servo to the rudder. How is this best accomplished, keeping the following in mind?
b) Aileron and flaps
Can someone recommend the most versatile setup for this? I was thinking of somehow 'linking' the flap servos to the aileron somehow so that during 'normal' flight I could select the flaps to act in concert with the ailerons. ie. full wing span ailerons. I also thought that I could then 'flip a switch' and have only the outer surfaces to act as ailerons and the inner ones revert to flap function only. Am I dreaming? Perhaps there's enough aileron there without doing this? Perhaps there is a better setup thank the one I conconcted here?
c) Flap control throws
Any recommended throw measurements? Not mentioned in the instructions.
I would appreciate any feedback. I've read about "Y' connectors and servo reversers....all new to me...except the use of Y connectors for linking 2 normal aileron actions. If I sound like a numpty, it's because all of my previous modelling has been perfomed with a basic 4 channel radio. Reeeal basic. I've never used a computer radio before. Which brings me to the next question.
d) Radio
Wifey got me a JR PCM 9X. I don't know much about it but it looks like it's up to the task. More switches and buttons than 747 flight deck it seems.
Manual is in Japanese but I like a challenge.I would really appreciate the help. Many thanks to you all.
Tamey
01-13-2004 | 08:32 PM
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RE: Super Stunts 60 setup
A) I used the standard nosegear setup on my SS 60 without any problems. I flew from a very rough dirt field and the nose gear never failed. What you propose would work but is more complicated than the provided setup.
B) For linking the ailerons and flaps together (Full Span Ailerons) you will need to do this with your computer radio. I am not familar with JR but I bet the radio you have will do this. Generally it would require plugging the right aileron into channel 1, the left into channel 6, then the flap servos into channels 7 & 8 or some such. Depends on your radio setup. With the programming available in the radio, you should be able to link up the flaps for full span ailerons with a flip of a switch. I didnt do it with my SS 60 but I have my Ultra Stick 60 set up for this with my Futaba 9C.
C) The flap throws are kinda something you need to feel your way thru as you will need to link your elevator to the flaps so that you get some down elevator when you apply down flaps. The down elevator is needed because the plane will want to go to a nose up attitude when the flaps are applied (climb) and the down elevator keeps the plane level. This is something you will need to experiement with for the settings such as 10% down elevator when you move the flaps down.
Once again I am not familiar with JR radios but on my Futaba systems you set this funtion to operate with either a rotary knob such as on my Futaba 6XAS, or a slider type knob such as on my Futaba 9C.
I would think there would be some kind of on line manual in English at the JR website.
Other than the nose gear issue, everything else you want to do will be done with the radio mixes so you need to find a manual in English. Or learn Japanese...
Hope this was of some help to you!
B) For linking the ailerons and flaps together (Full Span Ailerons) you will need to do this with your computer radio. I am not familar with JR but I bet the radio you have will do this. Generally it would require plugging the right aileron into channel 1, the left into channel 6, then the flap servos into channels 7 & 8 or some such. Depends on your radio setup. With the programming available in the radio, you should be able to link up the flaps for full span ailerons with a flip of a switch. I didnt do it with my SS 60 but I have my Ultra Stick 60 set up for this with my Futaba 9C.
C) The flap throws are kinda something you need to feel your way thru as you will need to link your elevator to the flaps so that you get some down elevator when you apply down flaps. The down elevator is needed because the plane will want to go to a nose up attitude when the flaps are applied (climb) and the down elevator keeps the plane level. This is something you will need to experiement with for the settings such as 10% down elevator when you move the flaps down.
Once again I am not familiar with JR radios but on my Futaba systems you set this funtion to operate with either a rotary knob such as on my Futaba 6XAS, or a slider type knob such as on my Futaba 9C.
I would think there would be some kind of on line manual in English at the JR website.
Other than the nose gear issue, everything else you want to do will be done with the radio mixes so you need to find a manual in English. Or learn Japanese...
Hope this was of some help to you!
ORIGINAL: Tamey
Hello Gurus
Hoping you can help me out here. I've done a preliminary search but able to find answers to all my issues so here goes....
Santa has arrived late, in the form of my fantastic wife, who yesterday revealed a brand new Super Stunts 60 with engine and radio. (I knew I married her for a reason.)
My basic question is: How do I set this model up? It's a bit more complicated than that so I'll break it down.
a) Rudder and nose landing gear
I don't want to convert this to a tail dragger but I don't want to connect the nose gear to the same servo as the rudder (because I don't like the control rod setup...too much angle and run on the nose gear rod). Therefore, I was going to use a separate (smaller) servo for the nose landing gear and somehow 'link' this servo to the rudder. How is this best accomplished, keeping the following in mind?
b) Aileron and flaps
Can someone recommend the most versatile setup for this? I was thinking of somehow 'linking' the flap servos to the aileron somehow so that during 'normal' flight I could select the flaps to act in concert with the ailerons. ie. full wing span ailerons. I also thought that I could then 'flip a switch' and have only the outer surfaces to act as ailerons and the inner ones revert to flap function only. Am I dreaming? Perhaps there's enough aileron there without doing this? Perhaps there is a better setup thank the one I conconcted here?
c) Flap control throws
Any recommended throw measurements? Not mentioned in the instructions.
I would appreciate any feedback. I've read about "Y' connectors and servo reversers....all new to me...except the use of Y connectors for linking 2 normal aileron actions. If I sound like a numpty, it's because all of my previous modelling has been perfomed with a basic 4 channel radio. Reeeal basic. I've never used a computer radio before. Which brings me to the next question.
d) Radio
Wifey got me a JR PCM 9X. I don't know much about it but it looks like it's up to the task. More switches and buttons than 747 flight deck it seems. Manual is in Japanese but I like a challenge.
I would really appreciate the help. Many thanks to you all.
Tamey
Hello Gurus
Hoping you can help me out here. I've done a preliminary search but able to find answers to all my issues so here goes....
Santa has arrived late, in the form of my fantastic wife, who yesterday revealed a brand new Super Stunts 60 with engine and radio. (I knew I married her for a reason.)
My basic question is: How do I set this model up? It's a bit more complicated than that so I'll break it down.
a) Rudder and nose landing gear
I don't want to convert this to a tail dragger but I don't want to connect the nose gear to the same servo as the rudder (because I don't like the control rod setup...too much angle and run on the nose gear rod). Therefore, I was going to use a separate (smaller) servo for the nose landing gear and somehow 'link' this servo to the rudder. How is this best accomplished, keeping the following in mind?
b) Aileron and flaps
Can someone recommend the most versatile setup for this? I was thinking of somehow 'linking' the flap servos to the aileron somehow so that during 'normal' flight I could select the flaps to act in concert with the ailerons. ie. full wing span ailerons. I also thought that I could then 'flip a switch' and have only the outer surfaces to act as ailerons and the inner ones revert to flap function only. Am I dreaming? Perhaps there's enough aileron there without doing this? Perhaps there is a better setup thank the one I conconcted here?
c) Flap control throws
Any recommended throw measurements? Not mentioned in the instructions.
I would appreciate any feedback. I've read about "Y' connectors and servo reversers....all new to me...except the use of Y connectors for linking 2 normal aileron actions. If I sound like a numpty, it's because all of my previous modelling has been perfomed with a basic 4 channel radio. Reeeal basic. I've never used a computer radio before. Which brings me to the next question.
d) Radio
Wifey got me a JR PCM 9X. I don't know much about it but it looks like it's up to the task. More switches and buttons than 747 flight deck it seems.
Manual is in Japanese but I like a challenge.I would really appreciate the help. Many thanks to you all.
Tamey
01-13-2004 | 10:45 PM
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RE: Super Stunts 60 setup
Tamey
I second the motion on the nose wheel; it works fine as per instructions. BTW, I have converted my SS60 to a tail dragger.
I experimented with coupled flaps, and with the Ultra Stick quad-flap system, and concluded that they are no advantage on this airplane. Because it is big, and slow, you really don't need them. I ended up settling for the normal ailerons and separate flaps. I set up the flaps on my landing switch (see your radio manual, when you can find one in English). I use max flaps, about 45 degrees, and offsetting down elevator; try a setting, and adjust as needed.
PCM 9X; I have downloaded an English-language manual written by the British JR distributor (MacGregor). Send me your e-mail address and I will send you a copy; it is an Adobe .pdf file.
Love the airplane, particularly making full-flap harrier-style landing approachs into a slight breeze; it lands almost like a heli!
Cheers, Burt
I second the motion on the nose wheel; it works fine as per instructions. BTW, I have converted my SS60 to a tail dragger.
I experimented with coupled flaps, and with the Ultra Stick quad-flap system, and concluded that they are no advantage on this airplane. Because it is big, and slow, you really don't need them. I ended up settling for the normal ailerons and separate flaps. I set up the flaps on my landing switch (see your radio manual, when you can find one in English). I use max flaps, about 45 degrees, and offsetting down elevator; try a setting, and adjust as needed.
PCM 9X; I have downloaded an English-language manual written by the British JR distributor (MacGregor). Send me your e-mail address and I will send you a copy; it is an Adobe .pdf file.
Love the airplane, particularly making full-flap harrier-style landing approachs into a slight breeze; it lands almost like a heli!
Cheers, Burt
01-13-2004 | 11:25 PM
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RE: Super Stunts 60 setup
Yeah, I had mine set up to do flaps. Tried it once. Like SVFlier says, this plane flies so slow and well, that flaps are not needed. I had an engine flameout on take off where the engine quit maybe 50 feet up. I was able to glide around the field in a complete circle and land so that it rolled right up to my feet. I actually had to give down elevator to bring it down.
If you have a broadband connection, you can check out a [link=http://fubar1.freeservers.com/RC/Movies/SuperStunts60.wmv]video[/link] of mine in action including that flameout and landing on my website.
Great plane. Mine met its demise while flying full throttle inverted thru a tree. Unfortunately, no video of that... The "thru a tree" part was not planned.
If you have a broadband connection, you can check out a [link=http://fubar1.freeservers.com/RC/Movies/SuperStunts60.wmv]video[/link] of mine in action including that flameout and landing on my website.
Great plane. Mine met its demise while flying full throttle inverted thru a tree. Unfortunately, no video of that... The "thru a tree" part was not planned.
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Tamey
I second the motion on the nose wheel; it works fine as per instructions. BTW, I have converted my SS60 to a tail dragger.
I experimented with coupled flaps, and with the Ultra Stick quad-flap system, and concluded that they are no advantage on this airplane. Because it is big, and slow, you really don't need them. I ended up settling for the normal ailerons and separate flaps. I set up the flaps on my landing switch (see your radio manual, when you can find one in English). I use max flaps, about 45 degrees, and offsetting down elevator; try a setting, and adjust as needed.
PCM 9X; I have downloaded an English-language manual written by the British JR distributor (MacGregor). Send me your e-mail address and I will send you a copy; it is an Adobe .pdf file.
Love the airplane, particularly making full-flap harrier-style landing approachs into a slight breeze; it lands almost like a heli!
Cheers, Burt
Tamey
I second the motion on the nose wheel; it works fine as per instructions. BTW, I have converted my SS60 to a tail dragger.
I experimented with coupled flaps, and with the Ultra Stick quad-flap system, and concluded that they are no advantage on this airplane. Because it is big, and slow, you really don't need them. I ended up settling for the normal ailerons and separate flaps. I set up the flaps on my landing switch (see your radio manual, when you can find one in English). I use max flaps, about 45 degrees, and offsetting down elevator; try a setting, and adjust as needed.
PCM 9X; I have downloaded an English-language manual written by the British JR distributor (MacGregor). Send me your e-mail address and I will send you a copy; it is an Adobe .pdf file.
Love the airplane, particularly making full-flap harrier-style landing approachs into a slight breeze; it lands almost like a heli!
Cheers, Burt
01-14-2004 | 02:42 PM
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RE: Super Stunts 60 setup
Thanks Chaps
Based on what you say, I think I'll stick with standard nose gear setup and will try a bog standard aileron/flap setup to begin with. Thanks for taking the time to respond.
Tamey
Based on what you say, I think I'll stick with standard nose gear setup and will try a bog standard aileron/flap setup to begin with. Thanks for taking the time to respond.
Tamey
