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Old 12-20-2004 | 12:51 PM
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Well I had a O.S. .61 Futaba stabdard flight pack and a 4'60 all ordered and ready to go and npw the fliught pack and enigne is in but not the plane and according to my LHS it won't be in-stock for a while. He said if I can get back to him soon he can have it by the end of this week. Now I was looking at the ultra sticks. I know a .61 won't hover a US 60 but how will it fly it? I really don't want to spend more money on the engine because its a gift not out of my wallet ya know. If you think that combination will really not be fun at all then Maybe I'll get a 40 with that engine or just ask him to stock it and get a .46. What do yall think? Thanks for lookign. oh yea and if you have any other plane suggestions then please say so. and if i get the sticjs I'm ready and prepared to modify it from reading all these posts on it.
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Old 12-20-2004 | 02:01 PM
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Simply buy the .40 sized Ultra Stick and use your .61 to power it. Since you have read all of the mods people have made, you should know what you need to do.
Old 12-20-2004 | 02:49 PM
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I have a US 60 with an OS61FX in it and it flies great. It's not a real screamer, but it is enough power for the plane. IMHO
Old 12-20-2004 | 04:24 PM
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Great. Two opinions. One decision.
Ok well I can imagine the outcome of the 61 on the 40
but what about the 61 on the 60. How much vertical will it have? If i get the 40 I'm afrade that I'll rip stuff off.
Please help. I need to make a decison soon. would I be better off buying the 4o wwith the 46?
Please let me know what you think asap.
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Old 12-20-2004 | 04:43 PM
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I'm running a .61 two stroke on my .40 Ultra Stick. I just maidened it this past weekend and loved it. I had to add a bit of weight to the tail and put my battery aft, but it ballanced out just fine. I didn't rip anything off either. You've got to know how to manage the throttle. Anyway, it's your money. Do whatever you want. I can't very well speak on the .60 sized Stick since I've not had any experience with it, but if I were to bet on it, you're not going to have nearly the vertical performance you're expecting. And, if you go with the .40 sized Stick with a .46 sized engine, you're not going to have the vert. performance that way either. So, it's up to you.
Old 12-20-2004 | 04:53 PM
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ohk well Its ordered but I can still change engines so please still reply. I'm making a list of all the mods to do when we get it.

1. dowl- cover with metal piping?
2. reinforce LG- How? with just epoxy?
3. reinforce firewall- again, with just epoxy?
4. How or ewhere can i get some sort of flying wires to brace the tail?
5. New Motor mount
Thanks for looking and thanks for all your help.
Old 12-20-2004 | 05:56 PM
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I have an Ultra Stick 60 with a Saito .82 which powers it nicely. But I did have a Super Stick 60 with an OS 61FX and that was a great engine on that plane. It was fairly quick and would hover. The Super Stick 60 is smaller but heavier than the Ultra Stick 60 by around a pound so who knows. It could turn out to be a decent engine for the Ultra Stick.
Old 12-20-2004 | 11:14 PM
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Thanks for all your help. I'll be sure to post in-fllights and a flight report when i maiden it.
thanks for all the help.
Old 12-21-2004 | 08:37 AM
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ohk well Its ordered but I can still change engines so please still reply. I'm making a list of all the mods to do when we get it.

1. dowl- cover with metal piping?
2. reinforce LG- How? with just epoxy?
3. reinforce firewall- again, with just epoxy?
4. How or ewhere can i get some sort of flying wires to brace the tail?
5. New Motor mount
Thanks for looking and thanks for all your help.
1) I didn't modify mine any. I simply coated the dowels with thin CA and that's it. Out of all of the flying I did over the weekend, mine didn't show any signs of rubbing/burning.

2) I didn't reinforce the landing gear block at all. IMHO, if you know how to land a plane the way it's meant to be landed, the stock setup will be fine. If one has a habit of coming in with a slight nose down attitude, I'm sure all of their planes have the landing gear reinforced.

3) I simply went around the perimeter of the inside of the firewall with epoxy. Using the larger engine, this may be a very good idea. It's cheap insurance anyway.

4) Probably at your LHS. To tell you the truth, I left my horizontal stab stock. I epoxied the hell out of it and left it alone. When maidening it over the weekend, I put enough stress on the tail to find out whether or not it would hold. Everything stayed together, even during the blender and some other heavy snap maneuvers.

5) You'll definately need a new mount.

6) Don't let all of the previously mentioned problems scare you. Build the plane using plenty of glue in the needed areas and everything will work fine. You will probably have to build a hatch in the belly of the plane aft of the compartment for you battery, but that's the only mod I did to mine. Build it like any other plane and fly the crap out of it. You won't be dissappointed. If something does come appart, it'll probably be someting you did wrong, and not a structural failure. That comment goes out to all Ultra Stick flyers.
Old 12-21-2004 | 11:40 AM
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I have an O.S. 70 on my 46. Great combo. I epoxied the the firewall area and epoxy coated the fuel tank area of the fuse and put some Gorilla glue around the landing gear mount. >>>>> What is the burning that is mentioned about with the wing dowels??
Old 12-21-2004 | 12:21 PM
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CeeGee,

Other Stick owners have had problems with having some obvious movement of the wing. Their wing dowels have been rubbing against the hole walls, causing some major friction, to the extent that the wood is turning black. IMHO, the only way this can happen is from wing movement. I, for one, definately don't have this problem. My wing fits pretty darn snug. Just check your dowels to see if there is any evident movement of the wing. If no markings, you need not to worry.

This was an issue with the Hangar 9 .40 sized Funtana, which I had at one time also. There was talk of the same kind of dowel burning in some models. Mine, again, never had a problem.
Old 12-21-2004 | 02:22 PM
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I had heard the same thing abou the wing burning on the dowels. I replaced the ARF dowels with solid oak ones and then added a second layer of strong light ply in front of the bulkhead on the side facing the firewall. Then I redrilled the holes for the dowels through the second layer. I also left the dowels a little longer than what the instruction manual said. I also took a 1/4" square piece of basswood and expoxied it along the back and the sides of the area where the back of the wing screws into the fuse. I have seen a thread here where that panel came out during a pretty hard loop causing the wing to separate from the fuse. I also used some fiberglass cloth and epoxy over the landing gear block on the inside of the fuse. Maybe none of this was needed, but I had the time and the chance to make sure it all held together before I flew it, so I made the mods.
Old 12-21-2004 | 07:16 PM
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Oh!! That's what it is. I just checked my wing dowels and they look fine. Nice to know for future planes though. Thanks

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