Well....

the much talked about Vectorflight 300S is back on sale (as are the other planes...)

Just curious the thoughts about using a Magnum 120 4stroke in the 66" plane....
I ahve read threads about using the Saito 120 and they weigh about the same.....


Also I know this plane is not really designed for it, but does anyone play with really high alpha flight with this plane?
Hover?
Torque rolls?
Harriers?
Etc? etc?


Thanks!!

Any thoughts on this?

still curious

I have a Magnum .91 4s in mine and it seems the perfect combo.. I considered the 120 but the big jump in weight IMHO negates the small gain in power... If you have a model that needs a lot of nose weight then the 120 looks a little better.. With the .90 the Extra66 balances with the battery (1400 mah nicad) right behind the fuel tank... Works out perfect... This is one sweet flying plane... I was amazed at how easy it seemed to penetrate the air... The .90 will give you plenty of verticl (with nearly perfect up and down lines). Plenty of power for nice big loops too.. If you check the weight jump between a Mag 90 and a Mag 120 you wil find it significant... Likewise between a Saito 100 and a Saito 120.... The increased wingloading IMHO is detrimental to flight performance... You want something wild go for a YS 110......

I was beginning to think noone like me....

I have the magnum .91 in a 4*60 now...I like the engine... Yes it is a big weight jump up to the 120's

Hmm.... I like the Saito 100 too.......

Does this plane have any ability to do mild 3D??

Im not into 3d but a good pilot could hover it. It's like every other semi scale 540. The ailerons are pretty small for 3d the rudder might be big enough as well as the elevator. I would have to say if your into 3d you might be better off with a Funtana 40 and a 91FS. For sport flying the plane does it very well. Mine is powered with a 91XLS and although not over powered it has more then enough for anything i want to do.

I really don't want the Funtana...too popular....
I'm looking for something semi scale.... that can pattern with a bit of 3D
the EF Yak looks good too, but you just cannot beat the prices on the Vectorflight models.......

I don't 3D either... I am sure someone somewhere could/would do it with this plane... My plan is to use the Extra66 to learn/perfect my pattern skills... This plane tracks like it is on rails... It is one of the sweetest flying Extra's I have flown and I have/had several different brands and sizes... If you look at the price, the performance and some of the best customer service out there it's a heck of a bargin... I am thinking about a second one for backup while they are at there sale price...
By the way, it took one click of aileron trim to trim it out on it's first flight... A very straight build on this ARF....
Roger

IronCross,

>> By the way, it took one click of aileron trim to trim it out on it's first flight... A very straight build on this ARF.... <<

My VectorFlight Edge needed two beeps of down elevator after its first take-off. Later I installed the wheel pants and took the two beeps back. Flying these planes you wonder why radios even come with trims.

jon

Amazing aren't they... I can't believe how straight they fly with no correction needed.. On the first flight I did a few circuits to get the feel of it then took it up high and chopped the throttle... I wanted to see what I was looking at for a landing... The plane just kept flying straight ahead and level gradually descending... If I had enough room I think it would land itself hands off.. Probably better then I do... Haven't had a dead stick yet but I am almost looking forward to it... Probably be my best landing... Oops, forgot to add I took 15% out of the throw on my elevator... Was a little sensitive for me... May be my CG causing that also... Will know more on my next trip to the field..

I've got a Magnum 1.20 in my VF Edge 540, I'm sure the 300 would like one too!

How did it balance out with the 120 ? I thought about one in the Extra but wasn't sure that the jump in weight from the .91 to the 120 would be worth it ...

If you feel you need all that extra power than I would say go for the 120, but if you prefer to keep your wing loading down to a reasonable number so the Plane Flies Better, than I would say a 91 or a Saito 100. High Wing Loading don't seem to bother some people, and some people it does. Most all will appreciate a lighter wing loading in the event of a deadstick though.

Still trying to decide....

Ordered the 540 instead of the Extra........

Hmmm.. still leaning toward the 120 for the power....
I know it will land a bit faster with higher wing loading, but would it hurt the planes ability to track nice and straight......?

There have been some flight reviews here on RCU regarding the VF Edge 540 from individuals who used a 120 on their VF Edge. I have read where the 120 does a fine job on the Edge, but I have also read where some individuals have opted to drop down from the 120 to a 100 or 91 because I am under the impression that they thought the 120 was more than what was needed to make the Plane perform well, and they felt like they could get the same performance and shed a little weight to lighten the wing loading by dropping down within the Manufacturers recommended power range. My Edge is Powered by a Saito 100 with a 15x6 APC, and I feel that it has all the power that this Plane will ever require. I also believe that the Plane will perform well with a 91 4 stroker from all that I have read. It is basically your decision as to what motor you use, but I just wanted to let you know that I don't believe that you would be dissapointed with the performance of a 100 or 91 on this particular Plane, and if you happen to be loooking for a real bargain, the Magnum 91 4stroke is on sale for $149 at Hobby People. The Magnum won't have quite the oomph as the Saito, but I would think it would pull the Plane around nicely, and the Magnums are super nice runners in my opinion.

Hmmm.....thanks for the insight.....

I am looking for a precision flyer that just might be able to do a bit of 3D...I know these planes are heavy, but that is my thought behind the larger engine

My VectorFlight Edge 540 came in at 8lbs 8 oz with the Saito 100. Now that is not a real good weight if your main thing is 3D flying, but 8lbs 8oz for a 66" ws Edge 540 is not to shabby of a wing loading for some very nice Aerobatic Flying. I don't think these Planes were designed to compete against Funtana's, and UCanDo's, but are designed for the same purpose as other Scale Aerobatic Planes in its Class like the Extra, Giles, Cap, Sukhoi, etc. which were designed after there Scale counterparts before 3D Flying was an actual Flying Style.

I understand that........


but it might be nice to hover.....just every once and a while

I understand your point of reasoning, and like I said, I have talked to several that have used the 120 and are happy as clams with it. And please by no means take what I say as gospil. I have not used the 120 on this Plane, so I am no expert on it. I just wanted to let you know that the 100 does produce alot of giddyupgo for this Plane, and I have read post from others who are quite satisfied with the 91 Magnum and Saito also. I just wanted to make an opinionated reply to the subject of your post since I do have this particular Plane being discussed. The 120 Magnum should be a fine choice , as long as you don't mind the little bit of extra weight, and from all that I have read, plus learned from my own, it should track straight as a string no matter which engine you go with. Its a great airplane, and I hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoy mine. The quality is superb!

Looked like a good spot for me to share a couple photos of my VectorFlight Edge 540 with Saito 100.

She is sharp.....

I reallly do appreciate the opinion!

Thanks for the Compliment! I wished I could take credit for building it, but VectorFlight Pretty much had it built when it came to my doorstep. I just had to do a little assembling. So VectorFlight really deserves the credit for producing a sharp Plane! Below are two Planes that I did build this winter from Great Planes kits, and neither look half as good as my VectorFlight ARF. One is the Extra 300 ,and the other is the Cap 232. I really put some time and effort into them, but I can't build them as nice as what VectorFlight can, and I can't build them as cheap as what I can just buy a nice quality VF Plane for.

I have a VF Extra with an OS 120 (Pumped). Flies great and has vertical out the ying-yang!!
It does make for higher wing loading that makes it land at a pretty good click but the performance I get with this combination is woth it IMO.

Darn you...just when I was thinking about the Saito 100.....

I have flown(sp?) a few planes with high wing loading... built a spad that I am pretty sure my car keys had a better glide ration than that beast.... so I am OK with that....

I'm really just looking for a great flyer that I can toss a harrier at, or maybe an occasional hover (not all day mind you...)
and power out of it to continue a good sequence.........


decisions, decisions....

It really doesn't sound like I would be disappointed any which way i go....!

exeter_acres
Why not just go with a YS 110 and have a blast... They sound good and have more then enough power..