I posted these same questions in another forum by accident but thought that it was bested suited for the ARF forum... so here it is again...

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I am looking at the Super Kraft .60 sized ARFs. They appear to be pretty decent kits for the price.

I am particulary interested in the Extra 300S (w/ Saito FA100) and the Staudacher GS300 (w/ Saito FA120S).

First, is there anyone has any experience with either of these planes who has something (good or bad) to say. Quality of the kit/hardware? Performance? What engine do/did you have in it?

Second, is there anyone has experience with BOTH of these planes who could compare/contrast them for me. Looks like the Extra is lighter with less wing area than the GS300 but that is all I can tell from the website. I am wondering if either one is 3D capable... if either one out-performs the other... if either one is of any better quality than the other... etc...

Do these ARFs require any modifications for better stability or performance? What kind of prop clearance do they have?

The GS300 .60 sized ARF calls for .91 to 1.20 4 cycle engine. Does a Saito 1.20 really fit in the cowling without cutting it up too much? What about the Saito .91 fitting in the Extra 300S?

I read the SUPER KRAFT vs. WORLD MODELS thread AFTER I posted this message... sorry 'bout the redundancy.... still, any further information you have would be appreciated.

I have the GS-300 with a TS .91 A good plane all in all. The .91 is a little underpowered for it, but it is 3D capable. I can't get quite enough control throw with the CA hinges so you might want to replace those, but I can TR. Knife edge figure 8's fine. Not enough rudder for KE loops though. Inverted flight is fine.
In my opinion a os 1.08 or something and a little bigger rudder with more throw there and on the eleveator will make this plane perfect.
The kankge kits are well made, go ahead you won't be disappointed.
RP

I too have been pondering the SK planes. A club member has an Ace Staudacher with the 100 Saito. It is well powered and seems to be well mannered.

Just a little note for Dallas, Txs.,
I have a 60 size Extra 300 with a Magnum Pro 91 in the nose and it will fly rock stable but I had to go to 4-40 dual pushrods in the elevator to prevent the elevator from 'esasing off' while pulling out ot a hard dive. Standard pushrods to the ailerons and rudder ( I always replace the metric junk). Balance and have a ball.....Travis, Partner in Aviation...

Check out the extra300

I just helped a friend w/his new 120 size Yellow aircraft 300l...If I was looking for another 120 sized plane That would be it..Verry impressive.

By the they have a 540T edge comming soon.. Im soooo excited..

Scott

SOLD!!! I got an Extra 300/60 and a Saito 100 in the mail. Can't wait till they arrive.

What servos are you using? Thought about 605 Hitecs.

BUCKETOBOLTS,
I AM USING STANDARD 422 HITEC'S IN IT . USING ONE FOR ELEVATOR, ONE FOR THROTTLE , ONE FOR RUDDER AND TWO FOR AILERONS. THAT'S ALL, FOLKS. ALSO 800 MA BATTERY PACK IN PLANE....TRAVIS, PARTNER IN AVIATION....

I'm with travis on this one. High torque high draw servos are not nessesary, they add weight {about .25 onces per servo} and they need a larger battery pack to keep them fed. Build it light, straight and have fun

Larry,

I think I read that your Extra (the picture above) has a Saito 100... if this is correct, how capable is that plane with that engine. I'm sure it performs well with sport flying, IMAC sequences, ect. But what about 3D... is that enough power to pull it out of torque roll or hover? Would you recommend the 100 on this plane? Do you think the 120 would be any better or would it be too much weight?

apbonura.

I have a saito 120 on it. Yes, it is a bit heavy and I had to do some modifications for it to fit. But it performs great!!! I am a novice at 3D so I haven't tried any thing...yet. It has unlimited vertical!!! I thing the 120 and Extra 300 is a great combination.