Pilatus PC-9, VMAR or Seagull?
01-12-2003, 11:20 AM
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Nearly 40C this weekend but sill windy as! trainers don't like wind! Once I get my PC-9 I could probably fly it in this weather 
01-12-2003, 01:08 PM
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tks-dfman- i 'll wait and see first , the st of old was so good it would be a hard act to follow the aitais made really good engines, not always the most power but so far for sure the best quality.
me and my dad are always checking things out and we decided awhile ago to open some engines and compare, we took os46fx/sc46s3/asp46s3 and mag xls46 and guess what we've had a cloning. the parts are almost if not 100% interchangeable, and all except the os are true abc and the os barrel is nickel plated . interesting no.
me and my dad are always checking things out and we decided awhile ago to open some engines and compare, we took os46fx/sc46s3/asp46s3 and mag xls46 and guess what we've had a cloning. the parts are almost if not 100% interchangeable, and all except the os are true abc and the os barrel is nickel plated . interesting no.
01-14-2003, 12:45 AM
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Finaly!
LHS called to say that my PC-9 is in Ill pick it up tomorrow!
While Im getting photos developed scanned etc. I can take some pics with my brothers little $80 digi cam but the photos will be really CR@PPY
Hey Glitch you got a good deal on yours Im paying $255!
While Im getting photos developed scanned etc. I can take some pics with my brothers little $80 digi cam but the photos will be really CR@PPY
Hey Glitch you got a good deal on yours Im paying $255!
01-14-2003, 02:47 AM
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Thats a good price,i payed $240 so your not doing to bad,one tip MAKE SHURE THAT YOU DONT!! RUD THE TRHUST LINE OUT ITS ONLY IN PENCIL......
01-14-2003, 03:20 AM
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Seagull PC-9
No experience with the VMAR, sorry
I just got the Seagull PC-9 a couple of weeks back. Reasonably nice kit, but the instructions are a bit crappy. Worst feature is the nose wheel steering arm (very loose), four other owners of this model complained to me of the same problem, suggest you change it if you do purchase the kit. Also, the wings are a real pain to get aligned properly when joining, this took me a good hour to get it done, so dont believe the claim they make of assembly needing onely and hour.
It flies quite nicely, can be fun to play with in the air, and is reasonably crash resistant (for an ARF). I had mine go down on a dead stick landing, the nose wheel decided to part ways on touchdown, and flipped the model over. No damage though.
Overall, its a nice kit, though not as good quality as the big names like Great planes and such, but when you consider the price difference, its worthwhile. Mine is modified for flaperon operation, but havent tried it our on landing yet. Has anyone else modified the model for flaperons?
I just got the Seagull PC-9 a couple of weeks back. Reasonably nice kit, but the instructions are a bit crappy. Worst feature is the nose wheel steering arm (very loose), four other owners of this model complained to me of the same problem, suggest you change it if you do purchase the kit. Also, the wings are a real pain to get aligned properly when joining, this took me a good hour to get it done, so dont believe the claim they make of assembly needing onely and hour.
It flies quite nicely, can be fun to play with in the air, and is reasonably crash resistant (for an ARF). I had mine go down on a dead stick landing, the nose wheel decided to part ways on touchdown, and flipped the model over. No damage though.
Overall, its a nice kit, though not as good quality as the big names like Great planes and such, but when you consider the price difference, its worthwhile. Mine is modified for flaperon operation, but havent tried it our on landing yet. Has anyone else modified the model for flaperons?
01-14-2003, 04:17 AM
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By now you must be tearing the box open, but don't rush the assembly.
I'm sure you'll be surprised the way they don't bounce around in a breeze like the flat bottom wing trainers, just don't let it get too far away, as somebody earlier mentioned, the wing colours are identical top & bottom.
Also don't believe any crap about them dropping a wing if you hold it off a little for a smooth touchdown on the main gear.
Col Taylor still has them at $229 with the 80" version at $529 but at least you're doing the right thing and supporting your local shop.
I just know you'll really enjoy it.
Marshy, I'd appreciate it if you could measure the diameter of the cowl (inside the lip) of the Corsair as I'm wondering if the Saito 3 cylinder 90R would fit in ?
By now you must be tearing the box open, but don't rush the assembly.
I'm sure you'll be surprised the way they don't bounce around in a breeze like the flat bottom wing trainers, just don't let it get too far away, as somebody earlier mentioned, the wing colours are identical top & bottom.
Also don't believe any crap about them dropping a wing if you hold it off a little for a smooth touchdown on the main gear.
Col Taylor still has them at $229 with the 80" version at $529 but at least you're doing the right thing and supporting your local shop.
I just know you'll really enjoy it.
Marshy, I'd appreciate it if you could measure the diameter of the cowl (inside the lip) of the Corsair as I'm wondering if the Saito 3 cylinder 90R would fit in ?
01-14-2003, 11:13 AM
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G-DAY Glitch, i will do that for you it should be here in about a week!!
As for the nose wheel, i have had no probs with mine, and our strip is a bush one and not that smooth, its fine.
My wings were good to put toghter, i have built 2 now and both the same no pobs.
As for the nose wheel, i have had no probs with mine, and our strip is a bush one and not that smooth, its fine.
My wings were good to put toghter, i have built 2 now and both the same no pobs.
01-14-2003, 05:06 PM
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please explain what on the front wheels is loose. i have seen more than 20 pc9's fly over the last year or two and never did i see a wheel problem.
01-14-2003, 10:30 PM
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Sorry Adrian, I forgot the AUD$ sign.
I think your US$120 is around AUD$210.
You mentioned some guys were looking at the 80" PC-9, I also heard one bloke saying it was a good choice for a petrol engine.
Would you ever consider petrol or stay with the glo ?
Also what do you think about a Saito 90R 3 cylinder radial in a model like the VMAR Corsair ?
I think your US$120 is around AUD$210.
You mentioned some guys were looking at the 80" PC-9, I also heard one bloke saying it was a good choice for a petrol engine.
Would you ever consider petrol or stay with the glo ?
Also what do you think about a Saito 90R 3 cylinder radial in a model like the VMAR Corsair ?
01-15-2003, 04:17 AM
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PC-9 nosewheel
Adrian,
I didn't mean the nosewheel is loose, I meant the steering arm is loose, for the seagull kit. Don't know if the other makes suffer this problem
I didn't mean the nosewheel is loose, I meant the steering arm is loose, for the seagull kit. Don't know if the other makes suffer this problem
01-15-2003, 04:48 AM
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Almost there....
I mounted the engine tonite.....cowl and all. Have a fuel dot, Remote glow plug, and the cowl is cut open for proper cooling. I replaced just about every nut and bolt on the thing. Also got new hardware for pushrods....
Got a little discouraged...had to give it a break for a bit.
Michael
Got a little discouraged...had to give it a break for a bit.
Michael
01-15-2003, 05:22 AM
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Cappie,
Don't be discouraged.
You've done a great job mounting the engine without a huge hole in the top of the cowl.
It looks a lot nicer than the ones I've seen,
Well done.
Don't be discouraged.
You've done a great job mounting the engine without a huge hole in the top of the cowl.
It looks a lot nicer than the ones I've seen,
Well done.
01-15-2003, 07:12 AM
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Cappie,
Nice job, a lot neater than mine. That front end is a pain to work on, but you have got it looking real nice. Dont get discouraged, get yourself ready to have a blast flying it.
One thing I did find on mine was the problem of balance, it was very tail heavy, hopefully you can avoid that problem.
Good luck for your maiden flight
Nice job, a lot neater than mine. That front end is a pain to work on, but you have got it looking real nice. Dont get discouraged, get yourself ready to have a blast flying it.
One thing I did find on mine was the problem of balance, it was very tail heavy, hopefully you can avoid that problem.
Good luck for your maiden flight
01-15-2003, 10:24 AM
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looking good cappie!! job well done,i had to move my batt pack behind the servos as i was nose heavy with the TT 61 pro and the c of g is about 3inch's from the leading edge, flys great.
01-15-2003, 01:22 PM
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nice job cappie, we were wondering how it was going for sure looks good, did you take out the baffle in the exhaust yet. :sunsmiley
01-15-2003, 01:28 PM
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glitch - tks. yep we were looking at the big pc9 if it flies as well as the baby it will be great to add to collection. we are not to keen on gas ,we have some guys using zenoa's and fuji's very nice to work with but no umph for weight. man that saito radial surely is special i would just put it up for show and never take the chance to wreck it . is the corsair 40 or 60.
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Encouragment...
Thanks Guys,
I almost through the motor mount away...it is a joke. We won't even go over the instructions... I swear the stock pushrods look like punji sticks!!!
Adrian, first thing I do is take that silly baffle out of the muffler. The radio gear is goin' in tonite and should be ready for a maiden flight this weekend.....suppose to be cold and windy though.
Thanks for the words of encouragement.
I almost through the motor mount away...it is a joke. We won't even go over the instructions...
I swear the stock pushrods look like punji sticks!!! Adrian, first thing I do is take that silly baffle out of the muffler. The radio gear is goin' in tonite and should be ready for a maiden flight this weekend.....suppose to be cold and windy though.
Thanks for the words of encouragement.
01-15-2003, 01:42 PM
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is that the cone shape in the muffler!! will it hurt the motor,or will it give me more power.... i have never herd of taking it out..maybe you guys can let me know.
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PS new plane in a week F4U can't Wait..
cheers
PS new plane in a week F4U can't Wait..
01-15-2003, 01:43 PM
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won't waste my time with the sticks . we lost 2 seagull planes with the bad sticks, i personally wrote them about this. as we have a pc9, pt19, 2x stearman, p51, extra300 and the new edge540 also a cap232 a ultra3d all seagull so we certainly know the short comings . we have had a very positive reply a massive discount voucher on our next seagull and as in the new edge540 massive quality improvements.
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the baffle is in the standard exhaust normally a little plate or cone, remove it it will give you 300+rpm and do no harm off coarse re tune but thats all
01-15-2003, 02:31 PM
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Muffler Baffle
OS Muffler Baffle
I take it out automatically....something they show at the local hobby store. It's better to break the motor in without it, basically the engine breathes better, less back pressure.
Adrian, do other engine manufactures have a baffle? I have only OS 2-strokes....
Michael
I take it out automatically....something they show at the local hobby store. It's better to break the motor in without it, basically the engine breathes better, less back pressure.
Adrian, do other engine manufactures have a baffle? I have only OS 2-strokes....
Michael