I tried an on board glow system on my giant scale PT-19/ inverted O.S. 1.20 Surpass. The first trip out was uneventful and the system worked good. The second time out, there was some kind of problem that gave me severe radio interference. I was very lucky to land the plane safely. I brought the plane home and test ran it again. The control surfaces would intermittently go ape. I disconnected the on board glow and the problem went away.

Hey Tim,
Whose PT-19 you got there H9, Great Planes, or a Dynaflite? I have a H9 with a YS-140L mounted inverted in the nose. Other than a bad needle valve, which I have replaced, the YS runs flawlessly. Then again the YS is a pressurized system. Just don't lean them or you will be eating prop. I do have a remote glow plug so the glow driver doesn't have to plug onto the glow plug from the bottom.

I built a onboard glow for my giant stick with a MDS 2.18. I used a micro servo a micro switch, master on/off switch & built a 1.5 v nimh bty to power it. Y it into the throttle & set it to glow below 1/3 throttle. the thing works great. store bought it easier but I'm Old School.

bluemax, it's a Dynaflite. I did a little research on my onboard glow problem. I guess sometimes a loose connector to the glow plug can cause a radio interference situation. If I ever try it again, it will be on a cheapo model for the test, and I'll make dang sure the connector is tight.
I think 191557's set-up is probably the best. No intricate circuits to fail.

TimC, Nice PT you have there.

I've never tried the onboard heat system of any kind, so I can offer no advice.. its probably better that way.

Have to go now,, I have a sudden craving for a Dr. Pepper

After reading all this mumbo jumbo on remote glow stuff (yes, that ismy technical term for it) I havew a question for you more experienced guys. I'm in the getting ready to start building my new CGP 67" Yak-54. I was going to put either and OS1.20 or Saito 1.25 in it where it would have to be inverted to fit in the cowl. The guy at the LHS told me to put a remote glow driver in it because I won't be able to get at the plug. Any thoughts??? Anyone have experience with this? Also, anyone ever used or heard anything about the small gassers like the Zenoah 20efi? I also thought about this engine, but know very little about gassers. BTW, I'd have asked the guys on the forum thread for this plane, but there is next to no activity and quite frankly, it seems the T_ _ _ Ters are more knowledgable!

-Jay K.

Waldo, look again. You should have to drink 24 Dr. Peppers to satisfy your sudden craving. I was paid very well by the Dr. Pepper company for this bit of subliminal advertising.
jwk72, I've used the remote glow connector with no problems except the first brand I bought would not let one of my glow starters connect.

LOL Thats funny

Tim,
Nice looking PT-19 and I'll bet she is a dream to fly. The H9 one is.


Jwk72
Attached is a picture of the remote glow plug adapter I am using. There is a 5/8 inch and 1 inch. I am using the 1 inch as the glow plug sits down in the YS engines and the smaller one sometimes is a bear to get on as you do not have much to hold onto to twist (sorry guys I had to use the word. besides it would look funny if i used t***t in the description) and lock onto the glow plug.

I have been using the Sonic-Tronics brand and below is the link to their web site if you want to check it out.

[link=http://sonictronics.com/xcart/customer/home.php?cat=329]sonic-tronics remote glow adapter[/link]

Well as long as were on the subject of Glow heater adapters, has anyone ever used a remote starter on the inside of their plane, I've been looking into the idea for a while now and thought of stepping into the next phase of WOW thats pretty freakin cool.[8D] ( I know I know )

Waldo, I've got one sitting in a box waiting to go into something special. I had this idea to motorize the landing gear on a Sig Senior tail-dragger so that it could move out to the field and then fire up the onboard starter. The plane was going to be equipped with sequential bomb dropping capability via a wire that would be wound around a servo with a spool attached and then each bomb would drop as the wire was pulled through the eye of the bomb stay (or keeper). Big ideas huh? Maybe I'll have to put that one together and make a road trip to where there are other flyers...........apparently EVERYONE here lost interest after Jack211 passed on. Dog days of winter, man.........I even toyed with the idea of getting rid of my RC stuff, but decided against it.

Well I would love to see that happen,, and I'm also Sorry to hear things have slowed down with out Jack211 around to kick you all in the butt,,, I'm sure he would love to see you all out there freezing your knickers off. and its a good thing you didn't sell all your stuff, I'm to broke to buy you all new stuff and send it out there at the moment. But I will if I have to.[>:]

I have noodled with many bomb dropping devices in my days and still am, I use to have a special balsa ply box with the bottom cut out, and aluminum foil lined the inside of the box, I mounted this to the inside bottom of the aircraft so the bottom was flush with the fuselage bottom, a small hole in the top of the house shaped special box was for the fuse to stick through, attached to the fuse was an Estes rocket igniter, I used a servo and a 9 volt battery for the activation, out of the servo arm I had a piece of pushrod with a wire soldered onto it and sent that to the battery and out of the servo tray I had the other wire soldered on and that went to the alligator clip hooked to the one end of the igniter, the other side of the battery went to the unoccupied piece of the igniter, all you had to do was push the servo arm over to make the connection it would light the fuse and the piece would fall out of the bottom of the plane, This was great for dropping anything at all, Parachuters/Smoke bombs/ whatever, this worked well for contests and all too, but You had to account for the delay in the igniter burning through a fuse or piece of string, so during competition, a new battery would shortened that delay,, A Paint brush pic,, just because I was bored....

Waldo,
I have a McDaniels glow system, battery, charger and all sitting in the package waiting for something to go into. I have seen other guys use them and they love them. Just turn it on and start. Plus you can dial it in on the throttle stick so that it lights the glow plugs at 1/4 throtttle or wherever setting you want to maintain a hot plug during landing. The only dtrawback is, it is another thing to charge up and may cause a CG balance issue. Although it can be used to help one too.

I probably should have put it in my PT-19, but the plane was nose heavy and I did not need any more wetght up front. I had to do a mod of moving the two elevator sevos in the tail to offset the weight, and even then I still need 1/4 ounce in the tail to balance. They are definitely a must if using a multi-cylinder engine to make starting easier.

That sounds great too,,,,, I have been aching to get one of those type systems but I haven't really needed to for the 40/60 size planes I fly, but I hope to be moving into at least one gasser over this next season, my main problem is buying all the things needed for finishing up my other plane projects right now. but I will get one soon enough though, I even had thoughts of making a 30 or 40% T _ _ _ T at one time, but with everyone saying the bigger versions aren't really flying like the 40 size I probably won't, Doesn't anyone make a Full build EDGE 540?? they are all ARFS that I have found, and I'm not ready to drop 400 to $1,000 on a plane just yet, I don't mind an ARF but I am a full build type of guy. why pay $600 for a plane when the wood would only cost you about $100, add a plan sheet or 2 and some parts I can see around $200 but I guess we're a dieing bried[&o] and the companies can make more off us by selling cheaply made already put together kits. I've had yet to see an ARF built with the quality of someone building a full kit. lol I'm just complaining into the cyber air I guess LOL

Waldo, right after you finished speaking, I could hear a cricket chirping.

I agree whole heartly with you Waldo. Without starting a controversy of ARF vs kits as there are plenty of forums that talk about that,

I think it boils down to:
who you are and what your interest is such as just flying or like us old timer building and flying.

how much time do you want to devote to the hobby/sport. Again do I just want to fly and I don't care what or how it looks.

just the fact today you have a choice. when we started if you didn't build, you didn't fly. period!!! Unless you bought someone's piece of junk because it flew like crap.

time. do you spend a year building a kit or do you slap something together on Monday and you are at the field on Wednesday. Of course slapping a kit you get to smell more epoxy fumes.......

the quality of the ARF's have gotten a lot better. Sometimes when you add up the cost of everything needed to build a plane such as the covering, paint, etc. you can by a decent ARF for that money and not spend a lot of your time putting it together.


I don't think you will see a 540 kit only because it is a younger generation thing and there are not to many of them that like to build. No demand no kit, sorry to say.


SHHH!!! Be very, very quiet. I hear another cricket.

Edit:
Just to show some diversity the attached picture has a VK Cherokee Babe that was built from a kit. The F-14 was scratch built and I tried to do a little fun with fun scale and the Pilatus Turbo Porter was an ARC, which I finished. the other picture is a close up of the Pilatus Turbo Porter after I did the landing gear mod. The last is the Fun Aero Albatros DIII i have spent the last year building and probably have another 6 months left before it is done.

Does UPS know one of their planes is missing?

and that looks lot more like an F13 (pre-swept wing configuration) . . .

Not only do they know it is missing they know who has it. I got some grief over that one.

She is an F-14, for sure. Attached is a single shot that is a lot closer.

You did a nice job on those planes bluemax. The functional landing gear on the Pilatus Porter is a nice touch.

Thanks Tim,
I had to do something with that landing gear as it was starting to cause cracks in the fuse from a less than perfect landing. There was a stright wire going into the fuse where the struts now are, and it kept pushing up on landing causing the cracks. The struts work really well taking up the shock. An expensive fix but so far worth every penny.

Sorry TimC,,, LOL I didn't mean to disturb the peace by cricket sounds

Bluemax,, that is what I'm talking about,,, NICE WORK !!! I just love to see wood forming airplanes, B.E.A.utiful, Yes the ARFS have been a little better construction wise, but you just can't beat being able to reinforce things right from the begining where you just know they are going to need it. And besides,, I like to look at everyones personal touches in the scratch built crafts... keep up the good work....

All people who build anything but ARF's are horrible people. Oh yeah, and the Twist sucks, and it is NOT a 3D plane!

Adam,
Tell us how you really feel about that. Hopefully, you are joking here.....

Of course I am joking. I am a Twist guy through and through (have 3 of them ready to go). I am just goofing around and playing with the guys that pop in and throw down our little beauty for no reason. I have nothing else ot contribute being it is 17 below today and I can't fly. Call it cabin fever. I am building my very first kit. It is a Top Flight .60 sized Mustang Gold Edition. Just getting going. I have the utmost respect for kit builders.

Down,

It is just a hop, skip, and a jump to my place. Let me know ahead of time and I will go snow blow the club's runway. I figure we could get at least 60 flights a piece in a weekend. We have plenty of room, and would love to have ya. I have seen your place, I think it is your turn.

PS,

I am planning a Spring fishing trip to the Canal. I think I have the wife on board. You can bet I will be bringing the Twist.

Adam

Thought so. Just checking to be sure.....

Cabin fever does make you do strange things....