Anybody have experience with the Factory Direct Midget Mustang 60? I love the looks of the plane and an curious how well it fits together in real pictures so post them if you have them especially the cowling area. Did you have to reinforce the gear and/or firewall? I would run a TT .061 in mine would it fit nice?

http://www.thewingsmaker.com/airplan...php?code=GA028

Thanks

I am currently reviewing a Wingman 1 From The Wings Maker. They are a subsidiary of The World Models and first appearances are good. The manuals are about the worst thing about them, but if you can hack your way through the assembly, you'll have a pretty nice plane.

I have a 7 year-old version of this plane by World Models, best plane I have every owned!

Do the wheel pants fit well? I fly off pavement.

You can use wheel pants, especially if you fly of pavement. Our field is to rough for wheel pants with tires the size that come with this ARF!

vupilot,

You must have read my mind, I was going to start a thread asking about this model. I would be very interested to know if anyone has any experience with this plane as well. I have a TT Pro .61 and a Super Tigre .90 lying around. I am wanting to know more about the fit of the cowl as well and whether or not either or both of these engines will fit sideways without having to open a gaping hole in the side for either the head or the muffler or both. If anyone has any pics of the cowl installed with a 2-stroke mounted sideways it would be greatly appreciated. Any input as to what the fit and quality is like would also be great.

T.

Hi, I have a yellow WM one still in the box.
going to fit a saito 125 with Hatori header pipe.
She's a CLASSIC...

I've got a wings maker midget mustang and I love it! I had an ASP .80 in the nose, but it needs work so I replaced it with a Tower Hobbies .75 2-stroke with a TME smoke pump. Maiden tomorrow weather permitting but I think it will fairly scream with the 2-stroke.

I know my TH .75 was a perfect fit- no gaping hole but a small one for glow ignitor

Chriso032,

Can you post a picture, Id like to see a picture of your plane with the cowling on and just how little you had to trim for the 2-stroke exhaust.

Thanks,

My WM Midget with ASP91 2 stroke.....just required exhaust extension to stand it off (15mm???....can't remember)
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Lovely plane.....Bolly 13.5X8 on 5%....goes like a rocket.
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Strengthened spats with lots of CF tows.....fly off bumpy strip..nil pbm so far.
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Good Luck....if yours is like the WM version, you will be happy.
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Steve

Very nice, thanks. You guys have sold me on the quality of this ARF.

Great Plane i have one with a YS 110 manual really Sucks but plane makes up for that and they didn't rob me on the S\H to Canada .

I will be doing a maiden on mine tomorrow. My all up weight with no fuel is 7 lb's 14 oz's. What did everybody elses come in at?

I maidened it today with no problems. It took about 4 clicks of down elevator and that was it. The thing is blistering fast with the Tower .75. I am very satisfied with it.

That's it?
You went fast?
What about a "magazine" review! How did it take-off, land, any aerobatics? Stall characteristics?

Ok, my finished weight was approx 7lb's 14 oz's. As the plane sits curently it it powered by a Tower .75 with the stock muffler spinning a APC 12-7 with a Tru turn 3-1/4 lightend back plate spinner. The fuel used was WC 10% Extra Premium. The Radio used was Spectrum DX7 with a 6200 reciever which feed JR DS821 servo's with a 5 cell 1200 mah battery pack. The take of roll was uneventfull other than the normall right rudder imput with full up elevator that I began to ease off after about 5-8'. After about 15-20' I ROG with a shallow 10 degree climbout when I discovered it was gaining speed quite rapidly. I put in a couple clicks of down elevator. The plane felt so comfortable on the second circut of the pattern that I did a inverted pass about 20' at full stick. The plane rolls very axily and knife edges both ways for as far as you can see with hardly any coupling whatsoever. I tried to stall it @ altitude and it just mushed forward and woukld not drop a wing tip. I then proceeded to do a quarter speed flyby to start and evaluate the low speed handling which I felt was pretty solid. On the next time around a set up with a very shallow decent followed with the tower .75 @ idle and come over the runway threshold @ approx 7-8'. I touched down at mid field with about a 100' rollout. On the next five flights I started to play with the plane doing loops so big that I heard guys questioning the range of the radio. ROFL The plane allways felt totally under controll and very solid, but like it was litterally on fire. After yesterday, I know that the Shoestring will be sitting at home alot as I explore the flight characteristicsd of the MM more. I found that while in the approach, side slipping dramactily lowered the runnout on the ground, and allowed me to touch down pretty much were ever I wanted to on the strip. This plane will float for a long long distance if you are not acustomed to a sleek airframe. I highly recommend this plane with Tower .75 for a very rewarding flying experinece. I made sure to ballance it @ 90mm lateraly, and checked the axial balance which was also good enough for me. I set it up according to the manual which was a very good starting point, but I feel it could use a little more aileron for the next flights. Keeping the elevator at the recommended range of up/down 20mm will really help with the inadvertant tip stall snap which I could not even get it to do. I have not done any spin testing yet, but would compare the flying charateristics to that of a 80's pattern plane so far. It is pleasure to fly and a envy at the field allready, and this all took place with many 40-43% planes sitting on the field.

That is BETTER than any magazine review........THanks!!
Interesting that you didn't experience much coupling in knife edge considering the amount of dihedral in the wing, etc. Yeah, I wonder how it would spin.

Will you be doing any wide stuff like skorman in post #12 at : http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_88...tm.htm#8864348 ???????

I wonder if it could to a blender since it can snap and hopefully flat spin; even though it isn't a 3D model........
Thanks again for the details.

Gary,
I addressed the rear glue joints through the holes I originally placed in the fuse for rear mounted elevator servo's. After I changed my mind, I used the the holes to build my pushrod supports. I have onlyspun it a couple times, and did not try to flat spin it. After entering a spin, it winds up very fast. It did take a complete revoulution to exit the spin by just neatralizing the controls. I am comfident that it would flat spin, but how well will it come out of it.

I had the tiger striped version powered by a laser 80 4 stroke, it was absolutely fantastic. The only crap items were the u/c mounting plates in the wing which seemed to be held in with wrigleys spearmint, after using epoxy I had no further problems.
With a 14x6 wood prop she'd do several vertical rolls, falling off about 2/3 the way round the 3rd one, loops as big or as small as you like.
With a 14x8 the speed was awesome, a greatly overused word, well warranted in this case.
I mounted the engine inverted and, due to the neat position of the exhaust didn't have much sticking out. Landing on a small strip I needed to be at knee height about 30 to 50 metres from the threshold as it is a very slick ship.
I experienced black wire failure of the battery and the subsequent vertical re-entry into the top soil bent the laser's crankshaft and stuffed the cowl and firewall of the plane. I tried rebuilding the cowl but the amount of cracks have to be seen to be believed, I'll get it together one year.
I tried to buy a new cowl but it was 30% of the kit price so I didn't bother.
It is one fantastic plane and with the 14x8 prop and 10% nitro had the legs of a(white one) similar plane with an asp 91 4stroke. I tried it with a 13x11.5 pattern two blade but on our short strip she just wouldn't get up to flying speed in the 50 or 60 metres available.
I'd really like to build a new one from scratch, based on the fullsized which was fitted retracts and was polished alloy, google midget mustang and you'll see what I mean. I think flaps would be a realy good idea as the fullsize had them.

Hi everyone
i got mine from the wings maker with ASP FS91. This plane Flies great and so fast no bad habit! here is the video..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTGcJMnuqJw

Picture
http://www.rcuniverse.com/gallery/ga...ubgaltype%3D14

You need dihedral in a plane with a low, straight wing.

Roll coupling is caused by 3 things, wing location, high, mid, low;dihedral or anhedral; and sweep back of forward.

A low wing location, sweep forward and anhedral will cause a roll opposite to the rudder.
A high wing location, sweep back and dihedral will cause roll in the direction of the rudder.

So if you have a low wing, you need sweep back or dihedral to compensate for the location and cancel the roll coupling.

Conversely, a high wing plane needs anhedral of sweep forward to compensate for its wing location.

3 degrees on each side is a good rule of thumb for dihedral/anhedral. I don't build many swept wing planes, but, as I recall, sweep needs 5 times the amount as dihedral, so 15 degrees of sweep would compensate.

You only have to fly a plane with a low, flat wing and put in rudder to see what happens. In knife edge it will tend to roll over on its back. I have a couple of Ultra Sticks for sport flying. Both have 3 deg. anhedral on each side. The 40-sized one with an OS .55 will do a knife edge loop with correction only at the end.