Which one fly better anybody seen or flown a phoenix Decathalon or seagull models Decathalon both in 40 size i a GMS 47 and dont knoe which one is the best about the same price for either one???

They are very similar. Rumor is that they're made in the same place - both made in Vietnam. I had the Phoenix Decathlon and thought it was pretty nice. I was amazed at what I got in the package for the price I paid. I was able to use all the hardware and assembly was pretty easy, except that the wing strut directions are not very clear. Easy to figure out though.

Plane looks great on the ground and in the air, flies really nice.

Again, Seagull and Phoenix are very similar, and identical in quality and features.

Hey gaRCfield do you remeber what motor you ran on yours and what was the weight? thanks Tim

I ran an OS 55AX with stock muffler. I don't know the weight; I've never weighed a plane.

I didn't have the plane long enough to get the engine broken in and get full power, but if you are interested in scale flying a .47 will be fine. I had this plane before I understood what scale flying was, and before I actually started flying full-scale planes. A .47 would suit the plane well.

So you're telling us that you had no idea what a scale model was before you jumped into a "full scale" airplane?

NorfolkSouthern

I have the Phoenix, It is well built the instruction manual is well written and easy to follow. I have an OS 55 AX, spinning a APC 12.25 X 3.75 prop. It flies beautifully. Will hover and knife edge with this setup. Looks great in the air. A nice fun plane to fly. I read alot of post about bouncy landings, but never have had any issues with that. I have the CG set at 95mm from the leading edge, manual calls for 100mm. I'm a tad nose heavy, but it flies perfect. I have also read that there was a big problem with torque roll to the left, I had some issues with torque roll on take off when I was trying a 13X6 APC prop. I switched props and no more torque roll on take off at at all! The Fuselage on the Seagull is about a 1/2 wider than the Phoenix. I know this because I warped my canopy while trying to get a wrinkle out of the covering near the firewall with a heat gun. You can't get just a canopy from Phoenix, but you can from Seagull. I ordered the Seagull canopy and it was way to wide to use. To get a replacement canopy from Phoenix, your only option is buying the entire fueslage for 54.00. I also have the phoenix Tucano running a Fox 45BB engine with an 11X7 prop. Both the Tucano and the Decathlon weigh in at just over six pounds with 5 cell 2000 Mah Nimh batteries. I think the GMS 47 will certainly fly it, but don't think you'll be able to get unlimited vertical with it, but it should fly it very scale. The decathlon needs a slow take off, by that I mean increasing speed gradually until the tail comes up, before going full throttle. I have since got a DX7 Tx and set it up with flaperons. Take off and landings are even easier with the flaperons. Even without the flaperon settings the Decathlon gilded in for landing with the the throttle chopped, almost trainer like. I have 10 flights on it and love it. There is a good build thread here, just do a search for Phoenix Super Decathlon. It might be in the scale forum, I can't remember.

Here ya go...[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3606334/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm]RCU Decathlon thread[/link]