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Lets all say a nice thank you, I bow my head to Down's done in T_ _ _ T [:-]

But I don't believe it is unrepairable for one second, I've never even heard of such a word.. :D after all the flight time you had on her and have another one sitting there, I wouldn't repair it either.

I mostly did my last major rebuild to see if I could,, more then I really wanted to rebuild it, but hey,,, I just picked up Two new fresh bottles of epoxy yesterday,:D:D not that I needed to, but just in case I will need some soon. as part of my repair on my last rebuild I ran 2 ply sticks from the mid wing into the nose to support the fuse sides a little better, good thing I did, because after last weeks loose flying ship, I took her home and looked at it over the week and it was the only 2 things holding the nose on, the side pieces I put on had become separated, so that explained the loose flying, but it still flew great, I'm more surprised the whole nose didn't just go shooting into orbit with that OS 70 tugging on her in hover mode. but she flew like a champ yesterday, got 4 flights out of her by 10am then I had to go help pour a slab Ugggggg what could be worse on flying day then having to leave to go move concrete around... anyway, the winds were none for the 1st 2 flights and then by the 4th flight I was again playing in 20 - 30 MPH winds again, it was a great morning..

Again sorry for the busted motor & downed T Downt,

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The way I figure it the balsa was stressed down to the atomic level........beyond the molecular lignin-chain breaking point. In other words......she wasn't just falling apart at the seams.........she was near the aggitated atomic particle, "beam-me-up-Scottie" stage.

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I know what you mean, been there a few times myself over the years,, There is in fact, a time to admit when enough is enough... LOL

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Here is the best thing I have seen to do with this plane. [sm=thumbup.gif]

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MOTORHEAD !!!!!!!! lol THAT IS GREAT !!!!!

Is that the T _ _ _ T 60 ???[sm=lol.gif][sm=48_48.gif][sm=omg_smile.gif]:D:D

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LOL

Yes sir.

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A fitting end!!!

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[sm=punching.gif] wooohooo...

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That must be a statement about the .60 size T _ _ _ T. Just what I thought!

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Yes it is

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If ya can't flyem, F---em up.[sm=spinnyeyes.gif]

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Wow, thats all I can say. She flies like a dream with that 46 AX on her. Can't wait to get her up again :D

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I have a .60 sized Tw--t. I put a Hi-maxx outrunner powered by a 6 cell Lipo on it. I had to move up to a 16x6 prop to get it to hover. I only tried one flight with the 14x7, and found it wasn't enough thrust. My second flight, first one with the 16x6, was this morning. I was pleasantly surprised to see her hang on the prop.

Mine wieghs in at 7.5 pounds with the batteries and motor. It still floats like my .40 size. The wings are huge. I haven't gotten a good feel for how she flies. I can say that the CG is extremely sensitive. You have to have it at the very front of the recommended CG, 5 7/8" to 6", or it is almost unflyable. I had to make some CG adjustments as well as a prop change after the first flight. I almost put it in the ground with the CG at 6 1/4. I wonder if that is part of the complaint with this plane. Fortunately I know how the Tw--t is suppose to handle, and worked it out right away.

I will give you guys a better report on how she flies after I get another 15-20 flights under my belt. I really like it so far. It seems to fly very similar to the .40 sized. Definately doesn't roll as fast. Having a plane that big with a silent ourunner on it is a real kick. The response of the motor is amazingly quick.

Adam

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WAS!!!! the Twist 60.....:D:D:D

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Adam, how is the "throttle" response on that electric conversion, but more importantly.....what's the duration of the flightpack? When you were here we discussed the investment it would take to fly an electric flight after flight, for the entire day.....that being said.....are you going that route or are you treating the T _ _ _ T .60 as a one or two flight a day novelty? The electric birds I own are a blast to fly, but to fly them all day required a HEALTHY cash investment in batteries and chargers and the batteries were shot after a year ('course I do fly the crap(beggin' your pardon) out of any given bird). That silent power and responsiveness is a real rush, though. I look forward to the day when the market is flooded with inexpensive quality LiPos, but then again I once waited for Santa to come down the chimney too!

Aside from all that, I'm grateful to guys like you who are willing to ride the leading edge of technology.......keep it up........and keep those reports coming. :)

Peace,

downtrodden

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Down,

Throttle response is instantaneous, just like the little ones. I have two 3 cell 4000mah Common Sense wired in series to give me a 6 cell 4000mah battery. It cost me $240 to get both, and that was a promo deal. I also have four 3 cell Thunder Power Power 2100mah batteries that I am going to wire up to make a 6 cell 4200mah pack. With a good Lipo charger, you can charge them in an hour with no problem at all. I get 15 minutes of flight time, and I like to let them cool for 15 minutes minimum. That means that after 2 flights I have to wait one hour, and then I can can do 2 more flights back to back again. That is four flights with an hour in between with the two chargers that I have. While I wait, I just do a couple of flights on the .40 size Twist. So it is still non stop flying for me.

With balancing, you should get a minimum of 300 flights out of them, but most likely more. So the $240 battery set up I have costs me about 85 cents per flight. If it lasts longer, which I am sure it will, then the price drops. The kicker is a bad crash will destroy them. You would have to put it in really hard the way I have them packed in foam. It would take a lawn dart type crash. That is the big unknown. However the motor is only $140, so you pick up a little there.

I would say that on average, Lipo's will cost you more than glow. It sure is cool seeing a bird this big flying silently.

Adam

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Hey, guys. . . .
Instead of me doing conciderable back posting research, shoot me some numbers.
I'm setting up the rates and exponentials for the rudder, elev, and 'rons. seems I remember past postings saying around 70% on the low, and 120% on the high.
I was inclined to possibly start at a much lower, say 50% low and 90% so I don't over-fly it at first. remember, this will be my first non-trainer flat wing high lift slowpoke.
as for the exponentials, I've looked at a few different settings. I'm leaning on the 40 figure that the radio's displaying. In watching the control surfaces, it seems that they dont come on so strong unless i go full tilt with 'em.
You all have the knoweldge and stick time and i have yet to fly with settings other than "straight-up" on my E-Starter. Radio's a JR 6102.
OK; Fire away

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What I find incredibly hard to believe is there is now 208 pages to that thread. How much does it take to convince people that the T***T is NOT a real airplane?

Nice job on the stomp. Well deserved and appropriately applied.

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ITS NOT !!! [X(][:-][sm=angry_smile.gif][sm=eek.gif][sm=bananahead.gif][sm=confused.gif][sm=confused.gif][sm=biggrin.gif] Man,, its as real as it gets for me, I haven't seen a plane yet do what this plane can do at WOT as far as spins and near fatal collisions with objects, and Fatal collisions as well,,, LOL,,,

I'm glad I like the glow models,, I just don't have the patients for waiting for a battery to charge while I'm at the field, I have a an electric for bombing around with but I take her up for her run with the battery and then shes done for the day.

We went out Saturday and of course I had 2 beautiful flights with the T_ _ _ T before the winds kicked back in to high gear, and then 2 more flights with the Nice gusty playful wind, all those flights were in 2 hours time and I also trained someone as well, Thats why I love Glow, But I had to leave early to go pour a cement foundation,,,:eek: [&o] where is the justice I ask??? where??? I only get 4 to 6 hours every Saturday to go flying and NOTHING should ever interfere with that, we have already decided to show up wind, rain, or shine every week and deal with the elements given to us,, How many more obstacles must we overcome to have our peaceful Saturday of flying without interruption? It took me years to make everyone around me understand Saturday Morning is a Work day for me,,,,, I'M BUSY,,:D DON'T ask me to do anything from April thaw until December snow until at least 2:00 on Saturdays, any other day is open season.

There I had to vent that,, Thanks,, Just a :Dspoiled brat I am

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I couldn't let this go unanswered by me. When I read posts like this (that stick out like a sore thumb), I have to wonder "why". The way I wonder is by hitting up and viewing the last 100 posts or so of the person in question. After reading through a hundred or so, I couldn't find a single instance of a Twist in there.[:o] Now I'm wondering if he even has flown one.... or maybe been mid-aired by one??? Not sure here... maybe more explanation will come.

As one of the original Twisters on this thread, I can't remember seeing JimRoss around here before. So, what gives Jim?????

ghee-grose

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Nothing gives. I merely stated my opinion on the subject. There have been sevral of those at our club over the past year or so. It has been proven that with enough power anything can fly(Well, almost anything) and to me this plane falls into that category.

I occasionally post on here when an interesting subject arises but I don't spend much time here. I choose to be other places.

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What was the purpose of your post? I believe it's akin to walking by an existing conversation (of which you no nothing about) and uttering your two-cents and continuing on. It only causes those originally having the conversation (T _ _ _ T forum members) confusion (picture them all scratching their heads saying "What was that all about?") )as well as them considering if they should alert the authorities to this issue of incitement. Didn't your momma ever tell you that if you don't have anything good to say, don't say nothing at all?

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I think Jim is just trying to educate those who think the Twist is the greatest thing since sliced bread...

Sure, a Twist may sport fly pretty good, but when it comes to 3D, there are alot of selections out there that perform much better than a Twist... One day, given enough time and experience, you will come to the same conclusion too... Just my 2 cents and the opinion of several thousand other hardcore 3D enthusiasts...

Now, as to the prior post... If you want to continue walking around with your rose colored glasses on believing that the Twist is the end-all of 3D airships, so be it... I see no incitement displayed... Just like you, Jim stated his opinion...

No flames please, merely stating my opinion...

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That was my thoughts Down. ;)

As far as "with enough power anything will fly"... I had a off-brand V-Max .46 on mine and it flew great with it. Keep in mind I didn't know much 3D back then, but for a Fun-Fly/Aerobatic plane it was awesome. And yes, I've flown others that I can't say the same thing about.

I've looked at most of your posts lately and they deal with the Wild Hare Extra... please tell me you're not comparing the $99 Twist to that $400+ aircraft!?!?!?

I spend quite a bit of time on RC Universe and RC Groups and browse a number of threads where my fingers reach the keyboard to do something like you did here... then I think.... and hit the BACK button and get out of there and let the people have their party without me pissing on them. See what we're getting at here. Besides, 208 pages can't be wrong. Like you said, it's your opinion... but I don't think you've told us if you have even flown one yourself. I take it that you've SEEN them fly but not with your hands at the controls of your own Twist?

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I believe he would be comparing it to a Chinn Yak, Mojo .40, Masonry Brick with a motor. No need to look at my post as I don't post here that much if at all. No I have not had a Twist either but had a couple of the above and would have to say, they my friend were the cats meow in the fun-fly 3D world. I am just happy I found Profiles before I bought one of these. Don't get me wrong I think the Twist is a great plane to introduce people to the 3D world, just not going to stack against a good slab of similar size.

The reason the above mentioned .60 size twist got stomped is because the realization of slabs was recognized and the need for an intro 3D bird was no longer needed.