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Old 05-17-2005 | 08:25 PM
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Hey all,
I am very green to this i just got me a rtf trainer and am currently building a 4 * 60. I have one question, the instructions call for you already having an engine and servos, would there be anything wrong with almost completing the build with out those yet. I apologize if this has already been asked but i havent seen it anywhere, or this is just too dumb of a question .

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Old 05-17-2005 | 08:40 PM
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You could go ahead and get started on your wings, tail etc. Should probably wait on the fuselage until you get your engine. One of the first thing you do is to install your motor mounts on the firewall. For that, you need the width of the engine you plan to use. Servos could wait until much later in the process. Fred123[&:]
Old 05-17-2005 | 08:43 PM
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Mstanglx,

You do need to engine to mount the engine mounts before you cover which is easier, but it can be done later, you just will havfe a tougher time getting the blind nuts in. The rest can be down without servos,receiver and such

Just a hint. Take your time and read the instructions for each step carefully. Dry fit everything before putting glue to it. SIG makes great kits which are easy to do.

There is a huge thread on doing the 4*40 which is basically the same plane with the exception of the 40 comes with a single wing servo versus the 60's 2 servos.

Here is the thread

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_18..._Swager/tm.htm
Old 05-17-2005 | 08:54 PM
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As Fred said, you can assemble the wings without having any of the radio gear or the motor. One of the very first steps when starting to build the fuse is to drill the holes for the motor mount. If you use the supplied mount, you are going to need the motor you will be using on the plane to get the spacing correct. Well, you don't need the motor, it just makes things a helluva lot easier! Once the holes are drilled in the firewall and the blind nuts are in place, then you should be able to proceed with the build until almost the very end.
Old 05-17-2005 | 10:40 PM
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Default RE: Building first kit 4 * 60.

My first kit build was also the 4*60, great kit and great plane when finished. I agree with the other guys. It's not impossible, but it sure is easier to have your engine and mount when building your fuselage. Drilling the firewall holes and sucking up the blind nuts is much easier done when you get to that point in the manual instead of later on and trying to fish things through small holes and drilling holes with the cheeks in the way (of course you can always but a longer bit).

If your interested here is a thread with a lot of pics of my build, might give you a hint or two. [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_361392/anchors_361392/mpage_1/key_/anchor/tm.htm#361392]Putt's 4*60 build[/link].

Good luck and let us know if you run into any more questions, looking forward to seeing the pics of the finished project
Old 05-17-2005 | 11:02 PM
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If you know for sure engine you'll be using you could buy a Hayes or Dave Brown one piece mount for it. That way you can drill your firewall and install the blind nuts before building the fuselage.
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If you know for sure engine you'll be using you could buy a Hayes or Dave Brown one piece mount for it. That way you can drill your firewall and install the blind nuts before building the fuselage.
If you don't do this you MUST have the engine because once the Fuse is built up you will not be able to fit the Blind nuts for the engine mounts...

(I have a 60 sitting on the bench right now!!!)

I'm using a Super Tigre G-90 on mine...

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Old 05-18-2005 | 06:42 AM
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Thanks everyone for the information, ill have to find a way to talk my wife into letting me buy the engine . Ill try to post progress pics when i get the left wing done.
Old 05-18-2005 | 07:21 PM
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ORIGINAL: Mstanglx

Thanks everyone for the information, ill have to find a way to talk my wife into letting me buy the engine . Ill try to post progress pics when i get the left wing done.
Cool... Do that...

I tend to use the "Make her fell guilty" method... as far as getting the engine goes...

This includes raising the last 5 items of clothing (or shoes) she has purchased, and also how the Airplanes help you relax... etc...

Got my new Little Toni on the way right now.... HAHAHAHAHA

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Old 06-05-2005 | 07:07 PM
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I think im going to get a super tigre 90 for this plane, but i dont think i will be able to get one for a while . Sorry i havent posted any pictures i havent had time. Can you give me the width dimensions of the engine so i can at least predrill the holes so it will be ready for the engine when i get it, and i can finish the rest of the plane.
Thanks,
Old 06-05-2005 | 07:49 PM
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Heres what I found from the Tower Hobbies site.
SuperTigre G-90 Ringed w/Muffler
Bore: 1.803" (27.5mm)
Stroke: 0.976" (24.8mm)
Weight w/o muffler: 589g (20.66oz)
Weight with muffler: 765g (27oz)
Displacement: .90 cu in (14.73cc)
Output: 2.5 bhp at 14,800 rpm
RPM Range: 2,500-16,000
Width between centers of mounting holes: 50mm or 1.97"
Length between center of mounting holes: 20mm or 0.79"
Width of crankcase excluding mounting flanges: 42mm or 1.65"
Length from backplate to front of drive washer: 97mm or 3.82"
Height from bottom of crankcase to top of head: 108mm or 4.24"
Crankshaft size: 5/16-24
Suggested prop size: 12x8, 13x6

I think it has the info you need. [8D]
Old 06-05-2005 | 08:47 PM
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Cool....guess i never really read the specs on it. Thanks!!!!
Old 06-05-2005 | 09:22 PM
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Default RE: Building first kit 4 * 60.

Don't rush your biuld. I did alot and on my 4* 40 i am no redoing my wing where i messed up. It wa sa stupid mistake

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