hi im new.iv just got into rc planes.i crashed my first trainer after my instructor decided to take it up sooooooo high i couldnt see it and the wing folded.the reason.the ailerons had too much movement,anyone got any tips so the alerons wont move so far.iv also recently got a joy engineless glider.which i want to get upfirst to leasrn to fly.BUT once again a problem building.i cant seem to get the servos in right.anyone who has this model please help.



im only 15 and a beginer beginer....thanks

Hey Mike, Welcome

Moving the push rod in on the control horn (closer to the control surface) will give it less throw, moving it out will give it more, same deal on the servo horns too. You dont need much control throw at all, check out how much is required in you planes manual. All my throws on my trainer are around 1/2".

hope this helps, good luck

actually that would be put the rod closer to the center of the servo and farthest hole away from the control surface in the horn. -Tinman-

I could give enough tips and advice to go for 100 pages but the simplest advice to you is this, Your not the idiot, your instructor is, find another one.

WES,
TINMAN, is right you've got it backwards.

MIKE,

Can you E-MAIL me some pictures of what you're working on ??

DESERT RATT

Mike,

Wings don't fold due to too much throw on the control surfaces, they fold due to poor construction and/or overstressing the design from pulling out of dives to quickly.

You didn't say if you got the plane used (could have been damaged), or an arf...which you didn't quite get enough glue on.

Either way, I suggest going to your local club, and enlisting the help of some experienced builders to get you started. It is much better to have someone show you the ropes at first if youre having troubles, than to try and decipher opinions from us geezers who can't see what you have gotten into.

HUH??

Man Ive heard a lot of reasons for misshaps, but, ailerons moving too far????
OK, even if the ailerons have too much throw, wouldnt that just make it ROLL faster??
I understand its a trainer, but seems itd have to be at beyond trainer speed w/ barn door ailerons to have structural failure??
Think maybe there was a little ca left out or something???
Just a dumb thought.

Get another instructor, one you have knows less than you.

Have a goodun,John.

Fellas, your not seeing the potential problem here.
I think it lies inbeded in the fact that they are both Irish...

ha, ha,,, Couldn't resist the shot at ya paddy.

Yar instructor is a wee bit ova tosser but, the wings should not have folded up, no matter what

You may be Irish, but you're not stupid. You're asking what to do. Best advice so far is GET ANOTHER INSTRUCTOR.
There is no reason to fly your trainer that high. It should be checked somewhat for safety and structural integrity before it goes up. If you were told the throws were too big, then why weren't they checked on the ground. Lame excuse for someone learning on your dollar.
PLEASE get another instructor.

One of the basic fundamentals of flying is takeoffs,landings and basic flying patterns. Do not let your "new" instructor have you just fly wherever you please, if you do, your not learning basic discipline.
* Most new guys tend to let the plane fly them. "Hey I'm not doing this , the plane is!" Wrong jacko, you are. Fly the plane.
We have a fair percentage of good pilots here where I live who have no field courtesy at all, This also shows in flying ability. They just do as they please but we have an advantage. City owned and we call the cops to get them out.
Anyways, don't give up.

whoa thanks for the great response.well my father was lookin for a new instructor(i was at a club with a dumb instructor) and guess what.one of his friends (he didnt know he flew them) is a r/c fanatic.so hes gonna check my plane and get me up and running properly.i think hell be my new instructor(please god).did i mention my old instructor(ill call him Mrs Flys To High ) was actually smoking while it was up in the air.which aint good now is it.also do most instructers link 2 transmitters like 1 for instructor so he can take over when in trouble.mine didnt.he just grabbed it when i was turning too far.(after all i couldnt even see it)and i dont know how he could.it was a spectacular crash though.straight into the ground.the engine was buried into the ground.i had to get a screw driver to pri it out.that goes to show how much speed it got on its nose dive.

Most instructors use a buddy box[student and instructor connected]some don't,just trade the radio back and forth,even if you have to furnish your own cord and or box it would be cheaper than crashing.Buddy box is a compatable radio switched off.
Have a goodun,John.

Mike,

Hey, what the? Stupid,? 'cause your Irish? All of my ancestors are from Ireland, and I'm a self employed genius visionary!!!!!!
Really your not, your just a begginer! Find a new instructor, and keep at it! Ask a lot of questions on the Universe, and TAKE IT EASY!!!!!!
You can NEVER have to much knowledge.

Jetts

o.k so im a beginner then not stupid.thanks for the support.ill ask LOTS of questions and iv got a feelin u guys will have the answers.cause u guys know ALOT and I MEAN ALOT.ill probably be takin the trainer up on saturday.cause iv got school on weekdays.im gettin my dads friend to train me instead.tha last trainer didnt really care my plane crashed so no more him then.

once again thanks for the HUGE help

Hey, do they sell "Irish Spring" soap over their? i was just curious.

o.k.im gonna say probably

Hi Mike:

My oldest son's name is Mike, and our last name is Mahon. Guess where that name originates. And don't give us that "stupid" crap again. Please substitute "inexperienced" for "stupid". You are intelligent enough to ask questions and that is all in your favor. If you enjoy this sport/hobby, keep at it. Get yourself aligned with your new instructor and keep on keeping on. I've always wanted to visit your country, and maybe someday, if you invite us, we can all come and watch you win a national championship or whatever the equivalent is there. Consider us all your friend and KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS.

MM

WELL WE IRISH HAVE GOT EVERY WHERE.well thanks for the help guys.my next flight should be saturday with a new insrtuctor

Its only the Bloody English that use the Irish for all their stupid jokes.

Over here, they use the Polish for that.

hahahahahahah good one there.well im gettin ready for my flight by using the aileron tips you guys gave me

Thats not very nice.... im english and have the highest regard for the irish.

I guess it depends on your location. I grew up in New Hampshire. Being close to Quebec, the "French" got nailed.

So did you overcome your handicapp?


You, know if you to boys go to the rchat.com

Quote:

Thats not very nice.... im english and have the highest regard for the irish.


I am also English, and have the highest regard for the Human Being (well most of em)

Go Leeds.


Now then, Now then.

go man utd.


well iv had a couple of flights in my glider so bring on the i/c