Got a sky scooter myself, many mods, still flys quite often. It can handle wind just as well as my glows, in fact, i'm more likely to take it up in wind because if I crash it, i just glue it back together with 5 minute epoxy, and toss it up again! And the entire fusalage sells for around $20 if i remember correctly. ANYTHING involving balsa would be firewood after what I have put that through!

Hi again PaPa: Sorry I had to shorten that nickname, or suffer with typers cramp for the next 2 days and I'm hoping to fly today. I hate to see people become disgruntled on the first go round, or at all for that fact. As for doing a kit, I also suggest this option, as opposed to trying to scratch build your first plane. There is a lot of tech. stuff, IE center of gravity, control throws, datum line. down and side thrust. lateral balance, different props, size and pitch, and just a multitude of other things that can take you out of the game, before you get in, that the instructions, and plans will enlighten you to. Plus cutting all those little parts out by hand you will be in your forty's before you open a glue bottle, assuming you don't have much in the way of tools yet. The main thing, and you will hear this over, and over again, is to get help. Preferably someone with a buddy cord/box, so if you get in trouble they can take control in the blink of an eye, if that long. I've been flying for 4 years and still ask for help with new plane designs that I have no flying experience with. Radio, I am also faithful to Futaba, However it is important to find out what most club members are using so you can hook up your radio to their radio to use as a buddy box. Always glad to help if I can. Garry

Stay away from the electric foamies for now. You will trash it in a flight or two. I just sold mine. It is fun to fly for a day or two, but you can't do a lot with it. It won't handle much wind and is very brittle.

thats a pretty negative post, to a beginner , he cant do alot with it anyway, all he needs to practice is takeoff and landing and have some fun just floating around , with a big ole smile on his face knowin he's flying this thing,, wind is fun with my stick I can make mine hover horizontally in a 5 mph wind and just make it go straight up and down, so papa keep readin , look at the posts and sites and remember you dont have to have it today!!

One of the cheapest "Neat" airplanes I've seen yet, are the Pizza Box Flyers. Although not indestructible, this design gives you everything you want, and more.
To see video of it, just follow this link. I believe plans are included, and building steps are all listed on this site.

http://www.jcrc.com/PizzaBoxFlyer.htm

flyingrod, I didn't mean to sound negative, but you gotta admit, they are built very light, and very delacate. I believe a beginner would be very frusterated with one. I liked my Tiger moth, but just pulling a loop stressed the wings to a point where you would think they are going to come off. They are fun if you have experience, but I would think a new flier would want to learn on something he can have a blast with and not have to be so carefull with. You can slam something like an eagle around pretty bad and not hurt it, but if you pick up one of the GWS planes wrong, you can total it. They are fun, but just not a good first plane. Just my opinion.

Hey Papa:
Check SPAD's they are sturfy designs made of coroplast (which means cheap) that will help your budget and get invovlved in this great hobby of ours.

While you learn to fly on the SPAD, build yourself a 4*40 from SIG
this kit will give you awhole bunch of balsa sticks that you have to put together correctly, you can choose the colors and final design and then fly your creation!
www.spadtothebone.com
regards,
Patrick

PaPa-NeGeorgeo,

Since you're new to this hobby I would suggest you DO NOT BUY ANYTHING YET.

First spend some time on this sight and ezone. Go out to the hobby store and or a good bookstore and get some books geared for the beginner. Then READ THEM then ask questions. No one hear can tell you EXACTLY what you should or should not get.

Become an informed member of this hobby before you spend any money. Then once you have an idea of what this hobby entails in terms of time, money and skills you will then be able to understand the answers to your questions. I noticed you have started several threads here in an attempt to get an understanding of how this hobby works. My suggestion is after you have done some basic research come back and reread the answers to your posts.

Until then good luck with your research

Does a kit really need that much skill to assemble and exactly whats in a kit?

Dude, most of your questions can be answered by going to a hobby shop, talking to the staff, opening a kit and looking at it. you will find that there is quite a bit to do in building a plane, but none of it is hard and all of it is very enjoyable. You will understand then why people keep telling you not to try to scratch build one. Its not just slapping a board across another board and making the shape of a plane. There is more to it, and that is what makes it fun! Lots to learn and do in the hobby.

PaPa-NeGeorgeo,

One technique that is sometimes used when scatch building is to first (read this as before assembly) trace and cut out all the parts that will make up the airplane. What the scratch builder FIRST does is make HIMSELF a KIT....

When you by the kit the company has done this for you thats why its called a kit.

Please trust me and others on this point reread my other post go do some research and buy/borrow some reading material on model building in general radio controled airplanes specifically.

Your questions will be more informed and some of the confusion as to what parts are reusable, etc.. will be cleared up.

BTW Some kits are easy to build some kits are harder to build but DON'T think for a minute that by building a kit as opposed to scratch building that you'll miss out on any of the experiences that make this such a great hobby


One last thing like anything in life there is a progression you know crawl before you walk

In modeling one typically progresses from kits to scratch building.
Enjoy don't rush lifes to short

Like i said in my other thread im gonna go with the LT-40 kit with a 4 channel radio.
can anyone give me a small outline of what each channel should do i know a need throttle, elevator, rudder, airelons (if i really need them), and taking off (turning on ground) seems more than four channels?

:sleeping:

If this isn't Devils517, it's gotta be his country cousin.

You guys have given him many pages of accurate, detailed information and he has not bothered to read any of it.

LOL.... Christopher... maybe is a clone
or distant cousin.. at least this one seems more naive....
REgards,
Patrick

If anyone knows a good website that gives information on constructing kits or just info on rc planes please tell.
Thank you

Posted sleepy before I said I'd be nice.
Your on the site you need, but you also need to get with local pilots. The LHS (local hobby shop) can also help you.

I was a little upset because we were answering your questions but you were ignoring ours.

With all the crazy people in the world, I understand you must be careful about your location, but I didn't think mentioning the city would give you any problems.

Do you Know where the closest club flies?

I suppose if a guy was from Ottawa he might click on this link

http://www.maac.ca

and he would have access to a listing of local clubs in Canada.

He'd even have a phone number of a guy or two who might take him up for an introductory flight. If he was a polite guy and earnest enough.

On the other hand if he was simply being be-Devils-ish, he would probably just continue to post ingenuous questions just to see how patient you guys are.

Of course me, I'm just enjoying the humour of the whole thing.

sorry about ignoring some of ur posts,
sometimes i just dont have time reading everything (im getting way more replies than i expected thanks guys)
about telling u guys where i live (internet not as safe as it used to be) so i dont just throw out personal info like that.