I have a quick question for you guys. I fly an Avistar with an OS 46AX and feel like I am very good with it. I have increased the throw to max and am very comfortable. I can do low passes at full throttle inverted and fly inverted all day long. I can do inverted loops, knife edge (as good as it can) and almost everything else I can think of doing with this plane. I am looking for a second plane in a 60 size, but I am not sure the 4* is a worth while move for me since I am already on a semi-symmetical wing. I am worried I will get bored on the tiger 60 too quickly. I thought about a U-Can-Do 60 with a OS .91 or Saito 100. I am looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance guys.

I like my great planes big stick

I am just not a big fan on the look of sticks though.

wxman, it seems like you have the skills to fly sportsman and possibly 3d, so consider the Excelleron 90, or its smaller sister , the Excelleron 50. Both these aircraft are superior performers in all forms of aerobatics, you wont be disappointed.
the_madgenius , instructor downunder {Australia}

What do you think about the cloud dancer or funtana? To much plane.

wxman.... Hi... I also started with the Avistar/FX 46, 4*60/Mag 91.. I liked and
still have both... I also "had" a 46 UCD/S-100... I really like it, and I'm getting
another...

The "Do" flys great and can teach you a lot... But as with all 3D type models
they are built light, inturn they will not take much (ground) abuse... The gear
mount should be strengthen abit if you come in a bit hard at times... Be extra
careful when removing the covering on the stab. for installation.. I few of the
"Do's" had the stab. come apart. But most think its because of scoring the bulsa
The plane is a great slow flyer and floater with no bad habits and lands great..
IMO... it can be a great second plane for some... There is a big thread on
all of the "Do's"....

Get the U-CAN-DO and select the 91FX for 2 cycle or Saito 100 for 4 cycle.
You will enjoy this plane and it will allow you to fly slow or fast.
Keep the avistar for trying the new and wonderful.

Kit or ARF?

Wxman, just curious, planning on keeping that Avistar? I`ve since acquired other, more " advanced " planes, but decided to keep mine. Still fly it often and throughly enjoy it. Nice to be able to periodically haul out a plane you`re comfortable with and just FLY.

I am definitely going to keep the avistar. I figure I can use it for practice and always have a second plane to fall back on. I am curious if I can get it to hover, so I may try that when it warms up a bit here.

Anyway, thanks for the replies fellas. Raideron, I have also heard of a lot of broken gear on the U-Can-Do. The three that were in my club all broke off the landing gear, so I just felt like I couldn't make that buy with so much of the landing gear issues. After speaking with a few guys in my club who know how I fly, I ended up choosing the Sig 3D Mayhem ARF .72-.91,72-1/8". It was spoken of very highly and seems to have the characteristics I am looking for. One of the members who has it and flies with me a bunch just absolutely loves it. They agreed that I would probably grow out of the 4*60 and tiger 60 pretty quickly. As an added bonus, I think we can get it for me by Christmas! lol.

There's a guy at my club that did rolling circles, knife-edge (kinda), on the maiden flight of a kids avistar. After watching him do that I thought ...wow people want to move to a 2nd plane and I bet they dont realize how much this plane is capable of.

That being said....my 2nd plane was a Funtana .40.....dont regret it for a second. Will do anything you can dream up and lands like a ***** cat.

wxman... That's a great choice... Only thing I think the Mayhem really likes the
YS 110 type power.... I almost got a mayhem.. But got the Showtime for my 110

Don't get me wrong on the gear of the "Do"... The stock gear will break on harder
than normal landings, But she lands so light, so it's easy to make great landings...
I just added more epoxy and some triangle bulsa stock to the tank saddle area
from the block to that area... it's really easy... My gear came out once, out of many
many flights.. I ran out of fuel and could not get the nose quite back up so it
pancaked in hard. Other than that I've had no problems on the gear... ANd the "Do"
is a fun plane to fly... Reason for me in getting another 46 "Do" after my crash...

That Avistar will hover...... Mine hovered for a few mins with the 46FX 12.25X3.75
APC in it's stock form and a bit tail heavy...

I am going to work on getting the avistar to hover just out of curiousity.

I am just going to have to save a bit for the engine. Other than the YS, do you have any recommendations.

wxman, the Cloud Dancer 60 i can recommend as i have had one , i say had , as i had a midair with an eagle last year . The eagle survived but my cloud dancer didn't. I felt like shooting that bird. I had a super tigre 90 in the dancer and it performed awesome like. Thinking of getting another this christmas
the_madgenius

wxman:

What about converting your Avistar to taildrager configuration, and when you get used to it, get an Extra, maybe the Extra 300 60size from Seagull

Cheers

I think learning on an Avistar and pushing your skills is a great way to fly better. You sure sound ready for a more precise and faster plane. I, also, still have my Avistar and like to fly it. That is one really good acrobatic trainer once the weak area in front of the tail is fixed. :-)


I went from an Avistar to a GP SuperSportster 40. I also don't care much for the way sticks look. I really like the Sportster looks and the way it tracks. It is a fast plane but it also slows down well. I just bought an assembled Sportster 60 after much searching off of the Buy&Sell and am looking forward to flying it. I agonized between the SSportster and the FourStar but found the angst I had about
needing the FourStars forgiveness to be unnecessary.

I found the transition to the 40 pretty easy. I found the tail wheel to be a non-issue. The speed was a bit hard to get used to at first but you can just throttle back with this plane. The issue is that this plane has been discountinued if you want it in the 60 size. There is a 40 ARF if you are willing to stay at that size. I am using the SSportsters as a stepping stone the VectorFlight Edge 540 (glad I got one now!) I am finishing. It sounds like you might also be headed in that sort of direction. Have fun no matter what your choice!

KEEP YOUR AVISTAR, your next plane will be a Tiger 2 60
or a tiger 2 40 the land very good