Hi

I am contemplating a heli or a plane. the planes I am looking into are:

[link]http://www.hobby-lobby.com/tigermothtiny.htm[/link]

[link]http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HBZ7100[/link]

thoughts? feelings? have a better plane?

I would like to fly outside.....with a little wind, perhaps?

Thanks

Andy

Well, the biggest question that needs to be asked is what is your experience level in flying??

Ken

Since your asking this kind of question I am going to assume your a new guy. If that is the case learn to fly the plane. Learn to fly it really well. Then think about a heli.

David

Yep. I am new. 0 flying expirience. Thanks for stopping by. [8D]

Yea definitly go with a plane and one of the best planes to start off with is an Avistar

The Hobbyzone Super Cub you're considering is specifically designed for folks with zero flying experience to teach themselves how to fly. This would be a good choice for your first plane.

I wont question you on that one b/c i never flew that plane but i have flown the avistar. Let me tell you u can do anything with that plane. I took 5th place twice in a 2-day q500 race in ct with that plane, and i fly that in contest in my club i belong to and i do the limbo and vegas scamble etc... with this plane and it will go wherever you put it. You might also want to consider a gyro i think thats how u spell it i have never used one but i have heard they work great. Speaking of gyros im gettin hungry.LoL

I highly recommend the Hangar 9 Alpha 40. You can't go wrong with it.

Neither of the planes that you listed are very well suited for a flyer with no experience. I've put together a list of planes that make good trainers and second planes. All of them on the list are proven planes that are well suited for successfully letting students learn to fly, or advance to a second plane. Check out the list here
[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4537845/tm.htm] Looking for a trainer- what's available. (Updated 1-19-07) [/link]

Hope this helps

Ken

Andy,


What would you like to get started with? Planes or helis?? both are great fun and you will enjoy both. Each part though has different planes/helis that are suited for beginners. For planes id recommend a trainer like plane such as the Avistar, PT40, etc... Unless you are considering an electric trainer. For helis i would def. recommend the Raptor 50v2. Its a great beginner heli and you can rly have it setup for beginning flight. Id also suggest a flight simulator, they help with learning the controls and understanding what control sticks do what. Also finding an instructor in your area will be key to your success, they can look over your equipment and help you until they/you feel confident to fly on your own, you wont regret it, and youll meet some great people and learn alot about the hobby in the process.

David

Hi Guys

And thanks for the input. Lots of different oppinions.

I have always liked planes. And then I got the heli bug. I realize there are crashes with each, but more with helis (from what I am gathering).

Ken,

Thats a nice list of planes, and I have always been a big fan of P-51's. Forgive my ignorance, but isn't a 6 channel radio and a glow engine a bit advanced for a newbie (Hanger 9 P-51 Mustang PTS) ?

raflyboy, David:

I am assuming you mean Hobbico Avistar 40 Select 4-Channel RTF 59" ?

What I am gleaning from the info is that I should skip the electric and jump right into Nitro? thanks again for all the input.

When you get a plane find a instructor. They should be able to show you a lot, 6 channel or 4 or 10.

I think Hanger 9 P-51 Mustang PTS was listed as a good second plane.

- 6 channel radio is not necessary to get started but one of the philosophies is to get a radio that has some "room to grow". If you think you might get a more complex plane within a few years, get a little more radio than you need right now.

- Glow power is the way people always started (after gliders) when electric was not yet feasible. Glow planes tend to be large and fast enough that you absolutely must have help in learning to fly.

- Electric is a real option nowadays. Particularly small electrics: you can fly them in more places than you can a glow trainer. The down side is that small planes are more sensitive to wind and larger electric power systems are still costly.

- In any case, joining a club is a great idea. You'll have hands on help setting up and test flying, not to speak about the training, hints and tips, and joking at the field.

hey Andy,

It really depends on what your looking for. If you know that your going to be hooked on the hobby which it sounds like you might be [8D] then the better radio would be a good idea. Yup your correct: Hobbico Avistar 40 Select 4-Channel RTF 59" or you could get it without the radio and engine. when i purchased it 10yrs ago i got just the ARF(Almost rdy to fly) version, and i bought the radio/servos/receiver in a combo and then i bought the .40LA engine by O.S.

For the radio as a few have mentioned before, id recommend a radio that gives you some extra room to grow. I am not sure what others would recommend for them but ive had good luck with Futaba and Hitec radios. I havea Futaba 7CHP radio anda hitec flash 5 radio. When you start out with your first plane it may seem like overkill for a radio but as you grow youll be happy you bought it. You can save models in it so for example on the hitec flash 5 you can save 5 models i think, and on the 7chp i think its 8 or so. This makes it nice so as you move from your trainer to your next plane you can save both models on the radio. I think the technology with the 7chp is a little better than with the hitec flash 5.

So id recommend the futaba 7chp or 7cap. The 7chp is the one for helis but you can still set the models up for planes. With you mentioning helis this would also allow you to fly helis on it so you could have 1 radio for both


Hope this helps,

David

RCKen, you've put together a very good list. I'm a beginner and I've flown the Goldberg Eagle and Falcon and both were great (and you might want to add the Sr. Falcon ARF, which I've also owned). Some of the other planes that you've listed are being flown by beginners at our field and all are good choices. Again, good list.