agexpert - you have a bad day man? I don't see where you've contributed positively to this thread regarding training beginner pilots... only that you've attempted to belittle other's efforts and voice some kinda frustration only to digress into flaming others. You need to re-read the red text above the reply box. Take it to PMs if you have issues.

Civil is civil... your posts above stray from that.

I enjoy surfing this board more than any other board due to the civility that is maintained by the users and mods. Don't ruin it man.

somegeek

Hmmm, that did`nt go so well. Tell you what tough guy , you win . I don`t know how to respond without lowering myself down to your level. So you win, no worries. I give, uncle, now go flame somebody else.

Moochdoggie, Please...go cash your check..and you're welcome.

As for the Geek, I don't see honesty as 'flaming'. If you are sensitive about honest discussion, please seek alternative information sources.

That's a great way to get the stick movements across!

Another technique that you might consider is the Ragland Technique. Very simply, the instructor pinches the right stick with his right thumb and forefinger and the student puts his hand over the instructors and uses his thumb on top the stick. This technique can eliminate the buddy box for "early" training and gives the student instant feedback on the required movements.

This technique also works well for "stick slammers" because it gets them to "feel" how much movement is required.

After the student "masters" each stage, (turns, takeoffs, landings etc) then the buddy box is used to continue that lesson. The benefit from this technique is that "trial and error" is eliminated and the student gets the actual "feel" for required stick movements.

Congrats on Your Training Program!!

Greg Shane
N Little Rock, Arkansas

Notepad and pencil

Instructor-"Pull up!"
Student-"okay"
Instructor-"Nevermind"

This was not mean't to be funny.

Making much more of this than necessary. Most of this training would be near normal. Just need to develope a line of communication. No big deal.

As for writing it down - we did this extensively. The father brought a pen a paper, and we had a long conversation, discussing why his plane was not a good plane to learn on, how to balance the plane, and many other things. I also had them spend time on the simulator before we flew (this was in connection with an AMA TAG event).

To TheBrickLayer: Good tip about the fuse vibrations. When I get to the point of teaching them to tune the engine, I'll try it. I was also going to use a tachometer, since it gives a good visual indication. I also teach my students to put their fingers in the exhaust stream to ensure there is plenty of unburned oil coming out.

To nobodytwo: I've used the Ragland Technique with many of my students, particularly for the first flight to get rid of the stick slamming. We did this on Saturday, and it helped quite a bit.

To everyone, I would ask that you ignore agexperts attempts to bait you off topic. Thank you for your ideas.

Brad

I probably would never have realized that twisting soulders would be such a great idea for teaching someone, just knowing this means if when I run the big brothers event at our field next year i will get him or her to fly!

I know this is a bad idea to get into this but, you said



and then continue to list your friends with needs! this thread isn't meant to be used to highlight those with needs but used to encourage those unfamiler with those with special needs to help make their lives more comfortable and accepted. We all have or know someone that needs help. I know plenty of people with needs and 1 is in my family, it is hard for me on a mental level dealing with this, and for my mom.

Wouldn't it be nice to try something new and know you are in a hobby with people who care and will go the extra mile to help you and feel a part of something big.

Please this hobby is about helping others not telling people that they should not feel good about helping someone that needs help that some are not used to giving. I am 17 and I understand the concept that this hobby is as much about helping others in any way you can as well rcing, its not hard and another day is another chance to make someones day and tell others what you learned.

Dave trimmer

Edit: Sorry bkdavy I did not see the last line in your post, But i feel this should be the conclusion.

And isnt it interesting that we in this hobby are encouraged to help others out all we can, unless they have a disability in which case don't insult them by offering a hand let them do it themselves. treating a person like they are "normal" means offering a hand and advice. It means bending over backwards to help a student learn to fly.

Agexpert is right on one count however. We shouldn't do these things for the pat on our own backs. We shouldn't discuss them for the shower of rose pedals. However I don't see this as the case here, but merely opening a dialogue that may help to encourage people that may have thought there was no way to enter the hobby.

It's called tact and showing some respect in your dialogue towards others while disagreeing... 'course this explanation is wasted on you. I think Insanemoondoggie nailed it down nicely. You are the big winner. Here you go...



somegeek