what do you guys and girls think about a os 46la on this plane have a 40la but it is getting boring right now . is this too much engine for the plane and will the cg be thrown off by the weight of the engine

I have had .40 LA and it was not enough for me neither.
If you want more power you should go with .46 FX

.40 LA has 1.0 bhp at 1600, but .46 LA has 1.2 There is not that big difference.

That is my personal opinion.
Valdis

Fly until the wings fall off!!!!!!!!

The Airstrike has a even bigger wing and the 40 LX engine.
I have one here.
It will do 60+ MPH with no problem.
I also have a Seuper Star select.
I'm going to convert it to a tail dragger.
That big wheel up front sure grabs a lot of air.
Also consider making up some sort of cowling for the front.
That will also kick off some drag.
I made one and it looks good so now I need to get some thin balsa and make a real one

I had one of those. Certainly, it is not overwhelmed by power with the 40LA.... but if it is boring with 40 I don't think it will become much more exciting with a larger engine.

Before a new engine, you might want to try pulling the exhaust baffle and running 15% fuel. You may gain another 10-20% power. Certainly, the fx engines gain with improved exhaust. The la's should gain a bit as well... perhaps not as much, but some.

The 40la has just enough ooommph to pull through a small loops, stall turns, rolls, immelmans, split-s's, etc. As I recall.. the stall turns where quite nice.

For more fun, excitement, and challenge why not try something like running through the sportsman aerobatic pattern sequence. The plane should be able to get through it. It takes some practice to do smoothly and will force you improve your skills.... no cash outlay!

Are you running an 10x6? You'll get more low speed thrust from an 11x4. I'd give it a try for kicks. I find lots of thrust for good vertical lines is more fun than raw speed... that's me.

I'd also suggest a 46fx if you do upgrade.

Well the Airstrike is nothing but a slightly bigger Super select trainer with a 46 LX engine on it.
That will do 60+ MPH.
Also I think it will do 70 or a bit more with a different prop and converting the plane to a tail dragger.
That big wheel really grabs air and slows the plane down.
Another thing that can be done and I may do it since I have an extra wing.
Thats to clip the wing tips and taper them down and get rig of that 45* cut that most trainers have.
Will be nice to see just what that does.
Thanks for the post

thanks for all the input on the post lot of differnt things for me to try

I have a Superstar 40 with a .46FX turning a 11x7 which does great IMO. It will take off very strong and is airborne very quickly also. It lifts almost immediately. The 46fx has 1.62 HP. I can fly inverted and pull out vertically straight up while giving it some throttle with no problem. The plane has not been radared, but it has no problem quenching that need for speed desire. It has plenty of power to do snaps, rolls and lopes. I fly at less than half throttle and it does fine with plenty of speed. You know the power is there if you want it to do a little something special with the plane. Ofcourse, it will not torque roll or do a knife's edge, but for a trainer the OS .46FX is a great match. You will not be dissappointed if you put a .46FX into that plane, I promise you. The motor is very powerful and will satisfy your need. Plus after you have mastered the trainer, you can always put that motor into another .40 size plane and drag it around the sky with not problem.

DTB

WOW!!!.
I heard so many say they got bored with the trainer.
I have an Airstrike that has not been flown yet.
But I have the Super Select 40 and it does well with the OS 40 engine.
The Airstrike wing is about 6 inches longer and with a 46LX will do 60 +MPH from what it says in the manual.
Now with the Super select 40 with a bit of a shorter wing I can see how much better it will fly with a 46LX on it.
I have all the throws on mine set for MAX.
With that 46LX have you tried a knife edge turn by holding the nose up with the rudder?
Lots of fun for the price

Whirley Bird, I must say WOW!! to you. I see that you registered in Jan '03 and you already have 845 post. WOW!!! I have a total of 2 including this post. HAHA..

I do think that a trainer can be a lot of fun and even easier to fly, especially if you put a servo on each wing, therefore you can enable the flaperon option to help slow for landings or other stunts. I haven't tried any knife edge stunts with the trainer yet. I only do the simple stunts with the trainer. All the throws are set to the suggested throw setting for the plane. I thought about increasing the throws to see how the plane would react. There is a gentleman in my club that has flown for probably longer than I have been alive and I am 29. But he brings his old trainer to the field to play around with sometime which looks very close to a Superstar or Avistar trainer. He has a .40 size trainer with a YS four stroke installed which literally drags the plane behind the motor. I have seen that trainer do some amazing things. The plane is not modified, it is merely overpowered severely, but that makes for a spectacular experience even just watching what a trainer can do with a lot of power and an experience individual behind the transmitter. Just imagine if I added a tuned pipe to my 46FX on a trainer.

Hmmmm, I may just have to do that..

Rather than mounting 150hp to the nose of a trainer you might consider a different plane. Trainers are not designed for that kind of thing. You're not stretching your abilities that way, at least as much. When you're competent with a trainer move on. You'd be amazed at how much better a roll or hammerhead, split-S, etc looks with a plane that's aerobatic. (I still fly trainers from time to time for relaxation) Suggestions, Stiks (any of them), 4*40,60,120, Venture, Venus, 40 size pattern Arfs, etc, etc, etc. If you feel the need for speed, the Lanier Quickie ARF's will get you 100+ mph on a 40.

I agree 100% with the "moving on" statement. I also have a Four Star 60 with a .91 YS four stroke installed, which is a great match for this plane, but I do enjoy throwing the trainer around in the sky also from time to time. You are correct, more skills can be achieved with a plane that is designed to do more of that type of flying.

Hi DTB,
Well you can put a big engine and just drag the plane through the air but thats not fun.
I like to improve the aerodynamics first to see what the plane will do then add power after.
Thats just what i'm doing with my Avistar now.
On my older Super select 40 i'm clipping the wing tips and shaving them down and remove that 35* up slope at the tips.
Then i'm going to feather down the tips both on the bottom and top.
I hope to have the Avistar converted by the weekend but the weather is going to be in the 60's so I may get in some flight time,
Stay tuned because i'll be sending pictures this way.
Thanks for the post

Whirley Bird, please do keep me informed of how it comes out. I would love to see a photo of the finished project. I look forward to seeing the end product photos.

Good luck,

Don't worry,
I'll keep you posted.
Look for pictures on Monday evening.
Check this thread out,
A few guys had walked me through on a bad monikote covering job.
I have pictures before and after.
Take a look at hoe the tail section came out.
The rest of the plane is just as good.
I see your getting the post count up huh
Heres the link.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/showthread...834#post766811]

well thanks for all the info but looks like i will be moving on after flying the kadet lt 40, and the hobbico superstar select, i have been flying a friends sig somthin extra a couple of times the wife came home with a great planes supersportster 40 mark II from the hobbyshop all i asked her for was some 10x7 props gotta love her

Hi DTB,
I started tonight.
I have the tail section mounted and the mains removed.
I have the dremal tool out and i'm trying to locate the router tool to cut in the notch for the main gear.
I see no reason why I won't be able to finish up and post a picture on Monday

armyrcer...

Will your wife adopt me?

I highly agree with that statement. I also highly agree with everyone who's suggested the OS 46 FX. I have one on my Sudokhoi and it is ballistic!

Right on again Jim. Sticks (Ultra sticks, Super sticks and Big sticks are all variants of the original Ugly sticks) make fantastic 2nd airplanes. Terrific ground handling, super slow landing speeds and all but 3D aerobatic ability. I think you would have a ball with a 46 FX on a .40 size Stick.

jim she said yes as long as she gets a tax credit claims she has to many kids in the house now ha ha will post pics soon of the sportster mike

Whirley Bird, how is the process coming on your project? I forgot to tell you that my trainer got totaled Saturday afternoon after a mid air collision. I was flying the trainer for about 3 minutes when a hot rodder took off at full throttle and not paying attention to the surrounding flyers and climbed directly into my left wing after takeoff which of course took me out of the sky. Just imagine balsa wood pieces in the sky from 2 planes at impacting at high speed. My trainer fell and landed nose first in the mud, which put the front end about half a foot into the ground, but the throttle was cut and the carb was closed so no mud got into the motor which is great. The fuselage was not hurt too bad, but still damaged to the point where it will not fly. The tail will have to be replaced. I can't say that I wasn't a little P'ed off but I am happier that it was the trainer instead of my 4*60. Plus, the guy bought me a brand new Avistar replacement which is a sport trainer, so in a way it is better that I got hit, but I guess I am still P'ed at the inconvenience of someone not being a courteous flyer. The plane can be rebuilt, but I don't feel like doing it right now. Maybe a little later.

Anyway, good luck with your project.. Just wanted to let you know what happened..

DTB you are very lucky the guy replaced your plane mid air collisons are usually considered nobody's fault..
If the scenerio that you just described has you P'ed maybe you should consider a different hobby

Crashem, I was very lucky about the new plane I received. I do believe any one would be slightly p'ed if that happened to them regardless of who is to blame. Those are the chances that we take in this hobby, but to say, maybe it is not for me is a little strong of a statement. Yes, there was a mid-air crash, but that doesn't mean one has to be stay happy if something like that happened. I wasn't overly p'ed off, but at the same time, nobody is going to be happy about losing a model. I think my reaction was perfectly normal. There was no altercation between the guy and myself. We handled the situation at hand and moved on.

No big deal,
DTB

DBD,
Glad you got things worked out and know that the unexpected can happen anytime.
Words like this from the EXPERTS (If the scenerio that you just described has you P'ed maybe you should consider a different hobby) would Po me more then anything else.
I often ask myself why some others feel they have the right to tell another person to consider another hobby
LIke you stated no one is going to be happy no matter who's fault it was.
Keep em' flying

DTB,

Unfortunately with this type of medium sometimes the tone of a response can be misunderstood. Since it appeared that you are new to this hobby I was trying to explain to you that mid-airs are just one of the risks (among others) each of us takes when flying. If by using the word P'oed you meant disappointed then I misunderstood you and would also agree nobody likes to loose a plane it is simply a risk we all take. I was also trying to explain to you that you were very lucky that the person in question was honorable enough to replace you plane that is rare because as I said usually a mid-air is treated as the modeling equivalent of a no-fault car accident.

My suggestion of finding another hobby was meant more as a warning that if losing a plane will get you PO'ed then maybe this might not be for you because sooner or later all models bite the dust. Again that was not meant as criticism. I only bring it up because on several occasions I've seen new flyers lose it when a plane goes and it wasn't pretty.

I have two rules when it comes to this hobby

1. If I can't afford to crash then I don't own it.

2. I fly for fun and when it stops being fun I stop flying and move on..


WB,

As usual your comments are as astute as they are enlightening... BTW Seen any more 150 MPH .46 stock Trainers flying around lately

Just one of them days