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Old 09-18-2007 | 01:02 PM
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It's no more of a crutch than "pointing the stick at the low wing" is.

It is not a crutch, it is a tool. As time goes by, your fingers get used to doing the right thing no matter which way you're facing.
Old 09-18-2007 | 01:19 PM
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ORIGINAL: Jeffryz

I would like some ideas on how to keep my mental orientation coordinated with the planes controls when doing the inverted and incoming patterns. What techniques do you use?
Ignore the guy flying next to you yelling out, "hey watch this!"
Old 09-18-2007 | 01:32 PM
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ORIGINAL: Cyclic Hardover

Ignore the guy flying next to you yelling out, "hey watch this!"
Wasn't that at the very top spot for "most often heard right before an RC plane crash" ?

Old 09-18-2007 | 02:04 PM
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Looking over the shoulder works. But when I was learning to fly, it was awkward for me. So I tried keeping my body facing the runway and pointing my foot in the down range direction. For example, if the plane was moving from my right to left, I would point my left foot to the left. I could mentally focus on the direction my foot was pointing while controling the plane. As I remember, the only time I really needed to do this was during landing approaches. And after a while it all became instinct.
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I had a hard time at first with the whole "the plane is coming at me" thing as well.. What worked for me was to quit thinking about it! I found that trying to think "wing down/so move the stick this way" was difficult.. What did work for me was to do a bunch of level traffic patterns while doing small "dutch rolls" the whole time. Basically rocking the wings up and down the whole time.. Not much, just 10 deg of bank or so..Do that a few times and your brain will be trained on what happens when you move the sticks.. The repitition will really help this to become instinctual for you..

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well i have been reading this forum , and i have come to the decision that seeing as here in Australia we mostly use mode 1 , and in America, you use mode 2 , so my guess is that saves turning the transmitter upside down . Now to get back to the orginal subject , i teach , a wing drops , put a stick under it to push it back up. if model is flying across you , right to left or vice versa , nose it in , or tail it away , and when inverted , like my compatriot said above , put your thumb behind the stick , so you can only push , not pull.
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Old 09-19-2007 | 04:28 AM
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well i have been reading this forum , and i have come to the decision that seeing as here in Australia we mostly use mode 1 , and in America, you use mode 2 , so my guess is that saves turning the transmitter upside down . Now to get back to the orginal subject , i teach , a wing drops , put a stick under it to push it back up. if model is flying across you , right to left or vice versa , nose it in , or tail it away , and when inverted , like my compatriot said above , put your thumb behind the stick , so you can only push , not pull.
Bill, down under
I love it when a newbie is baited to fly low inverted flights and then he usually ends up pulling ... hehehehe ... a lot of dust and balsa.

ps I done its enough times myself too!
Old 09-19-2007 | 07:17 AM
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Especially when that newbie has a bad temper
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Old 09-19-2007 | 09:11 AM
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The easy way to me to get used to flying inverted and what not was to set the plane upside down at home and learn that way. This was approx 15 years ago when I started flying and I was 8 at the time. Call me nuts, but it helped. It was my old man's idea, not mine.

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Old 09-19-2007 | 09:19 AM
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Minn - LMAO!!!

Tim - when I learnt to fly many many moons ago, we were given ground lessons. We are shown what the plane does when you input certain things. Recently, I was teaching a newbie, I showed him all that and it did help him understand how/why a plane flies.
Old 09-19-2007 | 09:41 AM
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ORIGINAL: rctrax

In my opinion looking over your shoulder is a crutch and does not teach you anything. After you have learned to land this way then you have to relean how to land facing the plane which means learning all over agian.
I know I already commented on this, but last night I was backing out of a long driveway and truned around to my right to look over my shoulder as I backed out.

I was just wondering if rctrax uses this same crutch when he's backing HIS car up. Or does he just look in the mirrors and go like a bat outta hell?
Old 09-19-2007 | 10:03 AM
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Minn - I use the reverse sensors ... heheheheehee
Old 09-19-2007 | 03:01 PM
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Trun the stick in the same direction that the wing is dipping to level the model (when model is coming to you).





Old 09-19-2007 | 03:37 PM
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So don't look over your shoulder BUT point the transmitter in the direction the plane is flying.

Point the antenna in the direction the plane is flying. It works without any thought at all.

Don't have to remember any rules or nothing.

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