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Old 07-08-2008 | 04:24 PM
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I have a new satio 100 that I am trying to start, my electric starter will not turn it over as it has a lot of torque.I also tried my heavy duty drill but it spun on the cone. It took me about 20 min. to get it to start with the stick. Is there an easier way?
Old 07-08-2008 | 04:56 PM
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What type of starter? I use a geared starter and it starts a Satio 300 twin with no problems. Winding the engine backwards to comp and then try. Some starters need a little wind up time. Also how good is the battery you are using?
Also check out [link=http://saito-engines.info/throttle_setup.html]HERE[/link] for proper setup.


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Old 07-08-2008 | 05:02 PM
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It must be flooded, surely. 20 minutes to start - unheard of!!!!

Fill the tank, open the throttle to a little above idle, wind back off compression, hit her with the starter - bingo!!! first time every time with every Saito I have and everyone I have seen!!!
Old 07-08-2008 | 05:48 PM
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You may have been flooded or your battery is a little low.
I start my Saito 100 with a standard Hobbico starter, no problem.
Old 07-08-2008 | 06:03 PM
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You may have been flooded or your battery is a little low.
I start my Saito 100 with a standard Hobbico starter, no problem.
I agree, most ringed 4-strokes spin over pretty easy compared to ABC 2-strokes. If it is flooded, I would be careful that you don't hydraulic lock it and bend the connecting rod.
Old 07-09-2008 | 02:14 AM
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I have to agree with The Ghost and pnightin. spin the prop backwards to compression, then hit it with the starter. I just did the break in on mine this weekend and what a dream to start. Im using just a standard starter as well. If you flood the engine and it locks, you can try to spin it backwards a few times to clear the excess fuel out of the cylinder. If you dont, it will bind up and bend the rod when you apply the starter.
Old 07-09-2008 | 05:54 AM
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Please, when you're spinning it backwards remove the glow starter, it takes but a small flick to start these bad boys.
Old 07-09-2008 | 11:20 AM
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Also check that muffler points downwards, the fuel residues should not return into the engine, and it is a commonly cause that impedes some modelers to start this kind of engines.
Old 07-09-2008 | 11:31 AM
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New engines may be problematic for a standard starter.

Once they have been run for a while, a standard electric starter should have no problems with the Saito 1.00.

One option is to "bump" your spinner with the starter already spinning.

Another is to increase the voltage on the starter to provide more power.

I've been able to start 50CC gassers w/o any problems when I switched to a 14.8v 4000mAh battery setup for my Hobbico High Torque starter. I'm in the process of doing the same for my "standard" Hobbico too.

Old 07-09-2008 | 12:19 PM
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I had the exact problem with my New Saito 100, I went and got a heavy duty starter and a new battery (as it worked better when I attached it to the car battery) it finally spun and started the engine.

Now that I have 5 gallons through it it turns over much easier, seems they are rather tight to start with.

OH YEAH like others said make sure you spin the prop all the way back to the compression, give it a running start to go through the compression.

It will get better... You just need to get there!!!!
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I know 4-strokes can be nasty to hand start but that's exactly what I did with my new Saito 100. I have a HD leather guard which slips over my index and middle fingers. I was able to hand start my brand new engine very easily. I just prime it by closing off the muffler outlet with my thumb, turn the engine through one or two compression strokes then back flip the prop against the compression.

Now, with a couple of tanks of fuel through it, it had noticeably more bounce to the compression stroke. I was careful to run it EXACTLY per Saito's break-in instructions.
Old 07-09-2008 | 06:03 PM
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Go to club Saito and you will learn everything you need to know about your new engine. I started mine the first time with an electric starter and had to turn the engine backwards against compression and then start the starter and hit the engine with it. Some of them are tight and a little hard to start at first, but after you get it running a few times it gets easy. Most of the guys at my field don't even use a starter. They just use the spinner and their fingers and spin the engine backwards and it fires right up.
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