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Old 07-18-2008 | 03:57 PM
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I am trying to set up my Futaba 9C transmitter to use Channel 2 and 5 as elevator servos (1 and 7 are ailerons) and at the moment ch5 is controlled by VR(E) (the flap switch on the right hand side of the transmitter) and ch2 is an elevator.

Does any one know how to make ch 5 another elevator ch or is there another way? I have spent 3 hours reading the maual, looking at the FAQ on the futaba website, google and rcuniverse searches and this is my last resort before taking a trip into town to the model shop to ask the guys in there how to do it.

I'm sure it's dead easy but can someone please spell it out to me please.

Old 07-18-2008 | 04:02 PM
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This is from the Futaba FAQ on the 9C. You can find the answer here: [link]http://futaba-rc.com/faq/faq-9c-q512.html[/link]

or, here is a reprint

Use channel 7 for the second elevator servo instead of 5.


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I want to set up two servos to operate a single surface, but not use a preset feature like flaperons or ailevators to do so. How can I do this with a mix?
You can use a free mix to set up the twin elevator servos, or any other two-servo combination by simply doing a pmix of the primary channel to the secondary channel at 100% with trim on and link on, offset off and switch assignment NULL so that the mix is always active. Here is an example of mixing 2 to 7:

A. Standard mix from 2 to 7 to work twin elevators:


___ Press Mode (twice if needed) to open Advanced Menu
___ Dial up or down to a free Programmable Mix and press Dial to select
___ Cursor Down twice and turn dial LEFT to activate mix
___ Cursor Down and turn Dial to select channel 2 (elevator)
___ Cursor Down and turn Dial to select channel 7 (Aux1)
___ Cursor Down and turn Dial left to turn Link ON
___ Cursor Down and turn Dial left to turn Trim ON
___ Cursor Down twice and confirm switch position is NULL
___ Cursor Down, pull positive elevator, and turn Dial Left to -100%
___ Push negative elevator, and turn Dial Left to -100%
___ Press End twice to close Menu

B. Turn off default control of channel 7 in Aux-Ch screen so VRC does not affect the second elevator servo.

___ Press Mode Button (twice if needed) to open Basic menu
___ Turn Dial up or down and Press to select Aux Ch
___ Press Cursor Twice and then turn Dial left until reads CH7 NULL
___ Press End twice to close Menu
Old 07-18-2008 | 04:03 PM
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I forgot, I am using a Futaba R608FS 8-Channel 2.4GHZ FASST Receiver.
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Doesn't matter. The programming is the same.

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Stevie, Have you got it going? I don't have my radio in front of me but I can walk you through it on Sat. Most people forget to do step B on the chart Ken posted. If you skip this step then Ch 5 will work like a retract and not be proportional. Step B should really be done first. Also the step by step showes using -100%. Depending on servo oriantation it could be +100%. If possible you should have your plane on while doing it so you can watch the servos.

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Thanks guys, I shall give this a go on Sat and let you know how I get on.

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If you just plug the other elevator servo into Ch 8 and turn it on that's the automatic default for two elevator servos. Then just plug the battery into ch 5. The RX doesn't care what open box you plug the battery into.
It's in the 9-C instruction book, you don't even have to go on line to figure it out.
If you have A problem hit me with an email and I will walk you through it. My TX is out in the shop so I have to work from memory right now.
Sure, like that would work!!!
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Gray Beard is right but not all of my RXs have 8 channels. This is why I use Ch-5. Nothing I own has retractable gear anyway.

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That's true but Steve is running an 8ch RX.
It took me A while but one day it hit me that all of my RXs were 8ch and the Futaba default for the other elevator servo was ch8. By A while I'm talking A couple of years and A BIG pile of planes. I have never heard anyone say I was either smart or quick!! Depending on what I was doing I too was using channels 5, 6, or 7 and assigning channels all over the place. Mostly ch 5 though.
Then one day I was finishing up A plane for A friend that sent me A nice 9ch RX and when I spotted where the instructions said to put the extra elevator servo it was like getting hit with A thunder bolt!!!
It's just such an easy way to do it and getting the sub trim set up so both sides are correct.
Anyway, it may take me A while but I did get it right after A while.
Just passing on all that newly discovered information, it may save someone else A few years of walking the long way around the block.
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ORIGINAL: RCKen

This is from the Futaba FAQ on the 9C. You can find the answer here: [link]http://futaba-rc.com/faq/faq-9c-q512.html[/link]

or, here is a reprint

Use channel 7 for the second elevator servo instead of 5.


Radio System FAQ
I want to set up two servos to operate a single surface, but not use a preset feature like flaperons or ailevators to do so. How can I do this with a mix?
You can use a free mix to set up the twin elevator servos, or any other two-servo combination by simply doing a pmix of the primary channel to the secondary channel at 100% with trim on and link on, offset off and switch assignment NULL so that the mix is always active. Here is an example of mixing 2 to 7:

A. Standard mix from 2 to 7 to work twin elevators:


___ Press Mode (twice if needed) to open Advanced Menu
___ Dial up or down to a free Programmable Mix and press Dial to select
___ Cursor Down twice and turn dial LEFT to activate mix
___ Cursor Down and turn Dial to select channel 2 (elevator)
___ Cursor Down and turn Dial to select channel 7 (Aux1)
___ Cursor Down and turn Dial left to turn Link ON
___ Cursor Down and turn Dial left to turn Trim ON
___ Cursor Down twice and confirm switch position is NULL
___ Cursor Down, pull positive elevator, and turn Dial Left to -100%
___ Push negative elevator, and turn Dial Left to -100%
___ Press End twice to close Menu

B. Turn off default control of channel 7 in Aux-Ch screen so VRC does not affect the second elevator servo.

___ Press Mode Button (twice if needed) to open Basic menu
___ Turn Dial up or down and Press to select Aux Ch
___ Press Cursor Twice and then turn Dial left until reads CH7 NULL
___ Press End twice to close Menu

This worked perfectly. Thanks guys.
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I've got dual elevators and a 6EX radio - can I slave ch. 5 to elevator and use separate channels and thus have the ability to adjust endpoints? Or is there better way, 'cause I'd love not to burn up one of my only two mixes. It's got dual ailerons and dual elevators, all digital servos.

Thank you.
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GA, read your radios instructions and see what they say or go to the Futaba site Ken posted. I think, here is one of those short term problems I have, I think I have one of the 6EX radios out in the shop, someone gave me one?? No instructions so if I want to use it I will have to go to the Futaba site too. I think, here comes that problem again, that even my old 7ch Hitech needed A Y harness for two elevator servos?? I think, there was A p-mix for them but it had something to do with the trim or sub trim?? That radio I gave to A friend so I may have to look at the instructions to see how I used to do it?? That dang thinking thing.[>:] If you look it up post back here and tell us how it is done.
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ORIGINAL: RCKen

This is from the Futaba FAQ on the 9C. You can find the answer here: [link]http://futaba-rc.com/faq/faq-9c-q512.html[/link]

or, here is a reprint

Use channel 7 for the second elevator servo instead of 5.


Radio System FAQ
I want to set up two servos to operate a single surface, but not use a preset feature like flaperons or ailevators to do so. How can I do this with a mix?
You can use a free mix to set up the twin elevator servos, or any other two-servo combination by simply doing a pmix of the primary channel to the secondary channel at 100% with trim on and link on, offset off and switch assignment NULL so that the mix is always active. Here is an example of mixing 2 to 7:

A. Standard mix from 2 to 7 to work twin elevators:


___ Press Mode (twice if needed) to open Advanced Menu
___ Dial up or down to a free Programmable Mix and press Dial to select
___ Cursor Down twice and turn dial LEFT to activate mix
___ Cursor Down and turn Dial to select channel 2 (elevator)
___ Cursor Down and turn Dial to select channel 7 (Aux1)
___ Cursor Down and turn Dial left to turn Link ON
___ Cursor Down and turn Dial left to turn Trim ON
___ Cursor Down twice and confirm switch position is NULL
___ Cursor Down, pull positive elevator, and turn Dial Left to -100%
___ Push negative elevator, and turn Dial Left to -100%
___ Press End twice to close Menu

B. Turn off default control of channel 7 in Aux-Ch screen so VRC does not affect the second elevator servo.

___ Press Mode Button (twice if needed) to open Basic menu
___ Turn Dial up or down and Press to select Aux Ch
___ Press Cursor Twice and then turn Dial left until reads CH7 NULL
___ Press End twice to close Menu

Ok I have a 7 ch hitec 2.4 with 9C radio
I want to use channel 5 as my second elevator. I used this and set it up using 5 instead of 7 it worked but the ch 5 elevator is lagging until full travel is obtained.
I tried switching to channel 7 on the elevator using that mix and set up 5 as the other aileron. Only now both ailerons move and one elev move with them.
I am so confused I wnt to slit my wrists.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Larry
Old 08-10-2010 | 01:07 PM
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Larry, did you go into your AUX channels and turn CH 5 to Null? You have to do this or it thinks it's a retract servo.

David

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