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Old 03-03-2009 | 01:10 AM
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Hi How well do you think this engine (RCGF 20cc Gasoline Model Airplane Engine CM-6 MINI Plug) will work in this plane. http://www.top-flite.com/airplanes/topa0135.html
Would like tp try something different.

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Old 03-03-2009 | 01:38 AM
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i think it would be great, and you wouldnthave to worry about it being tail heavy, what you dont want in a warbird
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Thanks. Found this engine fome a seller on RCU I think I will give it a try. Also what do you know about this engine. Also where do you think I can find a exhaust that will work for this setup.
Old 03-03-2009 | 02:16 AM
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you would wanna run that engine inverted, the stock muffler should work....... if not you can try one of these http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/n...roduct_id=3557, i honestly dont have any experience with rcfg, from reading on rcu they seem like ok engines.....
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That's alot of engine...20cc gas is the same as a 120 glow.....I wonder if you'll have room under the cowl for the engine and ignition, and if there's enough room for the carb.....it should have some vertical to it
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Hi here is the specks on this plane. Thinking about using poly u for covering whitch will make plane littie heaver. I have a F6F Hellcat with a G20 in it it fit fine under the cowl. Also where can I find a good price on retracts for this plane I found a few forums on this plane for building help but none with a gas engine. I wat told that this plane was tail heavy with glow engines, instead of adding lead I will just add little heaver engine.


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Engine Specification

Displacement: 20cc

Bore and Stroke: 30mm X 28mm

Total weight: 2.38 Lbs, not including ignition battery pack

Walbro type carburetor

Power: 2.2 HP@ 7500rpm

RPM Range: 1500-9800 rpm

Recommended Props: 16X6, 16X8, and 18X5

Ignition: Auto Advance DC-CDI Electronic, made by RCEXL with CM-6 MINI Plug

Fuel:Pump gasoline and 2 stroke oil

Overall width: 6.00"


SPECIFICATIONS
Stock Number: TOPA0135
Wingspan: 63 in (1600 mm)
Wing Area: 713 in² (46 dm²)
Weight: 8-10 lb (3630-4540 g)
Wing Loading: 27-32 oz/ft² (82-98 g/dm²)
Fuselage Length: 55 in (1400 mm)
Engine Required: 2-stroke .61-.90 cu in (10-15 cc) or 4-stroke .91-1.20 cu in (15-20 cc)
Radio Required: 4-7 channel w/4-8 servos

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That's alot of engine...20cc gas is the same as a 120 glow.....I wonder if you'll have room under the cowl for the engine and ignition, and if there's enough room for the carb.....it should have some vertical to it
20cc gas is more like .60-.70 glow... it should be fine since most people would put a .75 to 1.00 two stroke or 1.00 - 1.25 four on this plane.
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Hi!
It will work but the plane will be rather heavy and not fly that well!
Better engine choice would be a 15cc two stroke or a .90 four stroke both with a 14x6 or 15x4W APC prop.
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I think it will work just fine. It will be close to or just a few ounces heavier than the OS 1.20 4-stroke shown on the kit plans.

I've seen one of these kits with a Zenoah G-26. I've also seen several other warbirds with this sort of large, round cowl using small gas engines such as Zenohas, MLD's, etc. I have this P-47 kit still half completed and I can tell you that you'll have room for the engine.

It may balance OK or you may have to get creative with your servo and battery placement to hit the right CG. Try not to add weight if it can be avoided.

Actually, this really isn't a beginner airplane or setup by any means and you might get a lot better answers over in the warbird forum. I'll bet several of those guys have done something like this already.
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Thanks I know that it is a hard plane but I like building and learing new things, but with good support I think that I can complete this project. Also looking for a good pirce on retracts, where would be a good place to buy from.



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Old 03-03-2009 | 11:54 AM
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I built the scale model of the same plane when I was a kid. It was the bonnie razorback just like they show! I think the razorback is much better looking than the bubble canopy, but it probably restricted some of the pilots view.
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Thanks I know that it is a hard plane but I like building and learing new things, but with good support I think that I can complete this project. Also looking for a good pirce on retracts, where would be a good place to buy from.



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The building is one aspect but it's the flying that is the biggest problem. It's going to be a warbird with fairly high wing loading and not nearly as forgiving as a trainer or most sport planes. The take-off's and especially the landings will require a lot more skill. I'm just pointing that out since this is a beginners forum read by a lot of people brand new to the hobby. I don't want them to get the idea that a nice warbird is something to start out on. If you are at the point you are ready for it though then go for it.

As for the retracts, don't skimp. I would by good heavy duty gear from someone like Robart, Century Jet, etc. Retracts that break, don't work or bend can ruin your day and possibly your airplane.

Again, there is probably a ton of information on this plane and what works and what doesn't in the warbird forum.
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Thanks, I have three trainers to learn on just just building up my hanger for later, plus I'm learing what it takes to make the planes fly I belive this will help well round me for this hobby.
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Hi Well I think that I found the engine that I will use on this plane it is a Sato 1.00 2 cylinder. But the question I have is if I POLY U this plane will this engine work ok?

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Stock Specifications:

(These are manufacturer specs and may not necessarily reflect the specs of the item for sale)

Engine Type: 4-Stroke
Displacement: 1.000 cu. in.
Cylinders: 2
General Specs:
- 2 cylinder s
- Displacement: 1.000 cubic inches
- Bore: 0.921 (in.)
- Stroke In: 0.748 (in.)
- Shaft: 7 x 1mm
- Low RPM: 2500
- High RPM: 10000
- 1.000 bhp
- Weight (no muffler): 28.92 oz.

Applications:
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- Standard Airplane

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Old 03-04-2009 | 09:28 PM
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That might stick out the sides of the cowl pretty good, not sure.
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I have made a offer on this engine if it won't fit in the cowl what would be a good plane for this engine.


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I have made a offer on this engine if it won't fit in the cowl what would be a good plane for this engine.


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My J-3 cub would be an excellent plane for that engine! My address is ........................................... Seriously, any scale .90 size plane would like that.
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what would be a good plane for this engine.


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The GP Skybolt I have for sale here on RCU
Old 03-04-2009 | 10:15 PM
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Thanks. Well the guy that I made the offre to just call me and now I own this engine and it need a good home not a box. Looking for ideas.
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A Corby Starlet would look good with that engine.
Old 03-04-2009 | 10:34 PM
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Hi. What is a Corby Starlet plane?
Old 03-04-2009 | 10:41 PM
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http://www.rcuniverse.com/product_gu...fm?kit_id=3680

It appears they no longer make the smaller version.
Old 03-04-2009 | 10:48 PM
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Thanks good looking plane.
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I just built the Top Flite P-47, and put a Saito 100 in it. You can see it on my profile page. Haven't had a chance to maiden it yet.
Old 03-04-2009 | 11:07 PM
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Thanks That is great looking plane. What type of covering did you use? I have TF gold calling my name to build her, but right now I am out of town working in OK, can't wait to start.


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