Hey Everyone I am still on my trainer and have a few flights done. The reason I am asking so early is if its a Kit it will give me time to build it. I am also considering ARFs. ARFs are maybe preferred.

I would like to go into fast plane genre where its not a stunt plane like the edge, extra, etc, But I dont really know like a racing plane that has good control and very stable but maybe has the potential for a little speed. Also with this I think I should be able to fight 10mph wind better, am I wrong for assuming this?

Links are helpful.

Fastfly,

For a second plane for my son I got him a Duraplane Aerobat. This plane is capable of high speed and still has a great degree of stability. It is not the prettiest plane out there but it is still tough enough to handle those rough landings. Speed is something you can have with most airplanes with the change of the prop. So all you have to do is choose one that you like and get used to flying it, then start adding more pitch to the prop until you fill the need, the need for speed.

Bob

I saw a Duraplane at my field the other day.........not very pretty but home depot has most the parts

I heard that it flys very heavy and with a dead stick super hard to get onto the ground.

Fastfly,

My second plane was a Tower Hobbies Kaos 40 kit. It definitely moves quickly with a 46FX. Once you get real good on your trainer and if, and only if, you have an instructor willing to help then the Kaos is a great second plane. Since you want an ARF here are some in the $100 - $160 price range:

Tower Kaos ARF - $119
GP Big Stik 40 - $109
CG Tiger 40 - $159

Those should all give you a good rush when your ready!
Beau

Thanks Beau!

Ill check them out

Try one of these:
http://www.vectorflight.com/

Super Sportster ARF (about $130 to $140). Fairly quick, fairly aerobatic, but still slows down well for landing, and it LOOKS good.
Dennis-

4*40
4*60
easy sport
the 3 i know to fly the best for a 2nd plane, 4*40 is the most popular, the easysport, Ive owned, flew great, it was my 2nd plane after a year of flying a trainor.

Kaos, big stik, Sportster, 4*, all good planes. If you can build, you should build it. It will last longer. I have found that ARFs tend to not be as strong as one I would build myself. Takes a little longer, but not much.

Not much? How many hours usually?

Dura planes fly great, with the right cg will land dead stick no problem.

For cheap fun of all types look in the SPAD thread here.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forumdispl...s=&forumid=235

Sportster, Kaos, or Goldberg Tiger2. All great second planes that will fly fast at throttle and then slow down nicely to land. I like a little bigger so the Tiger2 would be my choice. It has a remarkable speed range and is very earobatic capable.

Thanks Fastsky.....and umm nice name

Not sure if you are flying electric or glo.

If electric is an option, here are some thoughts for 10 MPH+ wind

Zaggi flying wings have the reputation for being good in the wind. The 480 is pretty quick.
http://plawner.net/video/zagi_brushl...ight_rolls.wmv

The Twin Jet is both fast and also good in the wind - another delta wing type.
http://plawner.net/video/twinjets_wi...rsed_motor.wmv
http://plawner.net/video/twinjet_wit...ing_system.wmv

My Aerobird does pretty good up to 12-15 MPH winds, but is not fast.


Alpha Jet is pretty quick. Not sure of wind characteristics
http://plawner.net/video/alpha_jet.wmv

Diablotin Mini - A little more interesting and no runway needed
http://plawner.net/video/diablotin_m...torphammar.wmv


Kavin Projeti wing
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/media/FK5...ojetiCombo.wmv

Just some fun planes that don't require the mess and fuss of fuel.

Ill think about electric but I am mainly going to stick with fuel I think.


chargers are to much for my blood right now.


The Tiger 2 looks like the best bet right now

Depends on your experience. I built a Big Sitk 60 from scratch in about 5 nights working 3 to 4 hours a night and one weekend. Depends on how fast you build. Kits can be pretty quick. I can put a wing together in an evening on most sport type planes, and the fuse and tail surfaces in another. Sanding and getting things prepped usually takes another, sometimes 2 if it is a really rounded fuse. Covering takes the longest, and then the radio install takes a full night usually.

Depends on how fast you build and how long you have to spend in the instructions.

easy sport

This is the plane I'm considering for my second...

The Goldberg Tiger 2...

Kit version ($100)... http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXDJC9&P=7

ARF version ($160)... http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXH755&P=7

Quote from Tower Hobbies... "The Tiger II promises to be a great second plane after a beginner learns to fly trainer airplanes."

everybody is going to say that about every plane

Invest $20 and build the SPAD Deboniar. If you want more speed and maybe some acrobatics, just make the wings with less or no dihedral.

If you want something not quite aerobatic but with speed, look at the great planes lancair. Its a very nice looking plane, and has "speed".

Ill take a look at both thanks David and ykol. I dont thinnk a spad is for me.

I thought the same thing when I first stumbled across them a month ago. I looked at them and thought there's no way these planes can fly as well as they say. So I invested $12 on materials and a combined time of about one day building one to see for myself how it would do and boy was I surprised. It flies great.

I appreciate a good looking and well built balsa airplane as much as the next guy; but I also like having something that I can just throw in the truck and go fly.

True David.....Ill take a look.

Yup, I have the most fun with knock around planes, takes away the fear/wallet factor.. .