Ryan
hey all the people out their, i just got some money for my birthday and i wanted to know which kit would be a good choice for a second plane. i alredy have a sig Kadet senior, and i am learning how to fly it, any help ypu could give me would be great.


Thanks,Runner5

What kind of flying do you wan to do. Super Sporsters are nice, 4*s are ok, Stiks are a blast, Sig Something extra is fun, uproar is fun. All are good. Depends on the type of flying you want to do. Anniversary cub is fun if you want slower. Lots and lots of choices.

If it's another trainer you want, I still recommend the Balsa USA Stik. After you're comfy with it, hot up the controls as far as you can - I've won funflies with it. The Goldberg Cub is fun to fly, and is a real floater - but it's not a trainer and will fall out of the sky if you really screw up. You can knife-edge with 'em, too...

The LT40 is an excellent plane, easy to build, flies well and will do whatever you ask of it.....

First of all, don't be in too much of a hurry to get into any other plane until you have your trainer mastered. And I don't just mean being able to solo around the field. I"m talking about being able to fly it out of nearly any emergency in your sleep. It's important to become one with your airplane, especially your first one. Trainers allow time for the new pilot to think, when you fly a more advanced design, you lose that margin of think time. You must be able to fly by instinct in order to succesfully advance up the ladder. Too often I see guys who learn to solo their trainer and then start buying airplanes that are just to advanced for their skills. The end result is always the same. a series of crashes with expensive airplanes and a modeler who remains clueless. If you want a good second plane check out some of the spads at spadtothebone.com, they have something for everyone. I"m currently flying a qhor and it's a blast.

Is an Astro-Hog a reasonable second plane, or should it come later? I'm planning to start with an LT-25 (unless my cash-flow increases, i can't really see paying $200 for a Kadet Senior ARF) and fly the wazoo out of it before I start thinking about a second plane (not to mention I suspect it will take me a year to build the Hog, given my other commitments (she's 2 years old and as cute as can be *grin*)).

The Astro-Hog is not a good second airplane...Not a great second kit either!

They get a little snappy when they're slow and just aren't as forgiving as most "2nd airplanes".

The LT-25 is not much of a step up from ANY trainer, but is a great airplane. I love SIG kits and the LT-25 is one of the best...There is no reason not to start building the Astro-Hog now, but don't get in a hurry to fly it! Once you get there, it is a GREAT sport flyer.

runner5, I would recommend the Sig Fourstar...

Let me build my LT-25 first, then I'll think about the hog

Hello Rick,
See this thread I just posted about the LT-25.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/showthread...263&forumid=22


..lownslo....

Runner5, My vote for a second plane is a Sig 4*40 (or 60, 120.)
I have a 4* 120 and a Midwest Starduster that is a twin to the 4*40. Both are very gentle to land and fly just great. The Midwest Starduster is a great plane but it costs more and is not as easy to build as the 4*. It WILL fly just as good as any 4* though......lownlso....

Two planes come to mind. The SIG something extra and the SIG 4 star 60. Both are excellent second planes

Ya, I saw that thread, makes me glad i'm going for an LT-25 . Only difference is I'm planning to save my pennies for something like a .30 4-stroke. (Since I'm going to start with just my airplane kit and pick up the engine/radio further down the road after the kit approaches completion, I should have plenty of time while I'm building to peruse e-bay and the classified ads here... that or talk to folks at the local club to see if anyone has a spare little 4-stroke they'd part with at a reasonable price)

Out of curiosity, does the LT-25 really need the power of a .40, or is it just convienent for going up fast?

-Rick

Rick asked: No..... it does not need a .40. The plane is light and it would be fine with a .25.
I was only using my old .40 LA because they are light in weight for a .40, and the LA is weak in power anyway. Many pilots have old LA's stored away after moving on to bigger engines. I just thought by posting about the LT-25 / .40 LA, that there would be some options out there that fellas might be interested in. The little 4 stroke sounds fine. I know a fella in our club that also had an LT-25 with a OS .40 4 stroke in it. He sold the plane without the engine. ...lownslo...

here is my opinion.
If you builded a senior straight and thrue, you will be able to build the hog. There is some challenges in the box but if you had the patience to build the senior airframe it will be ok.
the astro hog is a very nice design and a great flyer, but it doesn't have the gentle flight of a pure second airplane like the four star.
If you want something diferent than a four star, I strongly suggest a VENTURE 60.
the venture 60 is designed by BRUCE THARPE, the designer of the four star 40 and 120
when Bruce left SIG, he created "bruce tharpe engineering" and designed the venture 60 wich is a "improved four star"
that's a wonderfull airplane.
the response of SIG has been to redesign the four star in a .60 size, but the four star 60 doesn't have the design improvement you can find in a venture 60

to me, the venture 60 is the ticket