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.60 size trainer kit
I'm looking to get a .60 trainer kit. I already have a tower .61 engine. I want to build from a kit. I have built a kit before and very much enjoyed the building process. The only 1 I come across in stock anywhere is a Great Planes PT-60. Any other suggestions? I've read on here that some have used a Goldberg Tiger as their trainer.(Its in stock also) Is this a good option? I do plan on finding an instructor.
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The sig lt40 is a very large 40 size plane with a 70 inch wing span and a great first plane and kit.
I put a 46 two stroke on mine and had to add a few ounces on the nose to balance, I think it would take a 60 size engine ok though does not really need it.
I have done many silly things with this plane and it just refuses to fall out of the sky the wings so big it just floats, great trainer.
Maybe someone with more experience can chip in though as I am still quite new at this.
I put a 46 two stroke on mine and had to add a few ounces on the nose to balance, I think it would take a 60 size engine ok though does not really need it.
I have done many silly things with this plane and it just refuses to fall out of the sky the wings so big it just floats, great trainer.
Maybe someone with more experience can chip in though as I am still quite new at this.
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I built the PT-60 and it is a good kit, good flying plane. I recommend not building the wing with standard dihedral. If you only plan on flying nice and easy, build the sport wing, still a very stable easy flying wing. If you want a more aerobatic plane, then build the wing with only 1-1/2" or so of dihedral. If you would like a gentle flying but aerobatic plane and will have an instructor, go straight to a Sig 4-Star kit, often called a "low wing trainer". Really no more difficult to fly than a trainer and will take you further in your flying.
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Goldberg offers a .60-size trainer called the Protege that is basically a high wing version of the Tiger .60. They have offered in both kit and ARF form in the past, but it is currently out of production. It hasn't been out of production for so long, however, that you couldn't find a kit still new in the box for sale if you check here on the RCU Marketplace or at your favorite auction site.
I have a Protege .60 ARF that I fly with a Thunder Tiger GP-61, and it's a wonderful airplane.
I have a Protege .60 ARF that I fly with a Thunder Tiger GP-61, and it's a wonderful airplane.
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The Senior Telemaster is a nice trainer and accepts .40-.60 engines and would be a perfect match for the engine you have.
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/srtele_3889_prd1.htm
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/srtele_3889_prd1.htm
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I'll second Radyar on the Sig LT40. I use an OS46AX with a 12/4 or 12/6 prop and it still needs a little nose weight so a .60 should be fine. Sigs kits are top notch and every Kadet I ever saw flew like a dream. Our club uses them exclusively for trainers. After a couple years wringing out my own LT40 I wanted more so I set it up with 3" by full width ailerons programed as flaperons with up to 30 degree flaps. The guys are always impressed when I do a slow fly-by at walking speed and fly it backwards or land it vertcally in the wind. An Lt40 will provide a great learning experience and years of fun. With full flaps I like to show off by taking off from one of our 7' carpet covered setup tables at the field. It doesn't even need the whole table. Program the rates higher and it even becomes a mild aerobat!
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Thekrafty 60kit at http://www.bridiairplanes.com/hangar/krafty60.html, would be similar to the RCM Trainer 60, except the semi-symetrical airfoil. The Bridi Kraftkit 4 Seasons 40 is similar to the Krafty 60.
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Why do you NOT want the PT-60?
Why do you NOT want the PT-60?
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RE: .60 size trainer kit
carrellh, its not that I dont want to get a pt-60. Its the only 60 size trainer kit that I can find that anyone has in stock right now. I just wanted to get other opinions before I bought. Goldberg Tiger 60 is in stock also. I asked about that one after reading on here that it could be used as a trainer. I searched for Kadet Lt-40 kit & Senior Telemaster. No one seems to have those either. I have no problem with the pt-60 if you think it would be the better way to go.
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RE: .60 size trainer kit
Sig carries the LT40 and other trainer kits. You can buy direct from them. Here's a link to their site:
http://www.sigmfg.com/
Look under their aircraft kits for the trainer page.
http://www.sigmfg.com/
Look under their aircraft kits for the trainer page.
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A third yep for the LT-40, we had a student who had a 90 two stroke in his. stil flew just fine. The Kadet Senior is also a big fun to build stick built plane that will handle a 60 ok too.
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RE: .60 size trainer kit
Everyone learns differently, and instructors definitely have their preferences. Minnflyer is an instructor and apparently likes using the Tiger as a trainer. The instructors I have worked with all prefer teaching using high wing trainers.
I guess my suggestion would be to talk to the instructor first to see what he is comfortable with.
I've had two PT-60s. One was built with the 'sport' wing. Less dihedral than the 'trainer' wing but still quite a bit. The second was built with zero dihedral.
I guess my suggestion would be to talk to the instructor first to see what he is comfortable with.
I've had two PT-60s. One was built with the 'sport' wing. Less dihedral than the 'trainer' wing but still quite a bit. The second was built with zero dihedral.
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heres a .60 trainer kit http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXJ558&P=0
or you could buy the tower .60 arf http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCAS1&P=0
or you could buy the tower .60 arf http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCAS1&P=0
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HELP!!!!!!!! my son put my tiger .60 arf thru a fence and distroyed the wing , the fuse is unharmed, i have a wing set coming from great planes (and great people) but i am i need of the alum. wing joiner tubes, main and secondary ones. please let me know!!!!!! thanks, fujiman
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RE: .60 size trainer kit
I'll have to throw in my $0.02 on the LT40 as well.
Like others have said, it's pretty big for a 40, it's probably better powered as a 60 sized motor.
I've built both the LT40 from kit, and the Senior Telemaster from plans, and the LT40 is IMO the better kit. and the better build for the first time builder.
The only modification I would suggest is using individual aileron servos. You don't have to mess with the torque rod, but you do have to work with routing servo wires through the wing. Either method will work, both have their benefits, both have their weaknesses. Both have the simplification of construction, both have their challenges.
Oh.. one more thing.. You might not think it.. but both planes are good sized. It's deceptive until you try to fit that wing into your vehicle.
Like others have said, it's pretty big for a 40, it's probably better powered as a 60 sized motor.
I've built both the LT40 from kit, and the Senior Telemaster from plans, and the LT40 is IMO the better kit. and the better build for the first time builder.
The only modification I would suggest is using individual aileron servos. You don't have to mess with the torque rod, but you do have to work with routing servo wires through the wing. Either method will work, both have their benefits, both have their weaknesses. Both have the simplification of construction, both have their challenges.
Oh.. one more thing.. You might not think it.. but both planes are good sized. It's deceptive until you try to fit that wing into your vehicle.
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I will throw in my 2-cents worth and vote for the Bridi Aircruiser 60, looks similar to the Falcon kits.
http://www.bridiairplanes.com/hangar/aircruiser60.html
http://www.bridiairplanes.com/hangar/aircruiser60.html
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RE: .60 size trainer kit
The Tiger 60 Kit Plane with a 60 up front balanced out perfectly, with NO additional weight required. The Tiger turned out to be a great flier, with excellent slow speed characteristics.
Whichever kit you choose, keep WEIGHT in mind as you build! Light and strong "rules"!!!
If you build too heavy, especially in the tail area which will require adding dead weight up front to balance, then you can kiss all the dreamy advertised feature's of any kit good by!
Whichever kit you choose, keep WEIGHT in mind as you build! Light and strong "rules"!!!
If you build too heavy, especially in the tail area which will require adding dead weight up front to balance, then you can kiss all the dreamy advertised feature's of any kit good by!
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RE: .60 size trainer kit
So - Going by these comments, for my LT-40, should I be investing in an OS 46AX for $145AU or a 55AX for $159AU ??? I was thinking about a Saito but for my first plane I thought I'd stick to something a little cheaper so was planning on getting the 46AX???
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In my opinion you should invest in OS 55AX, because later when you will be finished with your training on trainer, you will be able to use this engine in any respectable patternship aircraft for further advance flying in your career. Because in an aerobatic model you will need an extra power for advance maneuvers which 55AX can provide but will be difficult for 46AX to pull those maneuvers.
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Regards,
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Goldberg offers a .60-size trainer called the Protege that is basically a high wing version of the Tiger .60. They have offered in both kit and ARF form in the past, but it is currently out of production. It hasn't been out of production for so long, however, that you couldn't find a kit still new in the box for sale if you check here on the RCU Marketplace or at your favorite auction site.
I have a Protege .60 ARF that I fly with a Thunder Tiger GP-61, and it's a wonderful airplane.
Goldberg offers a .60-size trainer called the Protege that is basically a high wing version of the Tiger .60. They have offered in both kit and ARF form in the past, but it is currently out of production. It hasn't been out of production for so long, however, that you couldn't find a kit still new in the box for sale if you check here on the RCU Marketplace or at your favorite auction site.
I have a Protege .60 ARF that I fly with a Thunder Tiger GP-61, and it's a wonderful airplane.
Regards, Sunny.