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smoked 3 gws 350 ds?

Old 02-10-2004, 07:23 PM
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i have a foamy 3dx. ive burned 2 motors up in it. i,m using a thunder power 1320ma li-po. fma super 30 auto cell detect esc. futaba fp-r127df rec. hitec hs-81mg servos. gws eps 350(dx) 6.60:1 motor. can someone tell me what i,m doooooing. thanks[]
Old 02-10-2004, 07:28 PM
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Default RE: smoked 3 gws 350 ds?

The GWS 350Cs cant hold up to 3S lipos. move on to brushless motors.
Old 02-10-2004, 09:08 PM
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Default RE: smoked 3 gws 350 ds?

* If possible I would change out to smaller servos (10g or less) an RX.

* Couple of us run 3s TP2100 on 3DX with 12x6 prop, get about 20 flights or more b4 motor burns out. 15-20min flying, hovers, lots of throttle management.

* Prop down to 11x4.7, it will lower the amp draw.
Old 02-11-2004, 10:17 AM
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Default RE: smoked 3 gws 350 ds?

thanks guy,s i,ll give your ideas a try.
Old 02-11-2004, 11:30 PM
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Default RE: smoked 3 gws 350 ds?

what size prop are you using?
Old 02-12-2004, 01:34 PM
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i,m using a ep 1260 prop
Old 02-14-2004, 11:31 AM
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Default RE: smoked 3 gws 350 ds?

ORIGINAL: martin2

i have a foamy 3dx. ive burned 2 motors up in it. i,m using a thunder power 1320ma li-po. fma super 30 auto cell detect esc. futaba fp-r127df rec. hitec hs-81mg servos. gws eps 350(dx) 6.60:1 motor. can someone tell me what i,m doooooing. thanks[]
How did everyone know from this post he was using 3S? Are you using 3S or 2S? If 3S, that's probably the reason for the "early" demise of the 350. 2S would provide longer motor life, but less zip. An EPS 400C will stand up longer on a 3S, but isn't much more powerful then the 350 when you factor in the extra weight.

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Old 02-14-2004, 11:20 PM
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Default RE: smoked 3 gws 350 ds?

How did everyone know from this post he was using 3S? Are you using 3S or 2S? If 3S, that's probably the reason for the "early" demise of the 350.
You asked and you answered yourself in the same post. About the only way he could be burning out motors that quick is if he were using 3S li-po's.

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Old 02-16-2004, 05:36 PM
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Default RE: smoked 3 gws 350 ds?

yo,

I have a 300 motor, an ICS 100 ESC, and a 8.4v 730 mah battery. Should I use a 1080 propeller or will it pull too many amps.? People say I should try a 9070, should I? If I want more thrust than should I use a 1080 but get a better ESC to handle the amps? Will the motor burn out soon with a 8.4v? I NEED HELP!!!!!! AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
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Default RE: smoked 3 gws 350 ds?

You won't be pulling too many amps. I flew the same setup with no problem for quite a while. If you pull your battery pack out and its to hot to hold, you are pulling to many amps. With this setup it will be quite warm. If you want everything to last longer, go with the 9070. Things will still heat up, just not as bad. Its more a matter of choice. The weakest link in the power system you have is your battery pack. You don't really need to worry about frying your motor, because the 730mah pack doesn't have enough power to do it. So I would say, just check the pack after flight. If its too hot, then go with the smaller prop.
Old 02-17-2004, 05:13 PM
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Default RE: smoked 3 gws 350 ds?

Thanks alot, you and mr. kirsch are my new best online friends
Old 02-17-2004, 07:17 PM
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Default RE: smoked 3 gws 350 ds?

to anyone out there, the gws motor in the e- starter, what is that? i got a 370 or a 350 and it is a lot faster, i use a 7.4v 1500mah batteyr . I want to have more punch, but without going brushless. I dont want to go brushless yet , and if i us e a 3cell , which prop would make the engine last longer? how many flights? HELP I AM DESPERATE!!
Old 02-18-2004, 09:23 PM
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Default RE: smoked 3 gws 350 ds?

G-UNIT!
Old 02-19-2004, 04:48 PM
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Default RE: smoked 3 gws 350 ds?

ORIGINAL: martin2

i have a foamy 3dx. ive burned 2 motors up in it. i,m using a thunder power 1320ma li-po. fma super 30 auto cell detect esc. futaba fp-r127df rec. hitec hs-81mg servos. gws eps 350(dx) 6.60:1 motor. can someone tell me what i,m doooooing. thanks[]
I really don't know how they do it.
I just burned up another 350, running 3S 1500 Lipo, 1147 prop and really gentle on the throttle. My 3DX weighs 13 ounces, but I am still learning to hover so I am not running much WOT.
I ran a motor in, in a glass of water last night to see it that helps (I am skeptical).
I really, really don't want to go brushless.
Old 02-19-2004, 05:06 PM
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Default RE: smoked 3 gws 350 ds?

who does?
Old 02-19-2004, 10:04 PM
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Default RE: smoked 3 gws 350 ds?

How about upgrading to an EPS 400C? It adds about 1 oz., but it is more durable than the 350 and will take 3S Lipos with no problem. I have run one on my Slow Stick for 25-30 flights - 5.28 GB, 12x8 HD prop.

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Old 02-22-2004, 01:08 AM
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Default RE: smoked 3 gws 350 ds?

Maybe. I have one on my slow stick that i could try. My Lipo might not like the current draw though.
Old 02-22-2004, 01:32 AM
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Default RE: smoked 3 gws 350 ds?

Your're probably right, I'm running 3S TP2100 packs.

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Old 02-23-2004, 07:59 PM
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Default RE: smoked 3 gws 350 ds?

I think the have the same current capacity as the Kokam 1500 at 8C?
Old 02-23-2004, 08:14 PM
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Default RE: smoked 3 gws 350 ds?

Actually the TP2100 are rated 6C, which is about 12 amps.(Depending on which Web site you read.) I had forgotten that the Kokams were 8C and therefore will take 12 amps also. I mistakenly thought the Kokams were also 6C and therefore only 9 amps.

The GWS EPS400 on a 5.28 gear box only pulls 8 amps off the 3S spinning a 12x8 HD prop. Shouldn't be a problem on Kokams either.

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Old 02-25-2004, 12:19 AM
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Default RE: smoked 3 gws 350 ds?

Great, I have one that I will try this weekend.
Thanks.
Old 02-25-2004, 08:12 PM
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Escucho ¡G-UNIT!
Old 02-26-2004, 02:08 PM
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Default RE: smoked 3 gws 350 ds?

has any body used the ACRO 280 BB for the gws 350 gearbox? i heard its an rebuildable motor and its a perfect fit for the gearbox!
its a 6v motor and I'll be using the 5.3.1 ratio w thunder power 3cell 1320 pack
i ordered one, i hope it holds up better than the stock gws motor
Old 02-27-2004, 09:13 PM
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Default RE: smoked 3 gws 350 ds?

I want to hear how that works out. Can you post a link to that motor?

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