Well, i had a question for those of you with some RC experience, ecspecially with CEN's. I am new to the RC world, and am considering getting the new GST 7.7 as a toy, and am wondering how they stack up quality, tunability, and how ell they take abuse? I am throwing around the idea of either the 7.7, a Traxxas Revo 3.3, or a Savage x/Savage x ss. I like that the CEN is a big beast, but still runs in the 40 mph range. Iknow that the 7.7 is brand new, but i figured any with CEN experience would help, that and if any already have one. I also like the idea of getting the free mini-madness electric car with the new purchase of a new 7.7 GTS

I'm just looking for a little advice from those with more time under the belt. That, and how is CEN's customer service and warranty? I have heard that Traxxas is good to deal with, and the lifetime engine exchange program sounds nice too, but have heard that the 3.3's have issues, and don't last long past 5 gallons.

Thanks ahead of time.

first the mini madness aint all that great an i am some what un happy with my mt2

Get the savage!

Well you have problems with anything you buy you just got to work out the kinks i dont own a 7.7 but i seen some run they looked real solid and run good and Cen product support is one of the best in the industrie.I hope this helps you.

Dennis

Cen racing,TQ fuel

My own experience the Cen MT 2 is a beast. It was and still is one of my most favorite trucks to beat the crap out of. I have a Genesis and have fired it yet so i can't speak to its quality. The customer service i got was very good.

Now with Traxxas, the revo is a super tough little beastie, and they haul A**. Customer service simply awesome. My luck with the TRX 2.5 motors horrible. The first one upon starting it up on the first start with needles set at factory settings flew over 300 degrees and torched the piston and sleeve, no amount of richening it up helped. The 2nd motor followed break in to the T as per traxxas instructions. It ran great, and cooked itself, it never temped over 265 degrees.

I figure it must be me, but then why can I tune all the other motors on my other 20 odd nitro vehicles without blowing them up.

The gst is a nice truck though. Id weigh out pluses and negitives on both. One thing with the revo is you'll find parts almost anywhere, and craploads of aftermarket goodies.

Goodluck

Well, i understand the mini-madness ain't the fastest beast out there, but as long as it is enjoyable, it's friggen free, which is the best part. As for aftermarket, i'm not looking to spend a fortune "hopping" up the GST, i want one that i can play with, and not have to worry about it breaking easily, i do not plan on making 20 foot jumps, or back flips, but normal wear and tear is a factor, and i hope that what i buy can handle a few bumps.

Thanks, and keep them coming!

I think you will have fun with the GST 7.7. It looks be a really cool truck.

Zya, I own both the Genesis LE and Nemesis 7.7 Niether of these trucks are considered entry level, so unless you have some mechanical ability. you will have some disappointing days, but and this is a huge but,,once you have it broke in and tuned you will be amazed as well as scared of the awsome power of the NX76 engine. I do not own any of the other trucks,,savage, revo ect...but I have run with those trucks,,They always seem so much smaller as well as not quite so explosively powerful. As wth any rc monster truck or any other rc vehicle there will maintenence and parts repair but I have not had to replace to many parts except when I hit a block wall at full speed.

Good Luck With Whatever you choose!!

I own a Geneiss and soon GST. It is a freaking monster. Revo and savage is no match for it. Not size, not power, not jumping, pulling..etc My genesis wins in every category. But yeah, its not a begineer level truck. If this is your first truck, get the Magnum NX for $300. Its as fast as revo and very simple and reliable design.

Agreed as above.
I have had a tmaxx and a savage, and I sold them when I got a genesis, because there was no comparison in durability, power, speed, or awesomeness!

Stock fo stock, revo will be the better racer on a track. But for anything else, GST all the way! Untill you get to drive one, you cant even imagine how much power these things have. It's crazy!

I think you should pick up some of the latest magazines and read the articles about the many different trucks avalible. You will find ours gets great ratings in every catagory.

Also you get direct technical and customer support via, email, phone and message boards.

When you call CEN Racing to ask a question, a LIVE human being will answer. Not a computer.

Our truck is the biggest baddest truck in the 1/8th catagory. Be ware it is considered an advanced level hobbyist item, but please don't let that discourage you if this is the truck you want! Repairs and maintence on this truck are no different from any other manufactures truck. The exception to this is that our engine is a little harder to tune (this is why it is considered advanced level) when you are first learning.

Like dogman_1 stated above there will be some frustration at times trying to get it to tune and run correctly. But trust me when I say that would be the case with any nitro powered vehicle if this is your first time!

We can only hope that you will pick our truck to be your first! If you do, welcome to the CEN Racing family. If you don't welcome to the Hobby! At any rate, have fun and smile!

CEN Racing

any truck you get you will see things that will need atention, all trucks will need to be disassembled and checked for loctite on all the screws, make sure that the servo throws are true etc. but the only trucks compare to the 7.7 are the lst and the mgt. ae has terrible cust support (trust me) and i just got the lst2 so for durability we shall see. i have these trucks, savage x2, lst2, mgt, genesis le, nemesis, excellerator , rusler by traxxas. the only one i dont have is the revo, i just dont like it personally , too small. good luck on your desision i know it will be a tough one. but which ever one you choose there is always next year to buy another.

I have had my genesis LE since last january, it was my first non radio shack rc. I have definently learned a lot from it, but it ALWAYS has ran great for me, half the time it starts on the first pull if I prime it right. It freakin hauls for its size, I don't know why some people bash on the engine, its just as fast (or faster ) then my friends .28 savage and the easiest to tune out of all my friends nitro trucks (savage and 2 t-maxx). the thing can also take a beating, the only times I have really broke something was running into a concrete pillar at full speed after doing a massive jump, that broke an a-arm and a knuckle, and once we got the bright idea to stuck clays ( clay pigeons, that you throw and shoot) into the rear bumpers of the genny and the savage and then go at it trying to break the clays, I was winning becuase my tires stick out pass the bumper, but colliding with the savage at full speed broke the plastic steering thing, so a new aluminuim one was needed. But other then that it has taken tons of beating, like mudding in about 5 inches of drainage ditch water, and playing in huge gravel pits, and it likes it. The only thing really lacking with the genesis in my opinion was the steering radius, i couldn't turn like the smaller trucks, so I put 4-wheel steering on it, now it flat spins on pavement if I want it to. So far it has been great, powerful and strong, I would definently recomend it.

I have a CEN MT2 with every factory mod done to it....even some custom machined parts and an OS.18CVRX engine with OS tuned pipe...also Hitec digital high torque steering servo...the list goes on...

My buddy has a T-Maxx that seems to last forever....my CEN needs CONSTANT repair...not from crashing but just the rate at which parts wear out....I spend more time fixing and tuning than I do bashing...BUT...Compaired to the T-Maxx...my MT2 smacks its bum in accel, braking and turning. Unless some pro-racer shows up at the track with some custom built carbon fiber deal...I'm usually the fastest.

I recommended the MT2 to a buddy of mine with little to no mechanical ability because he wanted to go fast....he gets quite frustrated at times and I end up doing most of the work...but when its running well...it runs VERY well. ME....I'm happy to sit and tweak for hours on end because I'm into that stuff!

Keep in mind though that I bash HARD...I dont crash alot but I pound the jumps, lock the brakes, bust corners as hard as possible and run my engine on the edge of exploding.

I think for my next RC I will be getting a Nemesis...

My whole family uses the CEN Racing products. I have 2 1/8th scale racing buggies for my son and I. I have the Magnum for my daughter and a mini madness for my wife. My son and I also have a Nemesis and a Genesis truck that we have modded over to make full blown racer's (we bash them hard too!)

The GST 7.7 will be next and the truggy arena truck when it comes out as well! We have been consistantly winning races at our local track and always have the best bashing trucks at our favorite bash spots

For a beginner truck it will be tricky at first to run the Genesis but I think you will love having the attention it barters to the track!

What about GST 7.7 3sp+reverse Transmission durability?
Does it strong enough?

I appreciate all the help folks, as for the mechanical ability, i'm not so worried, as i work on my own vehicles, and am a maintenance techician by trade. I just do not know the specific workings of a RC car, but i'm sure with a little disassembly and reassembly, i could figure it out, and any specific quirks would require me coming on here for help, which by the response here, shouldn't be a problem getting help. I'm sure the tuning will be a PITA at first, and most of my tuning is usually done with a laptop with my real cars. I look forward to joing the RC world and getting to know how to enjoy the truck.

Thanks,
Jason

Ika, Check the post thread you started "Genesis Transmission" I answered you there.. I hope it helps!!

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Opps I'm ranting again, sorry

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OOps Sorry mods I will take it to PM...

If you can take apart an airplane, you can do an RC car. This truck is actually very simple in design. There are not very many moving parts inside the transmissions or the front a rear diff. You get a dialed instruction book with exploded views on how to take it all apart and even explanations on where certain screws and gears go.