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Old 05-26-2011 | 02:40 PM
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Hi everyone
I got this kit built fuselage with another plane and would like to know the name of it. the dimensions are rudder hinge line to nose ring is 1245mm (49"), wing cord is 362mm (14-1/4") and tailplane span is 635mm (25"). also it is setup for tricycle undercarriage .
any help would be great.

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Old 05-26-2011 | 04:47 PM
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Aurora??
Old 05-26-2011 | 06:04 PM
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More like MK Skymaster. Aurora for inverted RE with pipe.
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Old 05-26-2011 | 07:27 PM
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Yea, that's what I was thinking (stab is close) but the nose is off (engine was inverted and had glass cowl - at least the MK Skymaster). Also wing saddle is off. The 60 size had a partial wing saddle with a flat spot in the wing LE where the wing met the fuse. LE of wing extended on either side of the fuse side.

Also, the fin is not right. The fin tip was much thinner. This fin tip is more akin to the Mach 1 - not that the rest of the plane has anything to do with an M1.

What about a Cosmos with a wood canopy? Stab would be off though. The fuse top canopy area looks very much like a Skymaster (which also had a glass deck to cover the pipe).

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Old 05-27-2011 | 08:48 PM
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thanks everyone for the info, the fuse must be made up of different kits to get the shape
Old 05-28-2011 | 05:25 AM
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Hi,

Picture of MK Skymaster. I think it is a Skymaster You have, the stab is in the right place on your model and has same shape as kit content shown inpicture below. Fin is also close to shape compared to kit content I think.

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Old 05-29-2011 | 06:36 PM
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hi
i would agree that it is a skymaster going by that picture, all the photo's i have seen of the skymaster must be a later version. also would anyone know where to get the build instructions for it .

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Old 05-29-2011 | 08:29 PM
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If you have the wing then you really don't need any 'build instructions', just copy any of the well known models of the time, it was all pretty generic. If you don't have the wing, then you will need a plan from the kit, and be prepared to do a bit of rib extrapolation, but 99% of what you need will be done/drawn for you. If you still can't complete the model, then perhaps you should consider passing it along to someone who can. It is a nice airplane, and flies just like a classic should, and deserves a good home.
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Hi,

Picture of MK Skymaster. I think it is a Skymaster You have, the stab is in the right place on your model and has same shape as kit content shown in picture below. Fin is also close to shape compared to kit content I think.

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Bo,

it seems like you have nailed it. I had never seen the earlier rendition of the Skymaster. The later kits underwent quite a significant design change. I believe this was the design that Kato himself flew competitively in Japan during the early years. I wonder in fact how the Blue Angel scheme came about - whether it was Yoshioka who copied Kato or the other way around. Perhaps Kato liked Yoshioka's scheme and decided to apply it to the early Skymaster as shown in the picture.

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If you have the wing then you really don't need any 'build instructions', just copy any of the well known models of the time, it was all pretty generic. If you don't have the wing, then you will need a plan from the kit, and be prepared to do a bit of rib extrapolation, but 99% of what you need will be done/drawn for you. If you still can't complete the model, then perhaps you should consider passing it along to someone who can. It is a nice airplane, and flies just like a classic should, and deserves a good home.
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Hi Evan
I have a wing from a dirty birdy that i have to make fit which is not to hard just have to fill in the wing saddle abit as airfoil is different, and was just going to see if it needed any incidence in the wing .

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Well, the box lid says 1580 mm span and it looks like a swept L/E straight T/E job so the DB wing could be made to fit ok. It looks as though the Skymaster section might be a bit thinner, but I doubt it will make any difference. So yes, the idea is good, two dowels at the front and a bolt at the back of the wing, looks like torque rods for the ailerons, but you could put a couple of mini servos in the wing, either fixed U/C or retracts, depending on wot you got, and just fill in the outlines for rudder and elevator. Keep it simple, use hard 1/4 squ balsa for your rudder/ele pushrods and you will have zero trim/temp changes. So far as wing/stab/thrustline, well you can go 'zero/zero' or, like Yoshioka and Matt (Blue Angel and Atlas) 3/4 degree positive in the wing. Either will do and it will be difficult to tell the difference.
Good luck, and lets have a pretty colour scheme on the thing, best you supply a finished photo or two.
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Old 09-28-2011 | 07:57 PM
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Hi everyone
I have finally got round to getting some photo's of the plane. it fly's great with a OS 61sf with tuned muffler , robart air up spring down retracts ,weight is 3.95Kg
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Old 09-29-2011 | 12:15 PM
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Matt, Great job!! Congrates on your new Skymaster, or should I say Skybirdy!!!!!! Pete
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Hey Matt,

Do you give finishing lessons? Your plane looks AWESOME........

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