dhal22

a view of the wing and fuse together. i left enough room for glass and paint on the leading and trailing edge. i did this by placing a few layers of masking tape between the belly pan and the fuse contact points while the belly pan was built on the wing. mounting the stabs are next.

dhal22

sorry, wrong photo. this should be the one.

dhal22

the wing and the ailerons without the retracts weigh 23 oz. i assume i'm on track weight wise.

doxilia

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Looking good David!

I would imagine that ideally you'd want an airframe AUW of 3.5 lbs/56 oz. With the wing at 23 oz. that leaves you with 33 oz for fuse and empennage...

With those weights you should end up nicely with an 8 lb BA60!

David.

dhal22

somewhere i think i noted what my fuse weighed. i need to look for that. maybe it's time to start totaling all of the components and try to see where i'm going to end up.

dhal22

i am ready to glue the stabs to the fuse but i'm concerned about incidence. is it time to buy an incidence meter? i'm sure the incidence is preengineered if i had an original kit but my reproduction may not be as accurate. any thoughts guys? thanks.

8178

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I set mine up like the plans with “0� on the wing and stab. It flew right of the building board with zero trim change on anything for the first flight.

Somewhat amazing!

dhal22

i suppose i should buy or make an incidence meter to check what i've got so far?

sound-barrier

Looks like this is also going to be another beautiful Blue Angel.
I respect your built the more, after i looked over the items MK already preformed for the fuse of my Beetle.
Knowing that you have to do all of that yourselves makes me almost feel guilty when i just glue some preformed parts together for my Beetle.[sm=teeth_smile.gif]

Furthermore to your issue concerning the incidence, i also had the same issue for the beetle.
On the drawing the wing is marked with 0 degrees, but the drawing says nothing concerning the stab.
The stab incidence is adjustable on the Beetle but a starting point would be nice.
Most probably i will also do the same as you do on the Blue Angel, so also 0 degrees on the stab for an initial setting.

Succes with this great build!!

Gert

8178

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In one of my builds I showed how to check it by just putting the aircraft on a flat surface. Unfortunately I’m not sure which build it was it. Works great for me.

dhal22

i did do a flat surface approach. photo to follow later. but the plane is now fully assembled. i'm about ready to move into the finishing stage.

sugarfox

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dhall, please describe what you are doing with the measuring procedure. I think I can figure out whats going on but just want to be sure. Just about ready for that procedure on my banshee, have an incedence meter but would like to learn another way. Thanks Sugarfox

dhal22

i now have a couple of photos of the fully assembled plane. still a long ways to go though.

hrrcflyer

David,

Sweet looking BA... Keep up the good work..[sm=thumbs_up.gif]

Taurus Flyer

Still waiting
Cees

dhal22

i don't think you need any advice cees. you certainly know more than i do. besides my method would probably be too rudimentary for you.

Taurus Flyer

David,

I only want to show you, you better can spend time with answerring questions from other memebers in your own thread. Maybe Sugarfox or other people are waiting!

See for this your post in "air up / spring down retracts":


http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_83...tm.htm#8390933

After reading this message I send my post.
I did give an explanation about my method of measuring the incidences long before in my own thread after reading the question.

Cees

dhal22

i finally found some heavy duty cardboard tube for which to craft some wing bolt holes. the filling and sanding has gone on enough. time to get started on the glassing. the wing is 1st. about 22 oz's before a coat of sanding sealer goes on. i'll try to keep track of the weight as i go. i use Minwax sanding sealer.

dhal22

sorry, i have no idea why the photos were so large. i just deleted them. any ideas? same camera, same everything.

dhal22

i will try again.

dhal22

i have no idea why that happened. the shine is the wet sanding sealer.

doxilia

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David,

could you provide a breakdown of your finishing technique along with some product shots if necessary?

I'm curious about the compatibility and layering capacity of the different products.

Much appreciated, David.

dhal22

David,

sure. i use any version of your basic balsa filler for most of my dents and dings fill in. i also use Evercoat automotive body filler. there are many versions of the evercoat product. i buy the lightest version they have (at a sherwin williams automotive paint store). in fact the manager there used to fly gliders and knew exactly what version i needed. the evercoat dries very fast. i use it for larger fill in and shaping. evercoat is used extensively by scale builders.

before i glass, and after i've sanded all the dents that i can stand, i wipe with a tack cloth and use a sanding sealer. at least i am starting to harden the soft balsa. after the sanding sealer dries i paint with a watered down version of the hobbylite. this fills in the pores and capillaries of the balsa. sand again, now i go to the up to 400 grit. using a compressor and a tack cloth i clean the wing or fuse and i'm ready for fiberglass cloth. on the BA i am using a 1/2 oz cloth.

i cut the glass to a rough shape and starting in the middle of the cloth i paint it with minwax polycrylic. this is water based so it dries very fast and there is virtually no weight gain. after a couple of coats of polycrylic i cut the excess cloth, sand the drips and high spots. then i pour some polycrylic in a sealable container and mix in a heavy load of talcum powder. this mix will fill in the weave of the cloth very fast and leaves everything extremely smooth (after sanding of course). the last 2-3 coats of polycrylic are applied straight. more sanding and i am ready for primer.

here is a photo of some of the products and the wing with it's 1st application of glass.

actually it looks like my computer is super sizing the photos again. before the time out feature happens i will post this and then upload the photos in a minute.

dhal22

i'm going to try the resized photos.

dhal22

at least they aren't the size of your computer screen.