Where to learn about kinds of pattern flying?
02-03-2008 | 01:16 PM
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Where to learn about kinds of pattern flying?
Can somebody direct me to information about what the different varieties of pattern flying is?
Also, are there any that involve slow small maneuvers, maybe 3D-ish but not just hovering etc, but small loops, rolls, done more slowly?
If so what is a good plane for that?
Thanks,
Jim
Also, are there any that involve slow small maneuvers, maybe 3D-ish but not just hovering etc, but small loops, rolls, done more slowly?
If so what is a good plane for that?
Thanks,
Jim
02-03-2008 | 02:35 PM
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RE: Where to learn about kinds of pattern flying?
This is a sticky on what current turnaround pattern is all about, it is in the main pattern forum:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3766720/tm.htm
Also, search the classic forum on "SPA" and "BPA" for info on the older style of non-turnaround pattern.
The only type of precision aerobatics that comes close to fitting your description of smaller and slower is indoor flying, F3D. The planes are all electric powered foamies and do fly extremely slow, due to the restricted space available. Current turnaround pattern is flown quite slow as well, but nothing close to the way you are describing it, and the maneuvers are flown quite large and as far out as possible. Part of the reason for wanting speed is that it makes everything look smoother, and it reduces corrections required for cross winds.
Mark
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3766720/tm.htm
Also, search the classic forum on "SPA" and "BPA" for info on the older style of non-turnaround pattern.
The only type of precision aerobatics that comes close to fitting your description of smaller and slower is indoor flying, F3D. The planes are all electric powered foamies and do fly extremely slow, due to the restricted space available. Current turnaround pattern is flown quite slow as well, but nothing close to the way you are describing it, and the maneuvers are flown quite large and as far out as possible. Part of the reason for wanting speed is that it makes everything look smoother, and it reduces corrections required for cross winds.
Mark
02-03-2008 | 02:35 PM
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Wow, big order................
Modern pattern, go to www.nsrca.com - National Society of Radio Controlled Aerobatics. This is the current world class pattern, turn around style. Also called 2-meter pattern for the size requitrements. A maneuver in front of you, then a maneuver to turn around, another manuver in front of you, etc.
"Classic Pattern" go to www.seniorpattern.com - This is the old pattern, where planes went a bazillion miles per hour, and the maneuvers looked like a Blue Angels performance. To keep it sinmple, no retracts or tuned pipes are allowed, planes must be pre-1976 designs.
"Ballistic Pattern" - like above, but they allow planes from 1976+ along with pipes and retracts. www.ballisticpattern.com
Then there's the 3-D crowd, the IMAC (minatures of full-scale arresti pattern) and the VRCS (Vintage RC Society)
Each has its own style, its own type of plane to compete with, etc.
Modern pattern, go to www.nsrca.com - National Society of Radio Controlled Aerobatics. This is the current world class pattern, turn around style. Also called 2-meter pattern for the size requitrements. A maneuver in front of you, then a maneuver to turn around, another manuver in front of you, etc.
"Classic Pattern" go to www.seniorpattern.com - This is the old pattern, where planes went a bazillion miles per hour, and the maneuvers looked like a Blue Angels performance. To keep it sinmple, no retracts or tuned pipes are allowed, planes must be pre-1976 designs.
"Ballistic Pattern" - like above, but they allow planes from 1976+ along with pipes and retracts. www.ballisticpattern.com
Then there's the 3-D crowd, the IMAC (minatures of full-scale arresti pattern) and the VRCS (Vintage RC Society)
Each has its own style, its own type of plane to compete with, etc.
02-03-2008 | 03:11 PM
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RE: Where to learn about kinds of pattern flying?
ORIGINAL: WEDJ
Wow, big order................
Modern pattern, go to www.nsrca.com - National Society of Radio Controlled Aerobatics. This is the current world class pattern, turn around style. Also called 2-meter pattern for the size requitrements. A maneuver in front of you, then a maneuver to turn around, another manuver in front of you, etc.
"Classic Pattern" go to www.seniorpattern.com - This is the old pattern, where planes went a bazillion miles per hour, and the maneuvers looked like a Blue Angels performance. To keep it sinmple, no retracts or tuned pipes are allowed, planes must be pre-1976 designs.
"Ballistic Pattern" - like above, but they allow planes from 1976+ along with pipes and retracts. www.ballisticpattern.com
Then there's the 3-D crowd, the IMAC (minatures of full-scale arresti pattern) and the VRCS (Vintage RC Society)
Each has its own style, its own type of plane to compete with, etc.
Wow, big order................
Modern pattern, go to www.nsrca.com - National Society of Radio Controlled Aerobatics. This is the current world class pattern, turn around style. Also called 2-meter pattern for the size requitrements. A maneuver in front of you, then a maneuver to turn around, another manuver in front of you, etc.
"Classic Pattern" go to www.seniorpattern.com - This is the old pattern, where planes went a bazillion miles per hour, and the maneuvers looked like a Blue Angels performance. To keep it sinmple, no retracts or tuned pipes are allowed, planes must be pre-1976 designs.
"Ballistic Pattern" - like above, but they allow planes from 1976+ along with pipes and retracts. www.ballisticpattern.com
Then there's the 3-D crowd, the IMAC (minatures of full-scale arresti pattern) and the VRCS (Vintage RC Society)
Each has its own style, its own type of plane to compete with, etc.
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I know what he is referring to. I used to fly that way with my Florio Stunt Wagon. It began when I noticed that I could keep the model in close, similar to flying a control line stunt model. I then began performing the control line stunt maneuvers, but enhanced them with rolling movements. It is neat to fly a horizontal square figure eight with half rolls in every segment. All right down on the deck and non stop.
Unfortunately, I know of no such competition class that flies in this manner. Perhaps it is time that it is invented and popularized?
Ed Cregger
02-03-2008 | 03:17 PM
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RE: Where to learn about kinds of pattern flying?
ORIGINAL: WEDJ
Wow, big order................
Modern pattern, go to www.nsrca.com - National Society of Radio Controlled Aerobatics. This is the current world class pattern, turn around style. Also called 2-meter pattern for the size requitrements. A maneuver in front of you, then a maneuver to turn around, another manuver in front of you, etc.
"Classic Pattern" go to www.seniorpattern.com - This is the old pattern, where planes went a bazillion miles per hour, and the maneuvers looked like a Blue Angels performance. To keep it sinmple, no retracts or tuned pipes are allowed, planes must be pre-1976 designs.
"Ballistic Pattern" - like above, but they allow planes from 1976+ along with pipes and retracts. www.ballisticpattern.com
Then there's the 3-D crowd, the IMAC (minatures of full-scale arresti pattern) and the VRCS (Vintage RC Society)
Each has its own style, its own type of plane to compete with, etc.
Wow, big order................
Modern pattern, go to www.nsrca.com - National Society of Radio Controlled Aerobatics. This is the current world class pattern, turn around style. Also called 2-meter pattern for the size requitrements. A maneuver in front of you, then a maneuver to turn around, another manuver in front of you, etc.
"Classic Pattern" go to www.seniorpattern.com - This is the old pattern, where planes went a bazillion miles per hour, and the maneuvers looked like a Blue Angels performance. To keep it sinmple, no retracts or tuned pipes are allowed, planes must be pre-1976 designs.
"Ballistic Pattern" - like above, but they allow planes from 1976+ along with pipes and retracts. www.ballisticpattern.com
Then there's the 3-D crowd, the IMAC (minatures of full-scale arresti pattern) and the VRCS (Vintage RC Society)
Each has its own style, its own type of plane to compete with, etc.
Minor correction. Current pattern information is at www.nsrca.org
02-04-2008 | 10:19 AM
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02-04-2008 | 08:49 PM
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RE: Where to learn about kinds of pattern flying?
Wow, thanks for all the great messages! Everything I needed and more. I'm off to go check these links out.
I happened to come across a newsletter from something like the Vintage Pattern Club, sounded like a local thing. Had a picture of a Kaos. Man that thing had a long fuse. Got me curious about the older pattern stuff. I'm pretty new to RC but pattern is quickly becoming my focus (well, slow flying too, which is why I asked about a pattern plane that also does small slow maneuvers).
BTW, hope mentioning foamies is OK here.....though I want to do pattern flying with a "real" plane like an Aspera or Andrew Jesky. Anyway, I came across the Hyperion Sniper today. Flat foamie (those seem weird to me). They look very patternish with very long fuse. There are a 40" and 60" wingspan models.
Thanks again,
Jim
I happened to come across a newsletter from something like the Vintage Pattern Club, sounded like a local thing. Had a picture of a Kaos. Man that thing had a long fuse. Got me curious about the older pattern stuff. I'm pretty new to RC but pattern is quickly becoming my focus (well, slow flying too, which is why I asked about a pattern plane that also does small slow maneuvers).
BTW, hope mentioning foamies is OK here.....though I want to do pattern flying with a "real" plane like an Aspera or Andrew Jesky. Anyway, I came across the Hyperion Sniper today. Flat foamie (those seem weird to me). They look very patternish with very long fuse. There are a 40" and 60" wingspan models.
Thanks again,
Jim
