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Rendegade,

Tunnelvision is a problem for a lot of engineers.

Cees

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Gents,

The same color correction used on this picture because they come from the same source I hope.
Picture 1 original
Picture 2 corrected


Cees

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Allthegoodnamesaretaken/Jeff,

It was not my intension to make a perfect picture of the photo Rendegade did show.

Post 70 and 71 were the most important posts for me.

To make a fast job I did use the similar factors I did learn of the picture in post 71 for the picture of post 77, for that reason I always mark my pictures, name and date. I archive all the corrections I make and only accept basic pictures.

My picture might be too light, I think your picture is too dark for a sunny day, so the solution maybe is a picture in the middle. For both of our pictures most important is “PURPLE IS STILL PURPLE” and we did not try to make it blue!
Look also to the left front tire of that car in your and mine pucture!

When it looks like a duck it isn't always a duck!
End of input in this thread.

Success Cees

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Hi,

The picture that I scanned from Simprop 1984 catalog is for sure not faded - that catalog has been in storage and closed for over 25 years. It was opened just to make the scan. In the Simprop catalog the picture clearly shows mid-dark blue wing (and stab) leading edge (and presumably same color on underside wing and stab) with light blue stripe.

/Bo

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Dalotel 165...colors or colours!

Rusty's Dalotel "replica" will use metallic purple, pink, yellow, black and white per Bem's photo. The Great Planes original (post the purchase from Bridi) demo model that I am restoring and was created to copy Hanno's winning 1982 smaller model is covered in clear Monokote and has K&B Superpoxy white, black yellow and pink. The K&B pink out of the can was a color not found in nature, kinda funky and did not match Monokote.

I have no "photo enhancing wizardry skills/techniques" but am marveling at the various submissions.

Rusty Dose
Team Futaba
Preparing for the 2011 "Classic TOC" class!

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I have to join in here..
I've always loved the way a Dalotel looks in the air. It's neat to see some shots of others.
Here's a shot of my Dalotel. It has a 100" wing span. Powered by a Zenoah 445. (GT-80)
My dad designed and kitted this plane for years. He built this one, it was his favorite plane.
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Joe

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I hope so! Calm down Cees, we need your whole impertinent rubbish like a hole in the head. Nobody insinuated that the catalog picture and the bottom side picture show the same model. After all, the two pictures belonging together were shown in post #53. Your corrections clearly show a red color cast so still not the true paint color. I just wanted to show that all corrections towards overall true colors make the purple more blue. Actually I thought that was clear from my comments. Just as a courtesy, here are the two pictures (nearly) without red color cast and the color of the desert dust about the same. The wing color is RGB is now 87/84/118, more red and green than in my first attempt (63/63/116). You may call that color purple, for me it's still a reddish blue. But your picture has RGB 136/74/114, just too much red.

You can't reconstruct the correct colors from photos, anyway, because they change with lighting and viewing angle. Instead I would look for commercially available colors (or colours ;) ), like Rusty does, or ask a designer how he chooses a set of matching colors. After all, the Dalo model has at least three colors.

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Just for the record, Hanno used examples of his Dalotel at three TOCs - 1978, 1980 & 1982. Referring to the rudder numbers, models used at these events were 01, 03 & 07 respectively. I assume he had back ups at each event whose rudder numbers I do not know.

All models were Monokote covered which may help with the colors used. 01 & 03 used the plain yellow scheme and 07 the sunburst pattern.

Ray

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David,

It will be clear that the purple is no artifact (see post 65, http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=9720722 )
if you are interested in values to reconstruct the color if you want to paint, let me know.

In that case I will spend some more time on it.

Cees

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Hanno's still around. Why doesn't somebody just ask him?!?!?

Andy

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Andy,

it could take a week to get through the questions I'd have for Hanno if I had the opportunity to speak to him... Still, I'd be happy with 5 minutes.

One of the interesting things about that under shot with the pipes is that the pipes were likely anodized. They look remarkably similar to the anodization that is done by Just Engines in the UK nowadays but I don't know what their history is - whether they were around in the ealry 80's and whether Hanno would have used pipes from such a company. It could be that Webra was supplying the pipes who in turn was being supplied by JE (or whoever supplies them).

If that's the case, a color match (if it were that critical - not my case) would be easy to establish based on the pipes available today.

Then again, the following two shots, don't help the cause much - wildly different colors based on lighting conditions...

David.

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David.

That's the 1982 model so the pipes were probably supplied by Super Tigre or OPS. ( twin geared ST 60s used in model)

Ray

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Hey Rusty I just happen to have an original slim zlin built in 85. Its all monokote and paint. Set up for the Rossi with the pipe inside the fuse. This plane has a grand total of 1 flight on it. Removable stab and fin and is in perfect condition. I also have the two Dalotels that I flew from 84-88 but I am going to hold on to those. Email me if you are interested in the zlin.

Chip

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Dalotel...an original from Mr. Hyde!

Chip...I will send you an e-mail. Maybe you can bring it to the NATS?

If you have not seen Chip's new models the Onas and the Visa...go check them out in the "Pattern-Electric" section of RCU. Leading edge collaborations with CA Models of Argentina.

Rusty Dose
Team Futaba

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Dalotel...another photo...maybe already posted?

Rusty Dose
Team Futaba

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Hi,

Hanno Prettner with his Dalotel, photo from Simprop catalog 1979. Hanno used Simprop radio back then.

/Bo

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Dear all
about post 74 and 75 these are 2 different planes, have a look to the cockpit of the planes than it will be clear.
if someone is interested i can findout from which year the planesare???

greetings
Franz

P.S. if someone find somemistakes, it will be yours!</p>

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Dear franzk, read post 75

And now read post 74 again.

Cees

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Dear Dalotel Friends
Now i have some answers.
the First picture (the yellow one) was flown in 1978
and the dalo on the 2nd picture was flown in 1982

regards
Franz

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Anyone know of the plans/dimensions of the Hanno Dalotel? I notice that he has the tail a little lower than the full size.

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Hello all, I just posted a picture of my uncle's plane. Enjoyed the thread...learned some things. http://www.rcuniverse.com/gallery/ga...berID%3D224806

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=140794428705

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I had one of those a few years ago. Powered it with a YS .91AC. Perfect combo. If anyone here picks it up and wants a glass cowl, I still have a mold for it.

That's me with the Prettners... Klagenfurt, 1981