ozzie454

BME =PAU

wahoo

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Please refer to posts # 9 and 10paying close attention to 10.

Ken-h

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Yeah I did, be he has no credibility. I say prove it, and then pound sand!

Couch-pilot

Skimmed through this thread quickly - interesting stuff.

For what it's worth, I'm usually a lurker here - hence the low post-count. I've been in business myself, and have run/helped run businesses for others. Who knows...I may do it again (LOL)

At the end of the day - I would sell the guy the cowl. In ALL business, favours can make you (or the opportunity to make) more money. I would think you are no more liable for any legal wrongs than someone who makes just cowlings, like Fiberglass Specialties. Yes, it may cost you money to do a one-off, - the customer usually understands this, and covers it. Even if you just break even, there is coin coming in to cover expenses.

Sometimes in business you have to settle for this in the slow times. More often than not, little things like this bring in more business - maybe not millions, but if that guy pays for half a tank of gas this week (help me here, what's a glass cowl go for nowadays?) it's still half a tank of gas. And as a few have pointed out. there is sooooo much social media, that someone else will call you for something. and so-on, and so-on... and USUALLY (although not always the case, but I DID benefit from it from time to time) he has a buddy that has DEEP pockets!

I learned one important rule from watching other people I dealt with/competed with, and coined "Ed's Rule".

"Help a guy out, and he'll tell a few people. Slam a door in his face, or screw him over, and he'll tell EVERYBODY."

China has made it hard to produce anything over here and make decent money - we've all seen this in our hobby. In this economy, no one can afford to slam doors...

wahoo

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Ok fine, now answer this simple basic question...

If you (Ken-h) picked up a old BME Pitts ARF from a garage sale thats missing something, could you obtain that something from the company that took over the product line ??

ozzie454

China has made it hard to produce anything over here and make decent money - we've all seen this in our hobby. In this economy, no one can afford to slam doors...

Ken-h

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Just cause the guy didn't get helped does not mean he got screwed over. Pau never did anything to the guy. Oh wait, maybe he's entitled. Dang just figured out what a waste of time this is.

Couch-pilot

Didn't necessarily imply screwing over here, Ken. That's just my own rule. I learned ( a few times the hard way - LOL) that everyone's ethics end at a certain number of zeros.

Business isn't what it used to be in this hobby....

Ken-h

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Yes, some parts are still avalible.

I do have one in the garage, and I have two cowls. I'll sell one for $150 plus shipping if someone needs it.

Flyfalcons

That has never been in question, if you've been paying attention you'd know that. The OP has an ISC Pitts, and that's what he told Herve. Repeat after me, please. "ISC does not equal BME or PAU." Thank you.

(repeat it one or two more times for your own measure.)

Ken-h

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I understand, it just gets me when people don't like what they hear and try to force the issue.

No dog on what you said, just clearing up the who is getting screwed over part.

wahoo

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From what I've gathered the OP might be mistaken.... He has an ARF

ISC made ARCs ...BME made ARF's

repeat after me BME= ARF........ ISC = ARC

Flyfalcons

Not Herve's problem to figure out. Perhaps if the OP had figured that out and not cussed out Herve, he could have had better luck? Neither you nor the OP have shown anything to prove he actually does have a BME plane. You're just throwing something out there hoping it sticks, well after the fact that the OP behaved like an a-hole to Herve on the phone while emphatic that he had another company's plane.

Ken-h

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Then have him prove it! I've recovered many a plane, means almost nothing. But even if it turns out to be a BME, shame on him and his treatment to the owner. Then he can still pound sand!

ozzie454

If you would read this complete thread you see that it has been determined that Jeff has a BME Pitts
BME + PAU Thank You

Flyfalcons

No, it hasn't been. Jeff bought the plane used, already covered, so tell me, how does he know for sure that it was an ARF or ARC? If he knew for sure, then why did he tell Herve he has an ISC?

Flyfalcons

Hmmm. Now think about this. Jeff's misguided rant is based on a phone call he had with Herve, where he was emphatic that he had an ISC plane. Just think about this for a while. Perhaps if Jeff had done more research into what exactly he owns instead of throwing a childish temper tantrum both on the phone and here on RCU, he might be able to help himself out?

Ken-h

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Thinking requires effort.

wahoo

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I'd be willing to bet anything the OP did NOT call this herve guy loaded for bear...wanna bet ?

astrohog

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I don't believe that sheeple have the ability to think!

Regards,

Astro

Ken-h

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No one but the OP and the owner are privy to the call. You are just assuming, or as you like to put it, spinning their conversation which you never heard. Btw, I still have an extra cowl.

ozzie454

No, it hasn't been. Jeff bought the plane used, already covered, so tell me, how does he know for sure that it was an ARF or ARC? If he knew for sure, then why did he tell Herve he has an ISC?


The whole point of this thread is what some of you are missing, let's say for fun he has an actual PAU Pitts . Since he is not the original owner he is not entitled to buy any parts for it. You guy's don't see any problem with that? What if you bought a used Craftsman chainsaw from your neighbor and the recioil was shot you call up Sears cause you want an original part on your saw ... they ask you if you're the original customer.. you say no ... they say no parts for you Really ???

wahoo

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Show me one post where I spun anything !

As for the cowl.....
I don't have a plane that it will fit but I'll offer you 10 bucks for it.... shipped......

Ken-h

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lol...neither does the OP right now.

Flyfalcons

Where has that been stated?